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I used to hate cages all my life then I bought a white one and I won't go back. I don't even notice it's there. I have a bunch of extra white ccm480's laying around incase I ever need another one. I really don't like bauer cages though, I had a 9500 cage and thought the same as you do about it.

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First game with the cage was really hard. second game was tonight. For the most part, not too bad. By the middle of the game, the bars were a blur and I was seeing the ice much better. The transition is going better than I anticipated.

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Just to second what Chadd and wrangler have been saying, it is absolutely not worth it to risk your safety or your status in a league by playing with a modified cage. If you want a CUSTOM cage, there are lots of good options: OTNY Wire in Toronto, Olympia Composites, and others. They make cages for goalie masks, both retail and custom, and they make them very well. It won't be cheap, but it's hardly more than a modest, regular trip to the dentist -- and a tiny fraction of having your face put back together.

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Just to second what Chadd and wrangler have been saying, it is absolutely not worth it to risk your safety or your status in a league by playing with a modified cage. If you want a CUSTOM cage, there are lots of good options: OTNY Wire in Toronto, Olympia Composites, and others. They make cages for goalie masks, both retail and custom, and they make them very well. It won't be cheap, but it's hardly more than a modest, regular trip to the dentist -- and a tiny fraction of having your face put back together.

Like I posted earlier, I love my cat eye box lacrosse cage. Wish the openings in most of the newer box lacrosse cages were smaller, most manufacturers have gone away from the cat eye style. They seem to have bigger and horizontal openings that a puck would fit through. I have an OTNY cat eye rec cage I picked up from Hockey Tron as a backup.

Not as safe as a true cage, but a better option than removing bars or wearing a half shield.

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we had a guy show up to our league in one of those OTNY cages. we told him that he couldn't play in it because it's not certified and our league requires facial protection for all but the highest level.

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Those old cages with out a chin cup are no better than nothing IMO. I call the new ones available like the one at Tron black market. A defenseman on my team stood up a forward one time and his shoulder ended up hitting the cage, the cage ended up hitting his mouth and the player lost a few teeth.

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Agreed. What I was talking about was a custom cage *from* OTNY (or any other good cage maker), including a proper chin setup (cup or sling), fitted to the side-clips of a helmet: in other words, the same as a regular cage except for custom wires, spacing, and overall shape.

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Agreed. What I was talking about was a custom cage *from* OTNY (or any other good cage maker), including a proper chin setup (cup or sling), fitted to the side-clips of a helmet: in other words, the same as a regular cage except for custom wires, spacing, and overall shape.

They have a lot of different "stock" models, it's an interesting idea.

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You should bring it in against your chin then and make if fit properly, that might help. As others have said, bringing the cup against your chin gets it more out of your field of vision and bringing the bars closer to your eyes actually allows you to see through them easier.

Try bringing it in closer and then see if that helps.

You are the man, I think my problem is solved :)

Played twice now with the cage closer to chin, my vision has improved tremendously.

Cheers

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Like I posted earlier, I love my cat eye box lacrosse cage. Wish the openings in most of the newer box lacrosse cages were smaller, most manufacturers have gone away from the cat eye style. They seem to have bigger and horizontal openings that a puck would fit through. I have an OTNY cat eye rec cage I picked up from Hockey Tron as a backup.

Not as safe as a true cage, but a better option than removing bars or wearing a half shield.

could you post a picture? I'd be interested in seeing what it looks like

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I realize this topic is a bit old, but I'm going to be playing my first indoor roller game this Sunday with my Bauer 920 Combo (on a RE-AKT). I can report back if you'd like on how it performed in a warm roller environment. I've played ice in it a few times and haven't had any problems breathing or with sweat. Well, maybe a little bit of sweat, but I could get my bare hand up underneath to wipe it away w/o unsnapping it. Zero fogging issues at all.

All I've ever worn were the Itech full-clear and combos. I've never worn a cage so can't really compare the two of them, but I really like this 920 so far.

And, as it was brought up earlier in the topic, definitely get what you want and wear it- who cares what people think? I'm a married 35yr old father of two. No facial protection is required in the league, but I won't have any problem showing up with this 920 and don't care what people may think or say. I want to...I need to be protected as I'm the only one who works in the family and can't afford to be out for a month or two with a broken up face. My old full-clear has a good 3-4" scrape up the middle from when some guy fell and his stick rocked my world, lol. (That's what she said.) I'm guessing I probably would've needed surgery after that had I not had SOMEthing on my face (visor wouldn't have helped) - that hit really rattled my head.

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Those old cages with out a chin cup are no better than nothing IMO. I call the new ones available like the one at Tron black market. A defenseman on my team stood up a forward one time and his shoulder ended up hitting the cage, the cage ended up hitting his mouth and the player lost a few teeth.

When these came out in the 70's a football style chin strap held everything in place. That was essentially the chin cup.

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Wanted to come back and post my experience tonight. Tonight was my first game after my 15 yr or so hiatus. My Bauer 920 Combo has already paid off! I was playing defense and had a guy charging down; I was in front of him by a few feet. He wound up for a shot so I lunged to poke the puck. His shot was deflected off my blade right between my eyes. Yeah, a visor probably would have stopped that one (think it was high enough), but I was very thankful to have that shield!!

FWIW, if I remember right I'm the only one on my team with full-face protection. 2-3 visors, the rest have nothing.

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well, I decided to use a cage for the first time this year and had:

  1. A slapshot right in the face
  2. A good high stick in the helmet area.

I'm not putting a visor on anytime soon...

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Those old cages with out a chin cup are no better than nothing IMO. I call the new ones available like the one at Tron black market. A defenseman on my team stood up a forward one time and his shoulder ended up hitting the cage, the cage ended up hitting his mouth and the player lost a few teeth.

I grew up wearing a full cage while playing hockey, but spent the late 70s, all of the 80s and well into the 90s playing both box and field lacrosse wearing a Cooper HM 40 cat eye cage. After I got cut 3 times wearing a half shield in men's league hockey I put the HM40 back on. While I don't have a "chin cup" mine has the small pad that it originally came with and I wear a mouthguard. In box lacrosse the primary and legal method of contact is cross checking, which means sticks are carried high compared to hockey and contact/the odd cross check to the face are somewhat common occurrences. Contact with the cage is far more frequent than in hockey. I have seen a follow through with a solid old school one piece hickory stick cave a guys cage into his cheek bone. In 12 years of lacrosse where 3/4 of the players wore a HM30 or HM40 cage I never saw a tooth injury. The late 70s and early 80s NHL had many a goaltender that faced 100 mph slapshots with HM30 & HM40 cages, many without a chin pad much less a chin cup. The likes of Billy Smith, Doug Keans, Bob Janecyk, Riendeau, Osgoode, Belfour, Peters, Vanbiesbruck and more all faced serious rubber with an HM40 or HM30 cage. There's at least a dozen of them in the league I play in. Does it provide as much protection as a true full cage, no. I did get cut 3 times with a half shield in less than 2 years. I have spent well over 20 in my HM40 without so much as a scratch.

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