I think I was sized wrong for my Graf G5 skates

[Lamski 0]

I bought a pair of Graf G5 skates (6D) at the end of December and have tried working them in over the last 2 months. I still have discomfort after baking and about 10 sessions/games. I also recently noticed that my ankle bone is very close and almost right on the top eyelet and there is no padding on the ankle there. As some of the other pain has reduced in the forefoot area and arch area, the ankle pain has now arose... and I didn't notice it prior or when I tried on the skates at the LHS. Is this an improper fit? The instep on the G5 is not enough?

I previously wore NikeBauer vapor XXXX skates (6D) for 3 years and it seems this fit wasn't correct either as they bulged out substantially in the forefoot area but the instep area and heel seemed to fit well. They still offered good performance but wore out the foam in the ankle area and was painful which is why I wanted to get new skates.

I'm not sure where to go from here. I don't think the G5's are going to work for me. Should I be looking at the Bauer Supreme line?

[romdj 26]

imo you should identify the different issues and hence the solutions:

from what I read, you seem to have a footbed issue, so looking into superfeet insoles may be an option.

and the graf g5 is imo an average foot skates, and you seem to have a narrow foot all the way, a high arch and a high volume.

my guess is bauer totalone preferably in a c width, graf 703, g3 but you may have volume issues, same for vaporsand makos in a D width seem to be the solution. I'd look into reeboks as well my guess is:

totalone>20k/11k>mako/mlx>g3

the skate fit varry from one to another e.g one.( will have a different fit to the totalone same goes for x7 vs apx.)

The solution is, go to your lhs, spend an hour there and try all the skates they have and seek the perfect fit.

Try first how you're doing with different footbeds, then you may look into different skates.

I may be totally off track here, and other members will notice but that's what I think are the solution from your description.

[akravetz 29]

I have a pair of G5s and while my feet like hobbit-like (very wide), the LHS I went to was able to stretch the width, punch out the toe and even move one of the runners to make it fit right on my feet. Go back to the shop and see if they can either stretch or punch out some of the skate. I went back twice before they really fit well. Good luck

[beedee 227]

+2 for stretching and punching. I have a thread on here on my experience with the G5's. About two or three weeks ago I had them punch the area out just behind the toe-cap, on the inside portion, basically where the wide point of where my big toe connects to my foot. I was getting a weird bump there, and it was becoming painful. The last go'round with punching solved that issue.

Believe me when I say, I was very frustrated with my Graf experience. I was looking at other options, and was leaning towards a pair of Nexus 600's from Bauer. Well, after 11 months of use, and a few punches and stretches here and there, mine are finally dialed in! My last three games have been a pleasure, as I was so elated to finally not experience some form of foot discomfort!

[akravetz 29]

I truly love my G5s. I don't get why the steel is so crappy that it rusts so easily compared to my old Bauer. And I had the cheapies. I was looking for another Supreme but higher in the class but the Graf was able to fit my feet better. It's a good skate, I think, but the rusting the bolt coming loose to hold in the blade is annoying. And yes, i have tried lock-tite. Anyway, that's off topic. Good luck with your skates.

[Lamski 0]

+2 for stretching and punching. I have a thread on here on my experienca t fe eels. with the G5's. About two or three weeks ago I had them punch the area out just behind the toe-cap, on the inside portion, basically where the wide point of where my big toe connects to my foot. I was getting a weird bump there, and it was becoming painful. The last go'round with punching solved that issue.

Believe me when I say, I was very frustrated with my Graf experience. I was looking at other options, and was leaning towards a pair of Nexus 600's from Bauer. Well, after 11 months of use, and a few punches and stretches here and there, mine are finally dialed in! My last three games have been a pleasure, as I was so elated to finally not experience some form of foot discomfort!

I have the same pressure on the area connecting the big toe to the foot. I'll get it punched out to see if it will help. However I still have the issue of the left inner ankle being right up on the eyelet and no ankle padding there. Will punching out that area help as well?

[Lamski 0]

imo you should identify the different issues and hence the solutions:

from what I read, you seem to have a footbed issue, so looking into superfeet insoles may be an option.

and the graf g5 is imo an average foot skates, and you seem to have a narrow foot all the way, a high arch and a high volume.

my guess is bauer totalone preferably in a c width, graf 703, g3 but you may have volume issues, same for vaporsand makos in a D width seem to be the solution. I'd look into reeboks as well my guess is:

totalone>20k/11k>mako/mlx>g3

the skate fit varry from one to another e.g one.( will have a different fit to the totalone same goes for x7 vs apx.)

The solution is, go to your lhs, spend an hour there and try all the skates they have and seek the perfect fit.

Try first how you're doing with different footbeds, then you may look into different skates.

I may be totally off track here, and other members will notice but that's what I think are the solution from your description.

imo you should identify the different issues and hence the solutions:

from what I read, you seem to have a footbed issue, so looking into superfeet insoles may be an option.

and the graf g5 is imo an average foot skates, and you seem to have a narrow foot all the way, a high arch and a high volume.

my guess is bauer totalone preferably in a c width, graf 703, g3 but you may have volume issues, same for vaporsand makos in a D width seem to be the solution. I'd look into reeboks as well my guess is:

totalone>20k/11k>mako/mlx>g3

the skate fit varry from one to another e.g one.( will have a different fit to the totalone same goes for x7 vs apx.)

The solution is, go to your lhs, spend an hour there and try all the skates they have and seek the perfect fit.

Try first how you're doing with different footbeds, then you may look into different skates.

I may be totally off track here, and other members will notice but that's what I think are the solution from your description.

Iguess I should have mentioned that I do use the yellow superfeet with my skates. I have used them on my Vapor XXXX as well as the G5's. I don't believe my foot is narrow as my vapors are very expanded and buldge out quite a bit in the forefoot area. I'll try to post a couple pictures. Anyway, when I showed them to my skat shop he said they are not the proper fit for me. However, they seemed to have worked well for the past 3 years.

I guess what i'm looking for is some sort of a detailed guide on how a skate is suposed to fit.

I'm looking to answer questions like:

Are the eyelets suposed to wrap around your foot and slightly close around your foot, or stay straight?,

Where should your ankle be in comparrison to the eyelets?

How should your toes and heels be seated in the boot?

Does ankle position and instep size remain constant between different sizes (ex... a 6D has the same heel and instep as a 10D, just quite a bit shorter)?

It seems I have a unique style of foot. I have short feet for my height (5' 10" 185lbs and fully grown at age 33) but I believe I have standard foot height, instep, and slightly wide foot. (I can fit into a size 6 skate lengthwise and I usually wear a size 8-8.5 shoe).

[greyskull 21]

I truly love my G5s. I don't get why the steel is so crappy that it rusts so easily compared to my old Bauer. And I had the cheapies. I was looking for another Supreme but higher in the class but the Graf was able to fit my feet better. It's a good skate, I think, but the rusting the bolt coming loose to hold in the blade is annoying. And yes, i have tried lock-tite. Anyway, that's off topic. Good luck with your skates.

Get some ls2's on there.

[akravetz 29]

yeah, maybe next year. Wife isn't going to let me spend more money on hockey gear this year. With both kids playing youth hockey and them growing like weeds, I am going to have put up with it for a while. :) It's not the end of the world; I just don't get why Graf steel is so rust-prone while I heard in the past that Graf was supposed to be awesome.

Andy

[Too Old 1]

All you need to get is Step runners and the issue is solved. I have 3 sets that I rotate as needed.

[Vet88 674]

I have the same pressure on the area connecting the big toe to the foot. I'll get it punched out to see if it will help. However I still have the issue of the left inner ankle being right up on the eyelet and no ankle padding there. Will punching out that area help as well?

I also have the same issue. Punching the area does help but I still got a little bit of tendonitis around the ankle. I now strap some foam under the ankle to relieve the pressure on the ankle bone. I purchased some ankle gel pads from IW but have yet to try them out to see if they will help as well.