S15 vs S12 vs S17

[DolomaticDangles 13]

I know the S15 falls apart like no other, but what are the differences between them other than durability: weight, stiffness, etc...

[ibeck 38]

Toe Cap:Toe cap on the s17 is hard rubber and not that material crap

Tongue: I found the s17 tongue was stiffer than the s15 one; not a lot of forward flex

s17 have removable heel lifts

One thing I have been impressed with was the heel lock system on both these skates. Hope this helps, I'm sure other peole can add on other stuff.

[Hooah4 12]

S17 - improved version of S15 - rubber covered toe cap, felt tongue, clarino(?) lining.

S12 lower spec version of S17 - more fiberglas- less carbon in boot; similar to S17 w/liner, tongue, and toe cap.

I have s15's and the toe cap is slowly going to hell. Otherwise no problems. Mine have not fallen apart after a season but I'm very good to my skates and take care of them.

[DolomaticDangles 13]

Yeah I had two pairs of 1300c's a few years back and the stuff fell off on the toe cap. But it doesnt really do anything anyway so it didnt bother me.

My friend has S12s and they feel pretty light. Would I be better off with S12s or S15s performance-wise. Im going to assume S15s would be better, but the S12s were just as light (at least felt the same) as my other friend's S17s.

[calixguy18 8]

I have the S17's but haven't owned the other skates so I can't comment on that. But I will agree that the heel lock is pretty awesome and is the best out of any skates I've owned.

For some reason though, the rivets are starting to rust only after about 4 skates. They are pretty much brand new still. I air them out right after each time too. The weird thing is that the rust looks like its on the outsole rather than on the metal of the rivet itself.

[DolomaticDangles 13]

I remember that happening on my old Eastons. I think X60s have that issue too. Thanks for the input!

[stick9 897]

Same with the S12, the rivets started rusting rather quickly. Weird thing is, the exposed part of the rivet isn't whats rusting.

[duch 0]

Avoid the S15. Rough inside woven grey liner ( not intially comfortable if your a barefoot skater) , preformed stiff tongue not liked by a lot of players and very thin leathery type toe cover that comes off very quickly with hard play on the boards. Although this cover coming off doesn't effect the integrity of the skate it still makes it look very worn in a short time. Also I've heard rumors of premature breakdown of the skate at high level play.

The S12 and S17 have addressed the issues with the S15/ S11 models. New rubberized more durable toe cover. Nicer clarino type inside softer liner and a thick felt tongue which is very soft and pliable and prevents lacebite. These are also one piece composite skates that offer excellent protection and support. There are new wearguards on the side of the skate as well for the hard play and scuffing along the boards. The S17 is slightly lighter than the S12 because its made of carbon composite whereas the S12 is fibreglass composite. Personally I find the weight difference negligable because these are two of the lightest skates on the market. If you play a high level of hockey I'd go with the S17's but if your into something less competative the S12 should do you just fine. The S12's are much more affordable at less than half the price of the 17's and are a better bang for the buck in my personal opinion.