Where would you find a boot with no holder or chassis?

[Vishi05 0]

Do companies sell just the boot alone?

[interpathway 9]

If you order custom you can request that the boot come with no holder attached. IIRC you can have it drilled for holes too, if you so desire.

[GrafPro55 0]

We do at Graf.

[interpathway 9]

Custom only or stock as well?

[GrafPro55 0]

If all you need is a stock skate, with no blade, just tell your Graf dealer that's what you need. They can arrange it with us.

[vinceyuen 0]

does it cost more money to do this?

[Chadd 916]

If all you need is a stock skate, with no blade, just tell your Graf dealer that's what you need. They can arrange it with us.

We were told "no" when we asked.

[interpathway 9]

does it cost more money to do this?

Should cost the same as a boot with the holder. So technically, yes it is more (factoring in the new holder you will buy and mount).

[GrafPro55 0]

If all you need is a stock skate, with no blade, just tell your Graf dealer that's what you need. They can arrange it with us.

We were told "no" when we asked.

I guess I wasn't running the Pro Department when you asked. It would go through as a "custom", since the stock skates have holders installed. There would be an upcharge for building a "one-off" skate.

[Jordan 13]

It would go through as a "custom", since the stock skates have holders installed. There would be an upcharge for building a "one-off" skate.

With no credit for ommitting the holder??

Sounds like a better/cheaper idea just to buy a stock skate and have the holder changed out.

[GrafPro55 0]

It would go through as a "custom", since the stock skates have holders installed. There would be an upcharge for building a "one-off" skate.

With no credit for ommitting the holder??

Sounds like a better/cheaper idea just to buy a stock skate and have the holder changed out.

It would be cheaper to just unbolt your holders, and drill new holes for the inline chassis, but some people are particular about how many holes are in the bottom of their boot. So if you don't mind spending a little extra to have a "virgin" outsole, we will accomodate you.

[interpathway 9]

Especially with the properties of carbon soles, too many holes can do serious damage. Especially considering that your new holder might require you to drill a hole where half a hole is already overlapping (if that makes sense at all).

[SirJW 207]

Especially with the properties of carbon soles, too many holes can do serious damage. Especially considering that your new holder might require you to drill a hole where half a hole is already overlapping (if that makes sense at all).

GrafPro, is this true?

[GrafPro55 0]

Especially with the properties of carbon soles, too many holes can do serious damage. Especially considering that your new holder might require you to drill a hole where half a hole is already overlapping (if that makes sense at all).

GrafPro, is this true?

Everyone has different tolerances for precision. I can't speak for each individual skate tech.

If 1=outsole with 30 overlapping, slotted holes in it and 10=virgin insole and outsole, it's up to you where to draw the line.

It also depends if you are using RMS or Rivets.

[furlanitalia 1]

My question is, what for?

I mean, how hard is it to have a holder removed?

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

My question is, what for?

I mean, how hard is it to have a holder removed?

Installing a different holder

Shifting alignment

Installing an inline chassis

[furlanitalia 1]

Yah, but if you have to take it in do this, is it that much hassle to purchase the skate with the holder, then re sell the holder once you remove it? To me it seems like more hassle to find a boot without a holder.

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

My answer to you was that for those who need those things I mentioned would prefer a virgin outsole.

[furlanitalia 1]

Ahh, I was assuming boots would come pre drilled. I gotcha now