Zombies #77 10 Report post Posted December 30, 2012 I play in an intermediate league where there is a 3 goal limit/person and anything after that is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. That person is also not allowed to be in the shoot-out if there is one.I am also in a beginner league at a different rink where you can score as many as you want. Last year we played a game where we lost 7-2 and 6 of their goals were from 1 guy. So I personally like having limits on ringers, it makes them to pass if the league director isn't going to force them out of the league.In the intermediate league we don't have to be registered for USA hockey and the beginner league we are. I think the interemdiate league is better ran, so I believe whoever is running the league matters more than if it USA hockey certified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MN old and slow 92 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 I play JMS/hockeyfinder/old man hockey in MN. No scoring rules but JMS will move a player up if clearly dominating or down if a player cannot keep up. Same with hockeyfinder. This is pick up with all players assigned a level that opens games at their level to sign up. At old man hockey we are all just having fun and glad to be still moving. Nobody really cares how anyone plays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2013 I play in two leagues:1) USA Hockey rules with no scoring limits. Games are decently close most of the time, C league. Largest blow outs are usually 5 goals or less. However there are often players who score multiple goals and have Jr. level or higher experience. One guy (maybe 24-25) played for the Chicago Young Americans and the Jr. Blues. Nobody can cover him and basically scores all his teams goals. He shouldn't be allowed to play at this level however the league does nothing. Games in this league often have someone getting a GFO every game. Maybe a wrestling match here and there.2) The other league is not affiliated with USA Hockey. Every player has a ID card and helmet sticker(B one color, C another color), teams must wear matching jerseys, Players are rated B or C. Games are close, B players can only score 5 goals total in a game, Roster is capped at 5 B players per team. There is rarely fights or people getting tossed. And you don't see ringers at all. The problem in this league is that former B players are getting moved down to C ratings and better B players are coming into the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted January 10, 2013 Never heard of scoring limitations in hockey leagues, but most of the baseball/softball leagues play with a match +1 (or similar) homerun rule.When a team hits a HR....they can't hit another until the second teams matches. and so on...The League I played in last Summer had a designated HR hitter rule. You can hit as many as you want...but only the first 3 players in any game to hit them can continue to. If a 4th player hits a HR it's a strike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hunterphfr 12 Report post Posted January 11, 2013 I wish, my league is ringer central. I actually discussed it with the league director at the beginning of the fall season. He seemed receptive to discussion, problem is 1/2 the teams rely heavily on their ringers. Now I've begun suggesting splitting the league (8 teams) back to where it started years ago! a 4 team upper and a 4 team lower division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MountainKing 10 Report post Posted January 14, 2013 We're in the same boat, there's two teams in our league who each has a guy who is responsible for 95% of their goals. One of the teams the guy plays D, he'll stand in front of the goalie and block all the shots grab the puck take it up and of course score, he easily should be playing at the highest amateur level. One game we played he grabbed the puck and did a couple laps around the ice with it just to show off that nobody could get the puck from him. I kind of take it to the big kid on the playground beating up the little guy. The team asked us what we thought about their new player and we just said if you guys want to cheat the system to win go right ahead. I'm back and forth on the limitations but in this case this kid averages 7-8 goals a game and this would really put a damper on something like this. Our league director keeps insisting 1 guy doesn't make a team and that we should find a ringer... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 14, 2013 There are a few ways to handle something like this. One would be to simply no-show for the games against him. If you can get multiple teams to do it, it may work more quickly. Another way would be to make his life hell every time he touches the puck. There are others, but most of my guys prefer the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrangler 157 Report post Posted January 14, 2013 Sounds like the league director is the real problem. Does he have a boss you can talk to, to get him to do his job? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MountainKing 10 Report post Posted January 15, 2013 Sounds like the league director is the real problem. Does he have a boss you can talk to, to get him to do his job?He is the boss. Honestly we've given up on it. We go out, have fun and play hard and just laugh about it. I'm amused that somebodys life is so miserable they need to beat up on guys once a week, also amused that team could have such little self respect for themselves that they would do that. I'm not sure how it's fun for these guys since none of them ever touch the puck when he's on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2013 He is the boss. Honestly we've given up on it. We go out, have fun and play hard and just laugh about it. I'm amused that somebodys life is so miserable they need to beat up on guys once a week, also amused that team could have such little self respect for themselves that they would do that. I'm not sure how it's fun for these guys since none of them ever touch the puck when he's on the ice.We've run into league directors like that. Usually we play one more session and if things don't get better we take our team to another rink.Money talks and sometimes replacement teams aren't that easy to come by. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MountainKing 10 Report post Posted January 15, 2013 We've run into league directors like that. Usually we play one more session and if things don't get better we take our team to another rink.Money talks and sometimes replacement teams aren't that easy to come by.From what we've been told it's like this everywhere around here. More and more are playing in this area so we could easily be replaced. We were frustrated at first but now it's more comical than anything. I know if I could play at a high level like that I wouldn't find myself in some beer league trying to show off my skills but then again I'm a more competitive person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeymass 11 Report post Posted February 3, 2013 When I played youth, in levels under midgets our league stopped putting goals up when one team was up by 6.In my beer league there are no limits. 2 weeks ago we stomped out the other team 8-0. Our leading scorer has 33 goals and 12 assists through 16 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MountainKing 10 Report post Posted February 4, 2013 There are a few ways to handle something like this. One would be to simply no-show for the games against him. If you can get multiple teams to do it, it may work more quickly. Another way would be to make his life hell every time he touches the puck. There are others, but most of my guys prefer the latter.We played one of the teams guilty of bringing in a ringer to score all their goals and block all their shots. We brought a very skilled sub in for this game and we told him his only job was to shut that player down so we can play hockey. He did it and did it very successfully and we managed to give that team it's first loss (the sub scored zero goals for us and we told him not to take any shots). The ringer was getting pissed that he couldn't fly by this dude and he ended up taking a handful of bad penalties. Now this normally is not our style but we wanted to make a statement that this is what it takes for a team in our league to beat this team because this ringer dude is so talented. The guy running the league had a chat with us about this the next day and he told us he does evaluate the overall talent of a team but he also needs to balance the business aspect of things. Unfortunately until he retires I don't think much will change, he's an older guy and he's very set in his ways. At the end of the day it's still just for fun, we have a fantastic team and a great locker room and if somebody that talented gets some thrill out of beating up on lesser talent then they can go right ahead. When I played youth, in levels under midgets our league stopped putting goals up when one team was up by 6.In my beer league there are no limits. 2 weeks ago we stomped out the other team 8-0. Our leading scorer has 33 goals and 12 assists through 16 games.That's a pretty hefty amount. What we generally look at is how many goals a team has scored and how many players have scored those goals. This team has scored 140 something goals in 20 games and the ringer has 135 of them. Every team will have the 1 or 2 point per game player (I still think this guy is registered under a fake name and playing high level college or junior hockey somewhere), but if you have one guy on the team that is getting all the goals then I think that player needs to be assessed and moved up higher. I still don't get how it's fun to play on that team because this guy is on the ice 90 percent of the game and you rarely see him give the puck up to anybody. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeymass 11 Report post Posted February 4, 2013 That's a pretty hefty amount. What we generally look at is how many goals a team has scored and how many players have scored those goals. This team has scored 140 something goals in 20 games and the ringer has 135 of them. Every team will have the 1 or 2 point per game player (I still think this guy is registered under a fake name and playing high level college or junior hockey somewhere), but if you have one guy on the team that is getting all the goals then I think that player needs to be assessed and moved up higher. I still don't get how it's fun to play on that team because this guy is on the ice 90 percent of the game and you rarely see him give the puck up to anybody. Yeah, I can't imagine how it's fun to have a ringer on the ice almost constantly just dangling through everyone. 100+ goals through 20 games is just silly.It's like playing a multiplayer video game with an invincibility code or some kind of aiming cheat. Yeah, you won, but you really didn't face any challenge because you had an unfair advantage. I don't see how you take any enjoyment out of a game like that, on either side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted February 4, 2013 Yeah, I can't imagine how it's fun to have a ringer on the ice almost constantly just dangling through everyone. 100+ goals through 20 games is just silly.It's like playing a multiplayer video game with an invincibility code or some kind of aiming cheat. Yeah, you won, but you really didn't face any challenge because you had an unfair advantage. I don't see how you take any enjoyment out of a game like that, on either side.Some people will do anything to win, they don't care about ethics. It's a very good way to identify people that you don't want to be around off the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoYouKnowTheMuffinMan 1 Report post Posted February 4, 2013 I play 3 leagues... One of which is on a team with some members of my girlfriends family that have literall never laced up. That league has a 2 goal per game per player... I have scored my 2 goals each game and then try to setup my teammates for more goals. The issue is that the teams we play have 3-4 players like myself so it is impossible to win a game. We have lost 8-2, 7-3, 8-2, 5-2, 6-2. The other teams ringers score their 2 goals each and I get stuck trying to spoon feed my teammates goals to stay in the game. I understand I was asked to play on the team specifically to be a ringer but then I get "talked to" after the games by the league director because I am too good for the league. Really? We just lost by 6 but I'm too good?? At least I play in 2 other legit hockey leagues, an A and an A/B that are more competitive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MountainKing 10 Report post Posted February 4, 2013 Some people will do anything to win, they don't care about ethics. It's a very good way to identify people that you don't want to be around off the ice.Yup, this team does walk around the rink their crap don't stink. I know we sunk to their level but we just wanted to equal the field and show this team that they are nothing without this dude. Our sub ringer rarely had the puck and he passed it off when he did but it was nice to be able to actually play this team for once and not just sit around watching some dude skate around the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tailboard Jockey 25 Report post Posted February 6, 2013 A friend of mine, who I coach a high school jv team with, is on a team in the Sharks Ice Adult Hockey League. They played a game where one of their guys, the fourth leading scorer on the team, got a hat trick. He had never scored that many goals in a game for them before. The other team complained, and this guy was removed from the team by the league. There was no appeal allowed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MountainKing 10 Report post Posted February 8, 2013 That's horrible. We have a guy on our team that is horrible and he nailed a hat trick in a game. It was a total fluke and he hasn't scored a goal or got an assist since but it does happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites