bpmd210 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 I had a kid on my team called the other day for elbowing a kid in the process of following through after a shot. The shot scored, but the goal was disallowed and the penalty assessed. I argued that the goal should stand, and the penalty still assessed. This was a delayed penalty in my mind. The infraction occurred after we no longer had possession, so the whistle had not yet blown. If a defenseman puts the puck in his own net on a delayed penalty, the goal stands, and the penalty is assessed. Am I correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 No you aren't Am I correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallin2199 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 A team with a delayed penalty can never score a goal under there own power...so no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bpmd210 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 No you aren'tReally? Oopsie. Am I wrong in the thinking about the delayed penalty? The play was dead as soon as the infraction occurred even though we didn't have the puck?A team with a delayed penalty can never score a goal under there own power...so noDang it. Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fire0nIce228 1 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 However if there is a delayed penalty and the team pulls goalie for the extra attacker and then they are passing in the umbrella and whif and it slides all the way down the ice into their empty net, then it would be a goal for the other team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D aka speck 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 However if there is a delayed penalty and the team pulls goalie for the extra attacker and then they are passing in the umbrella and whif and it slides all the way down the ice into their empty net, then it would be a goal for the other team. Bad odds at ever seeing that happen so I'll ask. Would the penalty still stand? Play would stop due to a goal rather than a penalty. If the other team scores, it waives the delayed penalty off but, what if they score it on themselves?EDIT: spelling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCott 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 why is it even a penalty, it sounds obviously unintentional Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pisani34 10 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 after reading the first part, i wouldve thought you would be investigating the case more of the "accidental" elbow on the follow through Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lufria 1 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 The penalty still stands! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 How do you elbow someone on a shot follow through? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D aka speck 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 The penalty still stands! Nice find. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bpmd210 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 How do you elbow someone on a shot follow through?That's a super question. None of us saw a penalty, and we argued that. When it was obvious that was going nowhere, I switched to at least trying to get the goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kosydar 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 why is it even a penalty, it sounds obviously unintentionalDoesn't matter, look at high sticking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 why is it even a penalty, it sounds obviously unintentionalDoesn't matter, look at high sticking.Wrong. If your stick clips someone in the follow through of a shot then it is not a penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 why is it even a penalty, it sounds obviously unintentionalDoesn't matter, look at high sticking.Wrong. If your stick clips someone in the follow through of a shot then it is not a penalty. Actually it is. USA Hockey removed that exception to the high sticking rule several years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spreedizzle 1 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 USA Hockey rules mandate that a player must have control over his stick at all times. Follow through on any type of shot, pass, etc etc and you clip a player up high.....it is considered a high sticking penalty and can be either a minor, double minor, or major depending on the severity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfpack_1986 154 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 The penalty still stands!yeah, i wanted to strangle nic after that play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 why is it even a penalty, it sounds obviously unintentionalDoesn't matter, look at high sticking.Wrong. If your stick clips someone in the follow through of a shot then it is not a penalty. Actually it is. USA Hockey removed that exception to the high sticking rule several years ago.No foolin'? Ah well, good thing I haven't reffed USA hockey ruled games in 4-5 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw 1 Report post Posted November 20, 2007 The penalty still stands!yeah, i wanted to strangle nic after that play.LOL. I've seen another one where the wing passes back to the point on a delayed penalty and the defense misses the pass and it goes all the way down & in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted November 21, 2007 I've seen better resolution using a flip book of crayon drawings by a 4 year old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KBO25 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2007 Jozef Stumple w/Bruins in the early 90's vs the Red Wings. Delayed penalty literally seconds into the 2nd period, pass to the point was missed, all the way into the vacated net. I think the fact that it was at the start of the period and the ice was clean helped it along... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
