krimsanavenger 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 I recently had Tuuk LS2 holders installed on my Graf Ultra G35's. If you have Graf G series skates with Tuuk holders does yours look anything like this? (check pics). Mine look like I installed them myself in my basement. For anyone with Graf skates you should be able to see what the tech did. He lined up the LS2 holder with original holes from the cobra holder and drilled the Graf bolts right through my brand new LS2's.(some of the LS2 holes lined up) Then placed rivets in some of the LS2 holes. It looks like shit. My question is can this be done properly on Graf skates by someone who knows what they are doing? I want 4 copper rivets and 10 standard rivets placed in the pre drilled holes on the LS2. Will there be a problem putting a rivet thru the original holes in the boot since they were made to accept a threaded bolt? Respond with a pic if you got it. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shifter 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 Wtf is that? Biggest hack job i've seen lol in awhile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raganblink 82 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 someone doesn't know wtf they are doing.. go back and get ur money back for labor or something. That's horrible. Then take it somewhere else and have them properly do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakedajewler 1 Report post Posted January 17, 2010 that might be the worst job i've ever seen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epstud74 24 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Thats kind of odd looking, but I suppose it still works?Here are mine. These were done at General Sports in Edina, MN this fall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krimsanavenger 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Wtf is that? Biggest hack job i've seen lol in awhileI know it is so bad its funny. i really would be laughing harder if they were not my 600 dollar skates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krimsanavenger 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 Thats kind of odd looking, but I suppose it still works?Here are mine. These were done at General Sports in Edina, MN this fall.These look really good. Do you think the tech could have put rivets in those holes instead of the 4 screws on yours? Because i'm trying to get mine done using all rivets including 4 copper rivets. Thanks for the response and pictures. Beautiful skates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epstud74 24 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 I've only got 2 screws and the rest are rivets in each skate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krimsanavenger 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 I've only got 2 screws and the rest are rivets in each skateI see now, it kind of looked like screws in the front 2 holes too. How do you like the LS2's on the Grafs? I used the Cobra holder for a year, but wanted to try something different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epstud74 24 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 I like the LS2s..I've actually had them profiled/contoured to be a bit more aggressive like the Cobras after a few months of tinkering Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakedajewler 1 Report post Posted January 18, 2010 I am having LS2's put on my graf's right now, I pray this doesn't happen to mine, haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceBuckeye88 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 I bought a pair of Ultra G5s a month ago. I love the boot and the Cobra 5000 holder. I would give it a chance before spending a bunch of money to change it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatwabbit 93 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 I dont know why they would drill thru the holder... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotty 7 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 when i shopped my cobra->tuuk conversion around, a few shops said they'd rather drill through the holder into the existing holes on the boot than drill new holes into the boot using the holder's standard rivet pattern.although i thought it was kind of hinky, i was considering it (thinking "hey, i can keep the quick change method") until a few members here told me to stay away from that concept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krimsanavenger 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 I bought a pair of Ultra G5s a month ago. I love the boot and the Cobra 5000 holder. I would give it a chance before spending a bunch of money to change it out.Actually I used the cobra 5000 for about a year before deciding on the change. Not bad, but I wanted to give something else a try.when i shopped my cobra->tuuk conversion around, a few shops said they'd rather drill through the holder into the existing holes on the boot than drill new holes into the boot using the holder's standard rivet pattern.although i thought it was kind of hinky, i was considering it (thinking "hey, i can keep the quick change method") until a few members here told me to stay away from that concept.Yeah, i am getting them redone by someone who knows what they are doing, and I am going with all rivets. It seems more secure with 14 rivets, considering the LS2 was designed to be attached with rivets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acqant 0 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 I had mine done in CT. at WESCO.They did all rivets with copper in the back drilling through the boot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirJW 207 Report post Posted January 21, 2010 What are the advantages of cooper rivets over the black rivets (why do Tuuks come w/ them only on the back holes?) and what advantages do rivets have over the Cobra screws? What size Tuuk LS2 and Custom+ (are they sized differently?) fit on a size 6 Graf Supra 703? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krimsanavenger 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 What are the advantages of cooper rivets over the black rivets (why do Tuuks come w/ them only on the back holes?) and what advantages do rivets have over the Cobra screws? What size Tuuk LS2 and Custom+ (are they sized differently?) fit on a size 6 Graf Supra 703?Copper rivets are stronger than the standard black rivet. They only put a few on (sometimes you will see four) for additional strength, since the black ones are quite durable. Cobra screws are great for the cobra holder. But for the LS2 and custom+, they were manufactured to be attached with rivets and the holes on the holder might not align with the holes on the boot, (like mine in the photos) and it ends up looking bush league with the screws. LS2 and custom+ are sized the same. A 254mm would fit your 703's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aal 3 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 I had some Graf G5's, and a shop put LS 2 holders on them for me using the same method they did with yours. I didn't ask ahead of time. I recall asking around after the fact with some other people, and maybe even posted a question here (I don't remember), and was told it was common and ok to drill new holes in the holders. At any rate, I didn't think the new holders really worked out like I had expected. I didn't like the forward pitch of the Cobra holders, but the LS 2's had way too much of a rear pitch; much more than they do when mounted on the Bauer skates I've had. The Graf's didn't fit that well anyway, and I got another model of Grafs and have just kept the Cobra holders. Still a little forward pitched for me, but I'm living with it. I had Cobra's replased with Tuuk holder on another pair of Grafs years ago, and didn't like the way they came out either. I read about everyone having good results with changing out the holders, but it hasn't worked for me. If I really had confidence in any local shops, I'd think about just having the pitch changed on the Cobras. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 13 Report post Posted January 22, 2010 Still a little forward pitched for me, but I'm living with it.Why don't you get them profiled with a more neutral pitch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wetwilly17 6 Report post Posted November 16, 2010 i know i'm bringing up an old thread, but...i have some grafs on order and my first plan is to replace the holders with tuuk's. last time i did this, i was worried about the integrity of the composite outsole. the lhs drilled new holes in the outsole and several were lined up adjacent to the existing cobra holes (looked like an "8" instead of "o"). i sold the skates before using them much so i wasn't able to find out. this time, i was thinking of instructing the lhs to use the existing outsole holes and drilling through the replacement tuuk custom+ holder. my reasoning: (1) i don't care so much about the looks of the bottom of the skate and (2) if the integrity of the skate is affected by adjacent holes, i'd rather replace the holder than the boot since the boot is obviously worth morebut apparently msh doesn't like this concept. why should i not drill through the replacement holder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vek 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2010 I don't know if it helps, but I had the original cobra holders remounted due to poor Graf QC, which required new holes drilled, then ended up going to an LS2 setup, which required new holes drilled again, and I've had no problems with the integrity of the carbon sole - and I'm about 220 lbs with a skating style that pretty much resembles a bull moose being chased by a bear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wetwilly17 6 Report post Posted November 16, 2010 I don't know if it helps, but I had the original cobra holders remounted due to poor Graf QC, which required new holes drilled, then ended up going to an LS2 setup, which required new holes drilled again, and I've had no problems with the integrity of the carbon sole - and I'm about 220 lbs with a skating style that pretty much resembles a bull moose being chased by a bear.thanks. good to know.i'd appreciate anyone else's comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorldIceNYC 1 Report post Posted July 26, 2012 Never seen work like my guys over at West Side Skate and Stick here in NY...New black Tuuk LS2's on my Graf G35's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBR 11 Report post Posted July 27, 2012 I recently had Tuuk LS2 holders installed on my Graf Ultra G35's. If you have Graf G series skates with Tuuk holders does yours look anything like this? (check pics). Mine look like I installed them myself in my basement. For anyone with Graf skates you should be able to see what the tech did. He lined up the LS2 holder with original holes from the cobra holder and drilled the Graf bolts right through my brand new LS2's.(some of the LS2 holes lined up) Then placed rivets in some of the LS2 holes. It looks like shit. My question is can this be done properly on Graf skates by someone who knows what they are doing? I want 4 copper rivets and 10 standard rivets placed in the pre drilled holes on the LS2. Will there be a problem putting a rivet thru the original holes in the boot since they were made to accept a threaded bolt? Respond with a pic if you got it. ThanksHoly Frankenskate! Did you get any pork chops or legs of lamb back with that?Never seen work like my guys over at West Side Skate and Stick here in NY...Isn't there only one other shop that does skate repair on the entire island of Manhattan? Just sayin... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites