More frustrations...

[nicksmission14 0]

Was out on the ice again tonight, For some reason I just can not get my left foot to cooperate with me. I like my skates laced real nice and firm, Helps me get a good feel of my edges. When I first tighten my skates both feel fine. However the left foot loosens up in the upper ankle region and I start loosing control of edges. Almost feels like the skate may be too wide for my ankles, either that or my lacing method just isn't working out and the laces are loosening up. But I would think that it would happen on both skates.

Just so everyone knows I'm skating in One90's and before that I skated in a Quest 1. Didn't have this issue in that skate.

Any input?

[nicksmission14 0]

I just wanted to add after doing some measuring..

I have VERY thin ankles compared to the average person.

The left ankle is 7.5" inches all the way around

My right ankle is about 8" inches all the way around..

[Ryan DYHA 0]

You could try waxed laces. Also, it is common for a boot to widen or become a little moe flexible as you break them in. This could be the problem.

[Fredrik 0]

Waxed laces?

[hockeymom 2]

My you DO have shallow ankles! My guess is you are also right handed; most people aren't symmetrical on both sides. The ONE90 has larger ankle pockets and is thermoformable, it should be an ideal skate to accomodate your ankles. Having said that, it does sound like there might be some sloppiness in your skate... not a good thing.

Did you wiggle around when you were standing and sitting in them when they were baked? Are they the proper width for your feet? How long have you skated in them at this point? (sorry, if you've mentioned it in another thread; I haven't retained it). I'm wondering if I might be jumping the gun with possible fixes, when you might just need a longer adjustment period.

I'd go back to your LHS and discuss the problems with them and have them check it out. It may be they'll decide it should be rebaked. Although it might be overkill, you might want to press on the outside of the skate and make sure you don't wiggle around as that creates space.

As far as tightening, many people have found they don't need to tighten as much with the ONE90's. Are you using waxed laces? Strange as it may sound, handedness can affect how you tighten your skates.

[nicksmission14 0]

Hockeymom thanks for the GREAT reply! Believe it or not I am left handed!

Here's my history with these skates.

Before I start I put wax laces in every skate I tried on

I tried them on in store and they felt the best out of all the skates I tried out of the box. I had to crank them real hard but I have just become accustomed to it. I walked around and felt good. I baked them and all was well.

I have now skated on them roughly 17 times. My right foot has felt fine through the whole ordeal. The left foot has not been good. I had problems with the left skate staying tight and a bone sticking out. I decided after about the seventh skate that I needed to reheat them. I took them back and we reheated the skates. The bone in my foot felt 1 MILLION times better. However I still can't keep that left skate tight. It feels like I have room around my left ankle, Because I can physically wiggle it and I start pronating my ankle and I loose edge control it really kills my skating.

I'm pretty discouraged, Thanks for all the help guys!

[DamnLocust 0]

maybe a spot heating with a heat gun can help, as well as squeezing the boot a bit around your ankle as hockeymom suggests. If you're a regular at your LHS they should be happy to help you out with this.

[James 0]

Did you check to see if the skates were the same size? I know that this sounds stupid, but when I purchased my One90s I went to public skate the next day. They didn't feel right when I was skating with them. I thought "oh it must be the new longer steel. When I got home I observed them. One skate was a 10.5 and the other was an 8.5. I took them back and I got them in the right size. After I got the new ones it felt fine and so far i have skated for at least 3 months and they are great. I will probably stay inthese for a while.

[hockeymom 2]

Nicksmission... were you the guy with the ankle bones sticking waaaay out who postd pics a while back? (darn the temporary glitches on MSH that I can't backtrack without difficulty).

So, you pronate. Hmm... can you guess what is coming next? LOL, are you using superfeet?

You have weird feet (people with weird feet are the BEST people...LOL) So it is going to take some time to dial in skates for your feet. Don't get too discouraged... it'll get there.

[nicksmission14 0]

Yep they are both the same size!

I use Superfeet in the skates and they do help me. I don't think I posted pics but I did make a topic, I have bones that stick out pretty far at the bottom of my feet and they feel better after the reheat.

I don't think I naturally pronate. I think it's caused because I can't get skates tight enough to support my ankle. And with no support for my ankle it has to somewhere therefore it tends to roll inwards.

Does that make sense?

[hockeymom 2]

The answer is still going to be go back to the LHS and talk with them... BUT.... Out of curiosity... how many skates since the reheat? Has the apparent sloppiness been from the next skate after the reheat... or right from day one?

[nicksmission14 0]

Right from day one of skating in the One90 I've had an issue with this but I've been trying to ignore it. I thought the Reheat might help it but it doesn't seem to be :(

[hockeymom 2]

Ah darn... no wonder you are discouraged. I'm still wondering if they are the right width for you. No real reason, just an obvious thing to consider. Did you mention the problem when you went back in to your LHS last time?

[nicksmission14 0]

I mentioned it briefly, They were pretty busy so they just reheated my skates and told me to see how that goes. But I'm back to square one again and I guess it will be another trip to my LHS.

[number21 3]

can the One90's use the CCM fit machine?

if so did they do that at your LHS after baking them? It may help the skate form to your foot better. (but this is just a guess because i have no experience with these skates - hope they work out for you soon!)

[nicksmission14 0]

Nope they didn't use the CCM FIT machine.. I know they had one a while back I don't think I ever saw them actually use it.

[gman 0]

Fortunately I have fat feet and fat ankles so I have never had to deal with this. I have never tired them, but I have seen ankle padding slip-on things that are supposed to help with lace bite. From the description of them, they are somewhat thick and might help take up some room in your skate. It would really stink to have awesome new skates and still have to monkey around with filling up space, but maybe it would be an option. When I used to downhill ski we had gel filled, scoccer shin guard style, things that we used to help protect our shins. This was back in the 1970's and 80's so maybe things have changed. But they certainly affected how we buckled our boots.

[nicksmission14 0]

At this point I'm leaning towards a pair of custom skates. I think for me it's going to end up being the best option. I've already spent so much $ at this point I just want to get it done right.

[nicksmission14 0]

Well I got home early today from work and started messing around with my skates again.

I have come to the conclusion that ankles are just too big for my feet.

If I push in on the sides of the skate as far as they will go the ankle is still too wide for my ankle and leaves room.

In the One90 I wear a 5.5 and in most other skates I wear 6. So I can't even get a One90 in a C Width to try them out because they don't make them.

So I guess this comes down to.... What higher end skates have Narrow ankles?

[Hockeydog 8]

As far as tightening, many people have found they don't need to tighten as much with the ONE90's. Are you using waxed laces? Strange as it may sound, handedness can affect how you tighten your skates.

I have found that to be the truth with my One90's as well Hockeymom. When I first got them I cranked down on the laces, and even did so with waxed laces. Now there are only two eyelets that I give a moderate tug on and no waxed laces. I found more feel for the blades that way than when I cranked the laces.

I think that is the ideal fit someone would like to get. The One90 may not be your ideal skate Nickmission14.

The One90's do come in a C width, but I think only in Pro models. If you are near a pro hockey team you may try and see about some Pro returns to try out. Pro's can not only get a C width, but also custom widths in the ankle and as small as 1/4 sizes on length. Maybe a C/aa in your length. C width with a aa size heel, pretty narrow. Experts jump in if I'm off base on any of this.

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

C width is available for non-custom retail orders.

[Fredrik 0]

I think he means that the C-widths are not available in JR sizes, as he was fitted for a size 5.5

[hockeymom 2]

I think he means that the C-width are not available in JR sizes, as he was fitted for a size 5.5

Good catch Fredrik!! ... C-widths start at size 6

[DarkStar50 680]

Correct, no C width available in Jr size retail ONE90 skates.

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

Sorry - my fault - did not read the entire thread.