kovalchuk71 212 Report post Posted March 3, 2010 Anyone have any they would like to share? I really need to get my feet quicker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trooper 8 Report post Posted March 4, 2010 I have a really good video, but haven't watched it in years and will look for it in the next couple of days. But I'm not sure what you mean by quick feet. Are you looking for quick lateral movement and change of direction? Sean Skinner's Skating for Checking video is great for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gxc999 7 Report post Posted March 4, 2010 One of the key ideas with plyometrics is to vary up your workouts, e.g. alternative giving yourself very little time between sets with several minutes. This will work you both in terms of endurance and muscle strength, worked well for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trooper 8 Report post Posted March 5, 2010 Plyometrics are great but should be in no way, shape, or form used for conditioning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$maker 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2010 I'm not sure plyo's are what you are really looking for but if you want to increase your overall speed, strength and explosivness I would recommend a book called Men's Health Power Training. It's by a guy called Coach Dos. I don't use the workout routines but it has a laundry list of exercises and they are all illustrated nicely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trooper 8 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Sorry, but I've looked everywhere and can't find the video. I used to have notes from it but don't know where they are either. I may have some other stuff, I'll look. Here are a couple of things you need to look at when considering plyos:-plyos don't train muscles, they train the central nervous system in that they are training the CNS to fire muscle fibers within a muscle and muscles in coordination with each other in a way that maximizes the output in a given movement-volume and rest are the most important things to track. For a given experience level, you shouldn't exceed a certain number of footfalls per session. Sufficient time should be given to recover fully between sets and between sessions. These AREN'T conditioning exercises-using them as conditioning or not allowing sufficient recovery will do several things:1- reduce the effectiveness of the exercise in developing explosiveness2- increase the likelihood of injuryThis is one area that "more is not better" applies to in spades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hidious 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Like i said in another thread, i like PlyoX, but i have never tried any other material in the plyo department except my own routine, made with exercises taken individually.PlyoX is one hour of hard work and it most likely trains muscles a little too and not just the nervous system given the amount of soreness you have to endure the following days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Galt 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Here is a sample program http://www.biggerfasterstronger.com/upload...c%20Program.pdf I would add in some more explosive lateral work to make it more hockey specific. You need to build up to a program like this and I would recommend talking to an experienced trainer. To me its well worth the $100 or so you might pay for a couple of sessions. This is really part of an off ice training program not the only part. plyox in p90x is more of a conditioning program with some plyometric movements added in. If you do all of the movements in plyox the way plyometrics are inteneded to be done you would be doing way to much pounding on your body. I believe the NSCA (National Strength and Conditioning Association) recommends 120 ground strikes per session in a conditioned athlete. Anymore than this and you increase the potential for injury. You will get better results from a more traditional athletic plyo program than p90x. Dont get me wrong I think P90x has its place but not for somebody primarily interested in sports performance and injury prevention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bucky25 0 Report post Posted March 10, 2010 I believe the NSCA (National Strength and Conditioning Association) recommends 120 ground strikes per session in a conditioned athlete. Anymore than this and you increase the potential for injury. You will get better results from a more traditional athletic plyo program than p90x. Dont get me wrong I think P90x has its place but not for somebody primarily interested in sports performance and injury prevention.Interesting you should say that b/c I did the Plyo X a few times and found it far too hard on one of my knees. In the video he says this is "high impact" and "I know, I know it's out of fashion". Well there is a reason for that Tony...I still use some of the other vids, just not that one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trooper 8 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 For clarification, the NSCA recommends the following, and these are pretty consistent with other reputable sources:Footfalls per session:Beginner- 80-100 Intermediate- 100-120Advanced- 120-140Recovery during sessions:5-10 secs between reps2-3 mins between setsFrequency:1-3 sessions per week, depending on time of year48-72 hours between sessions-all of these can be tweaked depending on the intensity of the movements in each session Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
texspeleo 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2010 I found this site to have a lot of good info and workouts, and you can do them at home with a doorjamb pull-up bar. I'm sure it's a long ways from a pro level workout, but a do-able one for an average joe beer leaguer like me. I used it for a about 3 months a couple years ago, and got leaner and faster. Caveat, though...the number of emails you receive from them trying to sell you an upgraded program borders on spam.http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trooper 8 Report post Posted March 15, 2010 I found this site to have a lot of good info and workouts, and you can do them at home with a doorjamb pull-up bar. I'm sure it's a long ways from a pro level workout, but a do-able one for an average joe beer leaguer like me. I used it for a about 3 months a couple years ago, and got leaner and faster. Caveat, though...the number of emails you receive from them trying to sell you an upgraded program borders on spam.http://www.iwantsixpackabs.com/I have no idea what the workouts are like, but with a name like that, I can't imagine it has real relevance to someone concerned about performance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites