Torspo Surge 221

[canadian_man_44 0]

I ordered the Torspo Surge 221 skates today. Clear blade holders though. None of the chrome ones left....oh well. Anyway, I got them for $120 Canadian, including shipping. Very good price since most places I've seen them are selling them for between $475 and $600 CDN, plus shipping. I can hardly wait to get them and play some forward without my goalie skates. I'm getting a little tired of doing a zamboni impression when I go to take a tight turn and hit the cowling on the ice. :lol:

Here's what I have for pictures. Just the regular pictures that everyone who sells them has.

[fatwabbit 93]

I've got those as well, converted to an inline skate with A7 sprungs. They are pretty solid, and have a good heel lock. A little on the heavy side, but once you add wheels and chassis, everything seems heavy.

[canadian_man_44 0]

I'm strictly ice for right now....mostly in nets but I needed some good skates for the 1-2 times a week I play forward. Hopefully these ones do the trick as I don't think I can convince my wife to let me get anymore hockey gear anytime soon.

[Globalz 1]

would you mine doing a review of these skates after you've skated in them a couple times? im always interested in other brands.

[canadian_man_44 0]

I'll definitely do a review....maybe starting with the initial reaction then after I've used them a few times and after I've used them a lot.

I'll also let you know how the customer service was from the seller as he is a guy that gets a lot of Torspo skates to sell on E-bay. Apparently right now he also has a pair of size 9. If anyone is interested, send me a PM and I'll give you his name. They're not currently listed, but, neither were mine. I emailed him and he let me know what he still had, then listed them so I could do the buy it now option as soon as I had the money in my Paypal account. So far he's been a great guy to deal with.

[Globalz 1]

hope there great skates for the price im in the market as well

[epstud74 24]

They're a stiff but very comfortable skate.

[canadian_man_44 0]

How are they for break in time? I assume it's pretty quick if you get them heat molded. Has anyone tried just wearing them without heat molding?

[skatedoctor 0]

I've had a pair or two into they shop here in the UK to be sharpened, they seem to be a solid boot, but it just lacks 'that something' from them.

You got a ton of steel on them to the sharpeners who go toe to heel all the time have plenty to work on. But the holder to me seems that it could break at any time (doesnt feel 'solid' unlike some holders).

There is a shop who are trying to market these as better than bauer xxxx's, i wouldnt like to make the comparison. But they seem to be good for a 'recreational player' skate or a session skater, not sure they could cope with a semi or pro team, but thats just my thoughts!

[fatwabbit 93]

First impression was that I bought a size too small, with my toes cramped against the toe cap... however one you bake them, they suck in your feet and the heel lock is great. I baked mine at home, and they are still stiff after about 1 year of pretty hard hockey. I'm pretty hard on my skates even though I dont play very often... after baking, it took about 2 hockey dropins before they felt perfect, but that was mainly due to me changing the insoles a couple of times .

[canadian_man_44 0]

skatedoctor. No chance of me making a semi pro or pro team at my age so hopefully these will do the job for me. They definitely should be a pretty large step up from the Bauer Rapide that I pretty much gave away after taking a wrist shot in the ankle area. :D

fatwabbit. How exactly do you go about baking them at home? How is the boot and blade holder holding up after playing for a year?

[stuie7 6]

skatedoctor. No chance of me making a semi pro or pro team at my age so hopefully these will do the job for me.

Theres a big difference from what we in the UK would see as semi-pro and what you guys do in a real hockey country..

Just out of interest Mr. Skatedoctor, that wouldn't happen to be your North East rival would it?

[fatwabbit 93]

Cant really say about the blade holder, as I converted these to inline. Ive only heard of one person having the holder crack, which was why i offered my holders up if you were interested.

The boot itself is still very stiff, hasnt really lost any stiffness since I had them baked. I can barely squeeze the boots with two hands unless i really tried, and it fits very snug. If you read my previous posts, you'll know that I've gone thru about 2 years plus of trying out different types of skates/fit and different insoles as well. You might consider changing the stock insoles to superfeet, shockdoctors are ok but take up more volume. The boots are still in good condition with very minor scuffs on the toe caps even after a year. the rest of the boots look mint. Just wanted to add that I normally block about 2 shots/game, sometimes sliding across sportcourt to block the shot.

You can do a search on MSH for baking skates at home, but here's a quick summary (*disclaimer that you try this at your own risk):

- preheat the oven (needs to be a convection oven) to about 170deg F

- place damp cloth on oven tray, then put the skate on the cloth. I normally have a larger cloth that would wrap around the boot itself, but leaving the opening of the boot incovered

- once the oven is heated up, SWITCH IT OFF

- place the skate into the oven

- leave for about 7 minutes

- take the skate out and lace up as tightly as possible

- you might want to use some straps to strap the outside of the boot

- let it cool while you are watching tv or something, you dont want to move too much in your boots, preferably keeping your knees in a bend 90deg position

- have a beer and chips that you had prepared beforehand handy.... wave the wife away when she complains about you messing up the couch and oven, better still have her friends take her out without your credit card.

- once they are cooled, take them off, making sure you stick the tongue back into the opening fully

- wait about 24 hours before skating in them

The skates tend to wrap around your foot pretty well, and stick to its shape. Dont crank up and tie them up really tight, otherwise you will cut the circulation to your foot and your foot will fall asleep. I made this mistake the first few times, but now I just tighten them up a little, and it works fine without any foot slop.

Best of luck with them... i think they are a pretty good skate for the price, especially if you are just using it for rec or beer league.

[canadian_man_44 0]

So, from what I know of convection ovens, the difference between them and a regular oven is the convection has a fan that blows the heat around to cook things faster. Once you shut the oven off the fan would shut off as well. Based on this, would it work just as well to heat a regular oven to 170 deg F then shut it off and go through the same process of heating for 7 minutes wrapped in a damp cloth(except for the opening)?

[canadian_man_44 0]

Ok, so I got the tracking number yesterday. At that point they were showing as scanned into Mississauga, ON at 6:28am of the 14th. This morning they're showing as having been scanned at Niagara Falls, ON at 1:11pm yesterday. They're definitely closer by now, but the crappy tracker for Canada post can take up to 24 hours for the update to show up. I had them sent regular parcel so it takes 3-9 days. In past experience I've noticed that it's generally 3-4 business days, which means I should get them either tomorrow or Monday. Hopefully it's tomorrow so I can get them baked and ready to play on Tuesday. If I don't get them until Monday, I'll try them out Tuesday night and get them baked after that.

[althoma1 574]

As long as you ordered the right size I think you'll be happy with these skates after you have them properly baked. I use them for roller and they're stiff, comfortable and responsive....VERY similar to the KOR Shift 1's I use for ice. I can't comment on the holder or steel as I've never used them, but I have no complaints about the boot itself. You bought yourself a high end skate for a bargain basement price so as long as you end up with the right size (sizing them without trying them on is the hardest part) then you did very well.

[canadian_man_44 0]

The guy I bought them from uses the same skate and wears the same size shoe as I do. He told me what size to get so I should be alright there. I'll for sure get them baked so I'm sure they'll be good.

[fatwabbit 93]

You might want to check out a few thread first:

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index...667&hl=bake

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index...849&hl=bake

http://www.hockeyx.com/hockey/dept.asp?s_i...amp;dept_id=118

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index...372&hl=bake

http://web.archive.org/web/20061110145404/...eat_molding.htm

As I mentioned before, baking the skates at home is at your own risk... I've since gone and started using my wife's oven thermometer to give a better indication on the internal temp of the oven. Some ovens arent calibrated properly, so you could be over/under the designated temp by a lot!

[canadian_man_44 0]

Thanks for the links. I'll definitely check those out.

I've got the thermometer home so if I go the "do it yourself" route, I'll be sure to get the temperature right. Thanks for the info again.

[canadian_man_44 0]

I got the skates yesterday and spent about three hours with them on my feet while watching some hockey. They are definitely a lot stiffer then any skate I've used before due to the kevlar/carbon base. The foam on the inside is stiff as well(hasn't been baked yet) but is still quite comfortable....comfortable enough that I wouldn't even think of having them baked except the tongue is just a little too stiff. I might go the hair blower route with the tongue and leave the rest of the skate alone since it does fit my foot perfectly now. I'll give a review on the skates as soon as I've gotten some miles on them. About the only thing I can give an honest review on right now is the looks and on that I'd go with a 10/10. Definitely a sweet looking skate with the kevlar/carbon showing on the sides and bottom and the clear blade holders.

[calishark28 0]

Did you get the same size as your regular shoe size or did you go down?

[canadian_man_44 0]

It was recommended by the guy I bought them from to go 1/2 size below my shoe size on this model. Apparently the Surge series are 1/2 size below while the Sweet series go with your shoe size. From trying them on, he's dead on on the sizing for this model. When I first put them on they seemed to be a little short, but after having them on for awhile, my foot settled back to where it should be and they're perfect for the sizing now.

[fatwabbit 93]

Yea, the first time you put them on, your toes would feel like they are up against the toe cap. Once you get them moulded or settled in, your foot gets locked in and moves back about 1/4 inch.

As I mentioned, I had mine baked at home and they suck my foot into the heel lock.

[canadian_man_44 0]

I did a little heating with the hair dryer in the ankle area and it did a pretty good job. I'll do the tongue tonight while watching the hockey game.

[skatedoctor 0]

skatedoctor. No chance of me making a semi pro or pro team at my age so hopefully these will do the job for me.

Theres a big difference from what we in the UK would see as semi-pro and what you guys do in a real hockey country..

Just out of interest Mr. Skatedoctor, that wouldn't happen to be your North East rival would it?

There is no rivals anywhere. I give credit where credit is due, and they do offer a good choice which has always been lacked in the north east and anywhere for that matter. I pride myself on sticking to my original concept. The end of the day we are all providing a service to customers and its upto the customers where they would like to go.

Im commenting on the product in which i've seen. I just feel the way there are trying to marketed in comparson to a bauer skate is a little over the top.

The holder doesnt feel right, like a carbon fibre type material which seems a hard shot could snap them, so im not getting at them, just the product!