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So, they essentially make a rubbery coating that goes over tape for increased puck feel and to make tape last longer ($3 a roll is cheap anyway), as well as attack pads that aren't self-adhesive and thus require quite a bit more work to attach?

Hmm.

It sounds good but I mean there new to this buisness so im not sure either but I think I might buy this and do a review if I can get it. It's a smart idea but they might be over doing it a little bit.

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Grabbed a tube of liquid tape last time in Ontario. While I like it, once gone I'm back to wax as at $10 a tube, not worth it IMO.

I found I needed 3 coatings to work well....so thats over an hour dry time. In comparison to my use of heatgun and canning wax which takes 10 minutes it's kinda a pain. From my perspective durability is the same as the melted in wax. ....and a years supply of wax is <$4.

I gave the tube to a peer to try and he can to the same independent conclusion - good product, poor pricing.

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Grabbed a tube of liquid tape last time in Ontario. While I like it, once gone I'm back to wax as at $10 a tube, not worth it IMO.

I found I needed 3 coatings to work well....so thats over an hour dry time. In comparison to my use of heatgun and canning wax which takes 10 minutes it's kinda a pain. From my perspective durability is the same as the melted in wax. ....and a years supply of wax is <$4.

I gave the tube to a peer to try and he can to the same independent conclusion - good product, poor pricing.

Never heard of the "melted in wax" method. Interesting!

I hope and think though that you will find that the 3M Liquid-Flex lasts a long time and at $10 (approx) proves fair value. With the intricate packaging, it is not a cheap product to produce.

"I want to give a few of you a bottle of the product to try and then provide feedback on. Not sure the best way to do so."

Note: I just edited my post thanks to a suggestion below. I will try and find a way to give away a few samples though as I want those that really care abou their gear to try it out and compare.

Thoughts?

Matt

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Never heard of the "melted in wax" method. Interesting!

I hope and think though that you will find that the 3M Liquid-Flex lasts a long time and at $10 (approx) proves fair value. With the intricate packaging, it is not a cheap product to produce.

I want to give a few of you a bottle of the product to try and then provide feedback on. Not sure the best way to do so. But the first 5 people to send a comment here saying that they WANT TO TRY and they want to GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ... well .. I will send you a bottle!

I would also like to send out a few of the DECALS to be tested.

Thoughts?

Matt

Wow, a 3m rep! I've never tried any 3m hockey products before but I saw a post in this thread by '3m Hockey' and had to take a look. Unfortunately I have no interest in the liquid flex, as I too am a fan of wax, heat, repeat. It's just so much simpler than what I've read so far. I'd be more interested in a roll of tape or one of the stick-on blade pads to leave feedback on, BUT I play on painted cement too often to not have tape on the bottom of my stick. I do think it's kinda cool that this forum caught the attention of so many company reps from Base, Oggie and Sprung all the way to 3m, and probably a couple others I haven't seen yet.

Hope hockey products do well for 3m, good luck w the hockey line. I'll leave the thread alone for those who've actually used your stuff and are providing reviews.

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I've tried the 3M Liquid Tape again, this time with Lowry tape and three coats of the Liquid Tape.

Had it last for a good four or five games before I needed to retape, which, for me, is pretty good.

I would not recommend using it soon after applying, though. Retaped two nights ago, had a game that night, first shift, beat to all hell...tried to straighten out some cuts and rips in the tape and had the liquid all over my hands. Definitely needs longer than 25 minutes. Closer to a few hours with a few coats.

Hey I would love to try your product.

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honestly, after trying 3M stick tape, i was very disappointed. i still have a few rolls left over but have gone back to using Renfrew for the time being. I find the 3M tape does not stick well and rips way too easily. Half-way through the second period my stick is often in need of a new tape job, a problem i have almost never had with Renfrew tape. I do like to try out new companies products (ie Ballistik sticks, Kynetic gloves), but I dont usually feel let down like this.. Does the Liquid Flex really make enough of a difference for my tape to last more than a game or two?

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I'm game to try some again. but this time, I'd like to try on black friction tape

Never heard of the "melted in wax" method. Interesting!

I hope and think though that you will find that the 3M Liquid-Flex lasts a long time and at $10 (approx) proves fair value. With the intricate packaging, it is not a cheap product to produce.

"I want to give a few of you a bottle of the product to try and then provide feedback on. Not sure the best way to do so."

Note: I just edited my post thanks to a suggestion below. I will try and find a way to give away a few samples though as I want those that really care abou their gear to try it out and compare.

Thoughts?

Matt

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Does it give the same kind of grip as a Bladetape product? I've always wanted a product that combines taping a stick with the grip of bladetape. I tried putting bladetape over my tape job and it felt like too much cushion and ruined proper puck feel. Would the liquid grip stuff + tape give me same grip as bladetape?

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So I thought I might put some input when it comes to the 3M Liquid Tape...

I've been using the product for the past few weeks and have enjoyed it quite a bit. I only use Renfrew friction tape, so my results are based on using the Liquid Tape on it.

I find that I get 2-3 uses out of the tape before I have to retape and reapply. However I find the wear only occurs for me at the bottom of the blade really, so I mostly put a strip of friction tape on the bottom of the blade and reapply one coat of the 3M Liquid Tape. On top of that, I wax the bottom of the blade.

once the ice gets really snowy, I find there is quite a bit of s now job on the tape job, compared to when I only used wax. It seems when you apply more of the liquid tape it slightly solves the issue.

In terms of applying the liquid tape, I usually apply one coat and wait 20-30min. then apply a 2nd coat that I allow to dry for several hours for optimal performance.

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Tonight I have tried the 3M Liquid Flex on top of 3M regular stick tape.

Although I am far from being a gifted dangler, I did find the liquid flex gave me a slight advantage in puck control. The puck would stick on my blade quite a lot more than it often does. To put you in context, I'm a pretty quick and agile skater but I have no hands what so ever and teammates often tease me telling me the puck runs away from me. Ver honestly, I did find a bit more puck control and that is no placebo effect, I gotta tell you.

The liquid flex also seems to help with receptions. It seems to absorbe more energy and that translates into less vibrations and better pass receptions from me.

However, one thing I did find quite annoying, was my shot accuracy. I don't know if that has anything to do with the liquid flex, but my shots were sky-high this night. The puck seems to grip a little to much hence, launching a bit higher than it usually would. I had to ''recalibrate'' to the situation, by the end of the game I was OK, but I did scare a few guys with high slappers from the line (D-Man talking here).

As far as durability, there is not much I can say about it, having used it for only 1 game. There is no premature wear and it looks to have held up pretty good.

Overall, I like the product ! It may come a little bit expensive in the long run, applying this everytime I tape my blade. But as far as performance goes, I am impressed and satisfied !

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I've only tried the clear tape for my socks, but I wasn't a real fan of it. As simple as clear tape should be, I thought it stretched way too much almost too the point of ripping while wrapping around your shin.

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Looks like it's not a "true" 3M product - name is being used under license.

well, the grip tape for the hands (like what keith did on the widows at winter fest) could be... 3M has sold the same tape as "coban" for something like 40 years... I actually used some on my sticks a few years ago, but stopped since i couldnt just buy a roll i wanted off a store shelf.

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Quite honestly, it sounds too time consuming, especially if it really doesn't do much. I like Mojo hockey stick wax. It's really tacky and I like customizing my stick with the different colors.

Thats an interesting idea. How does it work when it gets wet?

Have you looked at BLADESHARK www.bladesharkhockey.com ?

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My biggest issue withthe 3M tape is the size of the rolls of tape, I like buying to stacks of 6 rolls, except that I get the impression that theres the same amount of tape one one of the "Bigger" rolls of tape than on the 6 stacked rolls of tape together, it just looks disappointing. Still bought it because I was at CT and it was all they had.

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two things I just want to point out

on the 3m liquid stuff, they say don't let it freeze, they really mean it...I left it out in my garage, went to use it, and it totally dried up, even after letting it thaw...into the garbage it went

and the 2nd thing, make sure you buy the right color...lol...I bought black again by accident on white tape...lol looks alright though

so far I am happy with the products and will keep using it...the tape does feel softer than renfrew, but meh

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So I got a bottle of the Liguidflex and i've been using it on top of the 3m stick tape for roller hockey. When I tape my stick I like to barely overlap, as I feel that it gives me a pingier feel (Yes, for some reason I like pingy feeling blades). So, I was very concerned on how I would like the softer feel that the liguidflex provides.

I used it in a pick-up game and immediately felt comfortable with it. I really like it for stickhandling, but honestly, I feel that my accuarcy has decreased. The puck seems to grip to the stick unpredictably and I haven't been able to adjust to it. The liquidflex has improved my my one-timers, as the slippery roller pucks really grip to my blade and not just roll off. Im going to try the tape by itself soon, hopefully the thin tape will give me a more familiar feeling to my old tape job.

In case you haven't found out yet, im very particular about my tape job :laugh:

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Well.. it's been a while but I did get some more of the liquid tape and figured out how to make it work well. I have had three tape jobs last better than three weeks of 3x/week mens league play. And have shared with another player who has also had very good wear from it. We found the trick was to let it cure and apply three or four coats to the front side, two to the backside and friction tape. Needed to make sure it cured between coats.

While the price is borderline.... this last performance with the friction tape base, I'll pick up some more next time I'm across the border.

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I'm almost through a bottle of the liquid tape and just wanting to bump this thread and provide my two cents.

I've applied it six or seven times, to three different sticks, I would guess there is one or two more applications worth left in the bottle. Typically, I tape my stick with wide tape and would then rub it with a puck and then some wax. For the Liquid Tape, I would tape my stick as usual and then apply one (fairly generous, but nothing crazy) layer of the liquid tape, typically letting it cure over night.

For me, my puck handling and pass reception were improved with this product. I don't think this has anything to do with any sort of rubberized cushioning (although for those with 2 or 3 applications on their sticks, this may be the case) but rather has everything to do with the tiny bits of recycled tire. Sort of like what the poster above was getting at with the skateboard grip tape. The tire bits help grab the puck, thereby giving greater control on the dangle and pass reception department.

However, as others have noted, when it comes to shooting, things get a little crazy. I typically use an open wedge pattern and take mostly wrist and snap shots. with the puck sticking to the blade more, I found I'm shooting high and wide a lot. I'm still adjusting to it. In fact I have a neutral faced stick which I've just applied it to and am going to use this week to see if that doesn't balance it out.

since I don't have the greatest hands, the pass reception and stick handling improvements are worth it and I will continue to tinker with this product as a result, I just need to figure out a blade pattern that works well in combination to get the shooting back to a place I like.

I'll report back after using the neutral pattern this week to keep y'all informed.

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OK, so, I said I'd report back after a week's use on a neutral blade pattern and I'm a man of my word.

The verdict is that my shot accuracy was improved, and I scored a few sweet ones to prove it (to myself).

I think I'm sold on this stuff.

If you've already got soft hands and stick handling and catching hot passes is not a problem for you, you'll likely not benefit from this product and indeed, it may feel so foreign to you that it will hinder you. However, for Captain Stone Hands here, those little bits of recycled tire help to keep that pesky puck in control.

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