Blade Depth?

[hukturn 0]

Having a problem with a skate and looking for direction. The outside edge of my left blade "slides out". When I am in a steep left turn and stepping over with right, the skate slides out. This does not occur with either inside edge nor the outside of the right. Does not seem to matter if the ice is hard or soft. I have not tried a deeper cut but sharpening has seemed to have no effect anyway. The "feel" seems to be mid to rear portions of the blade sliding. This problem has been present for the past 6 months.

Admittedly, this is my first pair of hockey skates (stock RBK 3K) and I only previously owned speed skates 20 years ago. But, in keeping up with my son, I needed to have hockey skates. I am also a heavy skater, at about 240lbs. Any ideas?

-MMC

[Larry54 243]

Without seeing you skate, I can only guess that you're not leaning your skate enough for the edge to bite, or you're leaning too much and the boot is touching the ice. Or your sharpening is not level so it bites too much on one edge and not enough on the other. If your problem is the first, a deeper hollow might help but you might be better in the long run if you correct your technique.

[krwwc6 0]

I'd say whoever sharpened your skates may not have your blade level. Another possibility is that your blade is bent.

[freekincage77 0]

As a sharpener I'd say unlikely

Only a complete retard can do that.

Or canadian tire:P

Generally I'll never give any a sharpening >2 mm off, and usually sharpeners can pick out curves in the blade.

maybe tighten your skates more? check all rivets so on.

[krwwc6 0]

As a sharpener I'd say it's very possible.

Depending on where he got them sharpened it's very likely that he got a poor sharpening. I've seen skates come in that were horrible when it comes being level. Many sharpeners in my area don't want to spend money to get a level, and go by their eye. . . which is usually very, very off.

[freekincage77 0]

I've skated with my skates 4mm off and not noticed a difference

back in the day they didnt have edge checkers or proper holders to line them up and they didnt have problems

in general the only sharpenings i see that arent skateable are from canadian tire machines or some out of the box .

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

freekincage - you're not making a very good first impression.

[freekincage77 0]

How so?

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

You start out by trying to sell skates in the Ice Hockey forum, then when they tell you that you must be a Members+ to see the Gear Exchange, you decide to put up 13 other posts in less than an hour.

[freekincage77 0]

I admit that was my bad on not reading policies.

To be completely honest with you, as we both live hockey I enjoy talking hockey, and attempting to help with my experience. In this particular case I don't see how it is a bad impression, when my statement was valid, especially when in the question it says hes had the problem for 6 months, and had them sharpened, all I am trying to do is speak from experience, and the only thing that could be wrong here is either hollow, how he ties his skates, or possibly just his technique.

Im not meaning to argue but I just saw this website and noticed a few posts that answered some of mine,and on a monday night I have nothing better to do.

Also TBH I have no idea how someone becomes a member +, I didn't think it was done by post counts.

Sorry for the confusion.

[Chadd 916]

You start out by trying to sell skates in the Ice Hockey forum, then when they tell you that you must be a Members+ to see the Gear Exchange, you decide to put up 13 other posts in less than an hour.

The quality of post doesn't really help either. Some people are just destined to never reach M+.

I'd say whoever sharpened your skates may not have your blade level. Another possibility is that your blade is bent.

That is also my first inclination. I wouldn't be surprised if the holder was bent and the steel wasn't perfectly straight coming out of the plastic.

[jimmy 194]

Switch your left blade to the right skate. If the symptoms shifted to the other skate, something is wrong with the blade. If they stayed on the left skate, the holder is prob bent. Steel takes whatever shape the holder is in.

[cptjeff 0]

I would be inclined to think bad sharpening, but since this same issue has been consistent across multiple sharpenings I would have to go with a bent blade or holder. If it was an issue with the skates being level during sharpening, the problem probably wouldn't manifest itself in the exact same way several times.

[Chadd 916]

I would be inclined to think bad sharpening, but since this same issue has been consistent across multiple sharpenings I would have to go with a bent blade or holder. If it was an issue with the skates being level during sharpening, the problem probably wouldn't manifest itself in the exact same way several times.

If the blade is off and the guy sharpening doesn't check, it would never get fixed.

[freekincage77 0]

A bend could be possible, especially in bigger guys including myself it does happen. However that's usually more from some impact or after skating on the skates for a while.So this could be dependant on usage. Seeing as these are his first pair in 20+ years of newer hockey skates, it could be the technique.(If all others are ruled out) I know that I can get a better "grip" crossing right over left, then crossing left over right, it's human nature.

Also Over 6 months the sharpening setting the guy did it on would change, usually it changes every pair, also it would be the same thing on the other skate.

[Jesse_01 0]

Having a problem with a skate and looking for direction. The outside edge of my left blade "slides out". When I am in a steep left turn and stepping over with right, the skate slides out. This does not occur with either inside edge nor the outside of the right. Does not seem to matter if the ice is hard or soft. I have not tried a deeper cut but sharpening has seemed to have no effect anyway. The "feel" seems to be mid to rear portions of the blade sliding. This problem has been present for the past 6 months.

Admittedly, this is my first pair of hockey skates (stock RBK 3K) and I only previously owned speed skates 20 years ago. But, in keeping up with my son, I needed to have hockey skates. I am also a heavy skater, at about 240lbs. Any ideas?

-MMC

I had the same problem. It went away when I got them profiled and sharpened by someone that knew what they were doing. The left skate was only sharpened in such a way that it was only touching towards front and the right skate was so it was front and back. Also it was about half touch than what should be. Take both skates and put them on a flat surface. Than take a look to what part is touching and how much. I would bet your right skate has more touching than the left.

Also a good shop will check to see if your blade and boot line up. My 727 graf's had to get shimmed right from the factory. It cost me $30 to get them sharpened and profiled here.

[cptjeff 0]

I would be inclined to think bad sharpening, but since this same issue has been consistent across multiple sharpenings I would have to go with a bent blade or holder. If it was an issue with the skates being level during sharpening, the problem probably wouldn't manifest itself in the exact same way several times.

If the blade is off and the guy sharpening doesn't check, it would never get fixed.

But presumably he would sharpen other skates in between the different sharpenings for the OP, with the different holder adjustments that go with it. In order for that to be the case, the sharpener would have to have the holder on the exact same settings as he did when he did the OP's skates the first time. Unless they never touch the adjustment, that's quite improbable.

[Chadd 916]

I would be inclined to think bad sharpening, but since this same issue has been consistent across multiple sharpenings I would have to go with a bent blade or holder. If it was an issue with the skates being level during sharpening, the problem probably wouldn't manifest itself in the exact same way several times.

If the blade is off and the guy sharpening doesn't check, it would never get fixed.

But presumably he would sharpen other skates in between the different sharpenings for the OP, with the different holder adjustments that go with it. In order for that to be the case, the sharpener would have to have the holder on the exact same settings as he did when he did the OP's skates the first time. Unless they never touch the adjustment, that's quite improbable.

Put the skate on the jig, touch it up and align so the reference mark is even top to bottom and sharpen. Follow those steps and an off center sharpening will continue to be off center every time. The only way to avoid that is to either check the blade before sharpening or just slap it in and grind away. Only one of those will give you good results time after time.

[cptjeff 0]

Ah, good point. If you went just by the witness marks I could see how that could happen rather easily.

The other possibility that comes to mind is that the guy correctly dialed in the holder for one skate, and didn't bother checking it with the second skate, assuming the steel would be the same. If he's habitual about what skate he does first, the mistake would be repeated.

[JR Boucicaut 3810]

Yeah, it sharpens differently from one skate to the next.