Non-Ranger fans opinion...

[mug25 2]

Just wanted to get the opinion of NON-Ranger fans on the state of the Rangers organization. It's totally clear that the majority of Rangers fans are totally fed up with Sather/Dolan and in some cases Torterella. Aside from Devils fans who love seeing the Rangers fail — what do the rest of you think?

Are us NYR fans expecting too much or is this organization a total joke?

[noodle3872 40]

Time to fire the GM and the coaching staff. Sather's past his expiry date. Spending money hand over fist on older star players isn't how to build a stable franchise that has a bright future. Wise use of money to pick up free agents is essential but Sather has been anything but wise on his FA pick-ups. And Torts acts like a dick to the media, I can only imagine what he's like to the players. His system doesn't fit the team he has on the bench. His animated behaviour on the bench doesn't look like passion, it looks like a 4 year old having a tantrum.

Some of the dead weight needs to be bought out and sent to pasture.

[jeffw 1]

When I watch the Rangers games all I can think is thank God I don't have to watch Torts flip out every game. That guy looks like he's about to have a coronary at any minute.

[mug25 2]

Time to fire the GM and the coaching staff. Sather's past his expiry date. Spending money hand over fist on older star players isn't how to build a stable franchise that has a bright future. Wise use of money to pick up free agents is essential but Sather has been anything but wise on his FA pick-ups. And Torts acts like a dick to the media, I can only imagine what he's like to the players. His system doesn't fit the team he has on the bench. His animated behaviour on the bench doesn't look like passion, it looks like a 4 year old having a tantrum.

Some of the dead weight needs to be bought out and sent to pasture.

Agree 100%

[Speedz98 15]

AS A DEVIL FAN, this is my observation.

The protest against Sather that one day in NYC was an alright idea in the sense that it got peoples attention. But the only real way to get Glen Sather fired is to stop showing up at games. Dolan wants money. stop giving him money, he'll figure out Sather is bad buisness, and will take the hint.

So protest by stop showing up.

[mug25 2]

AS A DEVIL FAN, this is my observation.

The protest against Sather that one day in NYC was an alright idea in the sense that it got peoples attention. But the only real way to get Glen Sather fired is to stop showing up at games. Dolan wants money. stop giving him money, he'll figure out Sather is bad buisness, and will take the hint.

So protest by stop showing up.

I agree 100%. The guys that organized that protest had a good idea and definitely had their hearts in the right place but I'm willing to be that all of them forked over their money and went to the game right after their protest. Way to show the Rangers management!!! Right? LOL

Seeing as I don't live in NY, I don't go to Rangers games. I refuse to watch any Rangers game that is telecast on MSG. For now I'll watch it if it's on Versus, otherwise I'll watch internet feeds (thus not giving MSG my contribution to the ratings).

It's just really sad to watch this team, and just as sad to watch such a great goalie like Henrik have to deal with mediocre, overpaid, lazy defensemen like Redden and Rosizval.

[Fire0nIce228 1]

New York needs to dump whatever they can and make a plan for a 2-3 year turnaround. They've got a premier goaltender and a few good up and comers but all the crazy free agent additions is horrible.

[mack 44]

I like what they're doing. A++++ would play again!

[mug25 2]

Season is unofficially over for the Rangers with that loss to the Bruins today...

[Steve_v3 289]

Season is unofficially over for the Rangers with that loss to the Bruins today...

They made the B's look good today. That speaks volumes for there level of play. Hell, I thought the Bruins looked lifeless this year. Yikes the Rangers looked even worse today.

[mug25 2]

They made the B's look good today. That speaks volumes for there level of play. Hell, I thought the Bruins looked lifeless this year. Yikes the Rangers looked even worse today.

That's always the case with Sather's Rangers.

[Bravada 442 0]

I don't know how any Rangers fan puts up with Tortorella. He is just such a jack ass to everyone that he comes in contact with (at least from the media perspective) I just don't get how anyone can be ok with the way that he presents himself for the organization.

I don't think his act would be okay if the Rangers were winning, but with them losing, there is no even less room for that type of behavior to be acceptable.

I think its time to blow up the current management structure, get some young hungry guys that are committed to building a winner, not buying a winner. Look at the Washington Redskins, that buying a winner thing JUST DOESN'T WORK.

[vek 0]

I don't like Tortorella insofar as he tends to overcoach. He's sort of like Keenan in which his players are only going to put up with him for so long, then tune him out. And that ego would be tough to deal with as a fan on a week-in week out basis.

Sather performed an absolute robbery in the offseason by dumping Gomez off on the Habs, and getting Gaborik has paid off pretty well - but the rest of his acquistions have either been absolute busts (Redden) or underfed and overpaid (Drury).

If I was a fan in NY, I'd like watching the team - Avery and Gaborik have entertainment and talent value, Staal is a blue chip D man, Del Zotto is coming along, and Lundqvist is probably top 3 in the league. Its a shame that there isn't enough money left over to give them a better supporting cast.

[mug25 2]

I don't know how any Rangers fan puts up with Tortorella. He is just such a jack ass to everyone that he comes in contact with (at least from the media perspective) I just don't get how anyone can be ok with the way that he presents himself for the organization.

I don't think his act would be okay if the Rangers were winning, but with them losing, there is no even less room for that type of behavior to be acceptable.

I think its time to blow up the current management structure, get some young hungry guys that are committed to building a winner, not buying a winner. Look at the Washington Redskins, that buying a winner thing JUST DOESN'T WORK.

Buying a winner works only for the New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox and Philadelphia Phillies. See the common factor?

[Bravada 442 0]

Buying a winner works only for the New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox and Philadelphia Phillies. See the common factor?

Three huge markets in a sport where there is no salary cap? Nope, don't see the factor B)

[mug25 2]

I don't like Tortorella insofar as he tends to overcoach. He's sort of like Keenan in which his players are only going to put up with him for so long, then tune him out. And that ego would be tough to deal with as a fan on a week-in week out basis.

Sather performed an absolute robbery in the offseason by dumping Gomez off on the Habs, and getting Gaborik has paid off pretty well - but the rest of his acquistions have either been absolute busts (Redden) or underfed and overpaid (Drury).

If I was a fan in NY, I'd like watching the team - Avery and Gaborik have entertainment and talent value, Staal is a blue chip D man, Del Zotto is coming along, and Lundqvist is probably top 3 in the league. Its a shame that there isn't enough money left over to give them a better supporting cast.

Jokinen, I pray he's gone next season. Lisen, Voros as well.

Girardi should've been traded when he was worth something. Now he will either walk in the off season or be re-signed. Boyle, should've resigned Blair Betts instead of this guy. Sadly, we wont be able to move Redden. We're stuck with his contract.

The best signing aside from Gaborik was Prospal, he's done very well for the Rangers.

[Speedz98 15]

Three huge markets in a sport where there is no salary cap? Nope, don't see the factor B)

the answer is baseball right?

Where as hockey doesnt rely on individual talent as much as the quality of the team as whole .

[hamstercaster 2]

I don't like Tortorella insofar as he tends to overcoach. He's sort of like Keenan in which his players are only going to put up with him for so long, then tune him out. And that ego would be tough to deal with as a fan on a week-in week out basis.

Sather performed an absolute robbery in the offseason by dumping Gomez off on the Habs, and getting Gaborik has paid off pretty well - but the rest of his acquistions have either been absolute busts (Redden) or underfed and overpaid (Drury).

If I was a fan in NY, I'd like watching the team - Avery and Gaborik have entertainment and talent value, Staal is a blue chip D man, Del Zotto is coming along, and Lundqvist is probably top 3 in the league. Its a shame that there isn't enough money left over to give them a better supporting cast.

Not quite a robbery, at least until we see the other players involved and what they will do. Higgins did what again for the Rangers before being traded?

You have to understand that Gainey got Gomez for a reason. To get Gionta which then gave us a chance to land Cammalleri. Had we been able to avoid injuries to an extent, we'd probably be fighting for 3rd place with Buffalo. Losing Markov for 4 months, Cammalleri for 2, Gionta for what, 2 months too, Bergeron for 1 month or 2 and the list goes on..

But to get back to Gomez, he is certainly overpaid but he has been playing really well as of late on a line with Gionta and Pouliot. Cammalleri is set to come back later this week so we should have our first two lines healthy and start to get ready for the playoffs.

As for the Rangers, Sather hasn't done much for the team except to send them on a downward spiral. They've got a bunch of grossly overpaid underperforming players. Redden and Drury come to mind. They've got a great goalie in Lundqvist, a good fragile winger in Gaborik but that's about it. Prospal has been a pleasant surprise for the Rangers specially at his salary.

[vek 0]

Not quite a robbery, at least until we see the other players involved and what they will do. Higgins did what again for the Rangers before being traded?

It doesn't matter what they got back - it was a salary dump, pure and simple, and Sather found a sucker. With that cap space, Sather was able to sign Gaborik. And without Gaborik, the Rangers and even a shot at the postseason parted ways months ago.

[mug25 2]

Not quite a robbery, at least until we see the other players involved and what they will do. Higgins did what again for the Rangers before being traded?

You have to understand that Gainey got Gomez for a reason. To get Gionta which then gave us a chance to land Cammalleri. Had we been able to avoid injuries to an extent, we'd probably be fighting for 3rd place with Buffalo. Losing Markov for 4 months, Cammalleri for 2, Gionta for what, 2 months too, Bergeron for 1 month or 2 and the list goes on..

But to get back to Gomez, he is certainly overpaid but he has been playing really well as of late on a line with Gionta and Pouliot. Cammalleri is set to come back later this week so we should have our first two lines healthy and start to get ready for the playoffs.

As for the Rangers, Sather hasn't done much for the team except to send them on a downward spiral. They've got a bunch of grossly overpaid underperforming players. Redden and Drury come to mind. They've got a great goalie in Lundqvist, a good fragile winger in Gaborik but that's about it. Prospal has been a pleasant surprise for the Rangers specially at his salary.

You forget Jagr. I will give Sather that. Jagr was great to watch and I consider him a great NYR Captain. Too bad we had to follow up with a guy like Drury.

Sadly, a few good moves (Jagr, Prospal, Gaborik etc.,) do not make up for all of the horrible moves (Redden, Rosizval, Malik, Kevin Weekes, Donald Brashear, NOT re-signing Blair Betts!)

Sather has gotta go!

[mack 44]

You forget Jagr. I will give Sather that. Jagr was great to watch and I consider him a great NYR Captain. Too bad we had to follow up with a guy like Drury.

You call a guy that was reluctant be their captain a great captain? Then you have the audacity to say "a guy like Drury"? You are the epitome of a Rangers fan.

[mug25 2]

You call a guy that was reluctant be their captain a great captain? Then you have the audacity to say "a guy like Drury"? You are the epitome of a Rangers fan.

Well, first off I'm not offended by your comment b/c you totally mis-interpreted my post.

Being reluctant to be the Captain and even so doing a great job at it is totally different than being the Captain and absolutely sucking at it. Jagr may not have initially wanted the "C" but he damn sure did a great job at it when he did.

Drury is a scrub who collects his paycheck and doesn't give forth 100% unless it's for Team USA. His recent interviews blaming the teams woes on "immaturity" really says a lot for his leadership abilities.

If anyone is the Captain on the Rangers, it's Henrik.

[BenderHockey 127]

Well, first off I'm not offended by your comment b/c you totally mis-interpreted my post.

Being reluctant to be the Captain and even so doing a great job at it is totally different than being the Captain and absolutely sucking at it. Jagr may not have initially wanted the "C" but he damn sure did a great job at it when he did.

Drury is a scrub who collects his paycheck and doesn't give forth 100% unless it's for Team USA. His recent interviews blaming the teams woes on "immaturity" really says a lot for his leadership abilities.

If anyone is the Captain on the Rangers, it's Henrik.

Do you wear a helmet ALL the time? Jagr wasn't a great captain. Jagr did diddly poo as captain, except wear the C. Shanny and Drury were the REAL Captains of that team, and Drury is a fantastic captain. You can't judge leaders simply by the numbers they put up.

[mug25 2]

Do you wear a helmet ALL the time? Jagr wasn't a great captain. Jagr did diddly poo as captain, except wear the C. Shanny and Drury were the REAL Captains of that team, and Drury is a fantastic captain. You can't judge leaders simply by the numbers they put up.

You strike me as borderline retarded.

You're really mature, resorting to insults. Grow up.

[BenderHockey 127]

That aside, you still ignore the basis of the argument: You can't judge leadership based on stats. If that were the case, you would just name the team's leading scorer the Captain.

Also, neither you nor I know what goes on in the locker room. Jagr was the guy who didn't want to be captain, and asked not to be picked in the shootouts. Leaders want the puck.