Careers?

[beaucoup_fish 0]

Neo - I am in neither right now, I choose my major at the end of the year (hopefully). Sports Management is offered at another school, I'd have to change, I like the idea, but realize the oppurtunities are slim. Marketing the same thing. I am in Political Science right now, but looking to take another Psych, add a marketing (don't have any), and hopefully a calculus class (generally do well in calc.). From there i'll see where it takes me. I am very nervous to see what'll happen after I graduate University, it seems like under employment is a real problem, either that or that damn Sociology class is poisoning my mind.

In retrospect Easy, I woulda done something in liberal arts like poli sci...offers you a more well rounded education. Sides, if you ever wanted to do business of some sort, do an MBA afterward - it's more worthwhile, and it's kinda the benchmark in the business world now - everyone has one.

[2048 0]

I'll agree with Fish.

I'm in my freshman year at Business school and am almost 100% dropping it next year. What a terrible, shitty major. If oyu ask me, someone who gets a Liberal arts degree now and then an MBA later is much more prepared to think critically and analytically than an undergrad Business major. Maybe I'm just jaded because my school feels like office space, but that's exactly how I feel about the subject.

Don't even get me started on human resources...talk about a case of the mondays.

[NashvillePreds 1]

Like many, I too have no idea what I am going to do with myself...

How sad is this? I have a 98.2% Overall Average in advanced courses at my school... 100 in advanced math, 100 in advanced chemistry, 100 in comp applications (ez), 98 in advanced english, 93 in co-op (a joke but I forgot to pass something in). I have no plans of going to university, so the real question is, why in the hell would I put my self through the grueling torment of homework and trying so hard? Aside from suffering from a need for perfection, I do it as a backup plan if I don't make it in the acting career.

Acting is it what I would truly like to do, regardless of whether it is tv commercials or being the star.

If I don't become an actor, I don't know what I am gonna do. I have been directed to government websites that list many careers and all their salaries and the main thing here is not that the salaries are listed, but there are a ton of jobs listed and therefore, we can find what we like among the list.

Good luck. Life sucks and then you marry someone that won't.

I'm in the same boat than you Speed Demon. In high school I was a great student, but after my high school, I decided to drop school because nothing was interesting me in college. Since that time, I'm only training in hockey, not even working anywhere. That's kind of a dream life for me right now. I play hockey 2-3 times a day everyday plus I do weighlifting, stickhandling, shooting at home.

I wish I will make a career in hockey and I'm sure I can, but if I don't succeed I will still be pretty young and will have the time to go for another career opportunity. At least, I will regret nothing and I will have do all my possible to realize my dream. :)

When I will be a grandpa, I don't want to have to say, life is hard, life sucks, you don't do what you want in life, life should be fun and guys remind that WE ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE TO LIVE so enjoy it the most you can...

Sounds like something I would say when I have a test at 8 the next morning and a liter of Jack in my hand.

[beaucoup_fish 0]

Curse my useless undergraduate business degreeeeeeeee! Seriously folks, you need an advanced everything to get ahead now. Everyone and their dog has an MBA now.

Man, I think all (most, anyway) of you guys on this board hoping to make it to the show need a real reality check...the fact that you guys spend so much time here on the board and are over 16 likely means one of two things:

1. You are not good enough to be playing major junior hockey and need to get an education because you are NOT going to the NHL no matter how much you believe (unless you are gonna be the guy that picks up Kovalev's jock after the game).

2. You are not good enough to be playing college hockey and need to get an education because you are NOT going to the NHL no matter how much you believe (unless you are gonna be the guy that picks up Kovalev's jock after the game).

Sorry fellas, but get real. Hockey is fun, but more than likely you are not going to be playing it for a living. Otherwise, you wouldn't have time to f**k around on MSH.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

Man, I think all (most, anyway) of you guys on this board hoping to make it to the show need a real reality check...the fact that you guys spend so much time here on the board and are over 16 likely means one of two things:

1. You are not good enough to be playing major junior hockey and need to get an education because you are NOT going to the NHL no matter how much you believe (unless you are gonna be the guy that picks up Kovalev's jock after the game).

2. You are not good enough to be playing college hockey and need to get an education because you are NOT going to the NHL no matter how much you believe (unless you are gonna be the guy that picks up Kovalev's jock after the game). 

Sorry fellas, but get real.  Hockey is fun, but more than likely you are not going to be playing it for a living.  Otherwise, you wouldn't have time to f**k around on MSH.

MSH gives us a chance to learn in hockey, to learn about equipment and I don't think passing time on MSH is a lost of time. Playing video games is a lost of time but not passing time on MSH IMO. Plus, how can you judge my choice, have you ever see me play, do you know how I like this sport, hockey is everything for me or maybe you are just jealous and you would like to do what I do. And let Kovalev out of the discussion, Kovy has nothing to do with that.

[bdj 0]

Curse my useless undergraduate business degreeeeeeeee! Seriously folks, you need an advanced everything to get ahead now. Everyone and their dog has an MBA now.

Man, I think all (most, anyway) of you guys on this board hoping to make it to the show need a real reality check...the fact that you guys spend so much time here on the board and are over 16 likely means one of two things:

1. You are not good enough to be playing major junior hockey and need to get an education because you are NOT going to the NHL no matter how much you believe (unless you are gonna be the guy that picks up Kovalev's jock after the game).

2. You are not good enough to be playing college hockey and need to get an education because you are NOT going to the NHL no matter how much you believe (unless you are gonna be the guy that picks up Kovalev's jock after the game).

Sorry fellas, but get real. Hockey is fun, but more than likely you are not going to be playing it for a living. Otherwise, you wouldn't have time to f**k around on MSH.

I have to say I agree, Your not gonna make the NHL so dont depend on it.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

Curse my useless undergraduate business degreeeeeeeee!  Seriously folks, you need an advanced everything to get ahead now.  Everyone and their dog has an MBA now. 

Man, I think all (most, anyway) of you guys on this board hoping to make it to the show need a real reality check...the fact that you guys spend so much time here on the board and are over 16 likely means one of two things:

1. You are not good enough to be playing major junior hockey and need to get an education because you are NOT going to the NHL no matter how much you believe (unless you are gonna be the guy that picks up Kovalev's jock after the game).

2. You are not good enough to be playing college hockey and need to get an education because you are NOT going to the NHL no matter how much you believe (unless you are gonna be the guy that picks up Kovalev's jock after the game). 

Sorry fellas, but get real.  Hockey is fun, but more than likely you are not going to be playing it for a living.  Otherwise, you wouldn't have time to f**k around on MSH.

I have to say I agree, Your not gonna make the NHL so dont depend on it.

My goal is not to play in a specific league it's to be paid playing hockey(like in Europe or semi-pro in Quebec).

[crosskore 0]

Sorry fellas, but get real.  Hockey is fun, but more than likely you are not going to be playing it for a living.  Otherwise, you wouldn't have time to f**k around on MSH.

Because if your good at hockey, every second of your life is spent doing something hockey related. I bet alot of the NHL people dont even have time to sleep or eat. I bet lots of them dont even own tv's, because they dont have time! I am amazed they even have houses. You would think the fact that they dont have time for anything besides hockey and training, they wouldnt need a house, what wouldthey do in it? Not go on a computer or watch tv or read a book or anything like that. Man... If I want to go anywhere I better quit school... thats taking up so much of my time..

[cgin6 0]

If you are able to beat the odds and are able to eventually earn a living playing hockey that will provide for you and your family to an old age, keeping in mind that the average serviceable lifespan of a hockey player, then all the power to you. Just don't let the pursuit of that goal, leave you without any marketable skills in the event that hockey doesnt work out.

[beaucoup_fish 0]

MSH gives us a chance to learn in hockey, to learn about equipment and I don't think passing time on MSH is a lost of time. Playing video games is a lost of time but not passing time on MSH IMO. Plus, how can you judge my choice, have you ever see me play, do you know how I like this sport, hockey is everything for me or maybe you are just jealous and you would like to do what I do. And let Kovalev out of the discussion, Kovy has nothing to do with that.

Kovy Kovy, I never said time spent on MSH is time wasted. And I don't doubt your love or commitment to the game, but the fact of the matter is that you are 19 years old and not playing Major Junior or College hockey. If you are not playing at that level at 19, then the odds of you playing pro or even semi-pro, whether in Europe or elsewhere, are slim to none. Like cgin says, don't leave yourself with no marketable skills - hockey likely isn't going to work out. By choosing only to focus on hockey, you are closing a lot of doors that otherwise would be open.

As for jealousy...well yeah, Kovy, I am jealous that I am not able to play hockey 3 or 4 times a week. I only wish I had the time to do so, but I have other commitments since I know that I am never going to get paid to play hockey.

Theo, I'm not putting anyone down here, just offering what I believe to be a realistic view of the world...

[Eazy_b97 1]

Odds are nobody here has a shot at making a living playing Hockey. Not that nobody will, but that the odds are not in your favour. I don't necessarily agree that being on MSH hinders your ability to make it places. Most of the OHL guys I know, spend ALOT of time on computers, because of MSN and other tools being used to keep in touch with friends back home.

The odds for anyone making the NHL are extremely remote at best, but I get the impression from Beaucoup's post, that they don't have time to be on the internet. I would have to disagree with that statement, but agree nobody should be planning on hockey to provide a future.

[beaucoup_fish 0]

Hm. While it's true that if you are play high level hockey, you DO have time to do other things...the point I was trying to make was that high level players probably don't spend much time on these things, since they get firsthand experience with most of the equipment that normal folks never will, which makes it far less likely that they'll have to use a forum like MSH for info...

[Chadd 916]

Hm. While it's true that if you are play high level hockey, you DO have time to do other things...the point I was trying to make was that high level players probably don't spend much time on these things, since they get firsthand experience with most of the equipment that normal folks never will, which makes it far less likely that they'll have to use a forum like MSH for info...

A large number of pros don't care about equipment. as long as it works for them, they're happy.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

Hm.  While it's true that if you are play high level hockey, you DO have time to do other things...the point I was trying to make was that high level players probably don't spend much time on these things, since they get firsthand experience with most of the equipment that normal folks never will, which makes it far less likely that they'll have to use a forum like MSH for info...

A large number of pros don't care about equipment. as long as it works for them, they're happy.

I agree with you Chadd, but the player I like in the NHL seems to care a lot about their equipment, I think it's important to have equipment that fits you the best and MSH help me a lot on that point.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

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MSH gives us a chance to learn in hockey, to learn about equipment and I don't think passing time on MSH is a lost of time. Playing video games is a lost of time but not passing time on MSH IMO. Plus, how can you judge my choice, have you ever see me play, do you know how I like this sport, hockey is everything for me or maybe you are just jealous and you would like to do what I do. And let Kovalev out of the discussion, Kovy has nothing to do with that.

Kovy Kovy, I never said time spent on MSH is time wasted. And I don't doubt your love or commitment to the game, but the fact of the matter is that you are 19 years old and not playing Major Junior or College hockey. If you are not playing at that level at 19, then the odds of you playing pro or even semi-pro, whether in Europe or elsewhere, are slim to none. Like cgin says, don't leave yourself with no marketable skills - hockey likely isn't going to work out. By choosing only to focus on hockey, you are closing a lot of doors that otherwise would be open.

As for jealousy...well yeah, Kovy, I am jealous that I am not able to play hockey 3 or 4 times a week. I only wish I had the time to do so, but I have other commitments since I know that I am never going to get paid to play hockey.

Theo, I'm not putting anyone down here, just offering what I believe to be a realistic view of the world...

I undertsand your point and I think it is valuable. But for my own interest, I prefer to chase my dream because that's what a wanna do. Maybe in 2-3 years, I will not think like that but right now I really enjoy my life and everything goes well. I play with or against guys that have been drafted in the NHL in the summer, and I can say I have more skills than them without being too cocky, I'm really honest.

Anyway, that's fun to talk to you guys about things like that even if we don't think the same way... ;)

[elle 0]

Wow guys, I'm totally impressed by this whole thread. You seem to show such compassion and concern for each other - as a girl that's nice to see. The spirit of hockey brotherhood is alive and well on this board. I'm pleased and glad you all care so much!

I'm just basically confused in life too - I have a great job, it doesn't get me much money but I get to do things on live TV that I would never normally have done. I suppose I'm saddened by the fact that the women's game over here and in general is not as prevalent as it should be, but hey, things can change.

I got a degree in Film from Stirling University, and Kansas University, but I think I wouldn't go back and teach it after working in the industry. There's too much of a divide between what they teach you and what really goes on!

I'm just happy to dink around until something good (like a job in Canada!) comes along...

But...good luck to those of you who have dreams to follow!

Elle x

[Lester8 11]

I'm a college brat. I don't have a shred of a plan past that. I'm not worried but that's how I ended up a college brat in the first place. Just do everything you like even if they don't pay. Gotta figure something will come along where your unique combination of skills will apply. I'd rather the job suit me than the other way around. It remains a matter of spinning your hobbies into items on your resume. If it spells CEO, great, if not, you're still great. At least you're interested in what you do and that makes you interesting, which makes you attractive and means you have a lot of friends and a full life. You wanna mess with that by picking a 'career'? I refuse to believe we must choose either fun or money. Unfortunately, I don't think anybody has a formula for getting a little of both, not even a college brat. One thing's for sure, nothing like finals to make you question what the hell you're doing with your life.

[LkptTiger 1]

The spirit of hockey brotherhood is alive and well on this board. I'm pleased and glad you all care so much!

...Absolutely: until we get on the ice wearing different color jersies ;)

Seriously, though, most hockey players have a deep mutual respect for one another. When you think about it, we really are sick, demented people; only a sick, demented person would subject his/her body to the violent demands of one game of competitive hockey, and yet we do it upwards of seventy or eighty times a year. There is a special "comraderie" that hockey players share that only falls short of the bonds aquired between troops during war.

[beaucoup_fish 0]

Seriously, though, most hockey players have a deep mutual respect for one another.

This is true, however, I think that it's our mutual respect as human beings that has garnered all the responses on this thread.

[Buzz_LightBeer 970]

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Neo, just a suggestion. I love my job, its exciting, it pays enough, and you ever know what to expect. job availability is sometimes an issue, but youre young

[Eazy_b97 1]

What program are you going through Buzz? I was going to go into FF, but to be honest I didn't enjoy my Co-Op. They also said EMS is a good route to go for FF because in Canada you have to be 25 I believe and most calls are medical.

[Buzz_LightBeer 970]

yeah, around here 9 out of 10 of our calls are EMS, and the tenth is usually a false alarm. someplaces will hire with no experience, and i dont know canada's system. i had a friend from Lethbridge who spent 2 years in the same associate degree program as i, and is now fighting wildland fires in canada. what co-op did you do?

[Eazy_b97 1]

I did a Co-Op a steel company, but was in the Fire Department. I'm sure the real thing is better, but just didn't think that it was the right path for me. Its still a fallback along with Police Foundations and Sports Management if this doesn't work.

[Borsch 0]

Hm.  While it's true that if you are play high level hockey, you DO have time to do other things...the point I was trying to make was that high level players probably don't spend much time on these things, since they get firsthand experience with most of the equipment that normal folks never will, which makes it far less likely that they'll have to use a forum like MSH for info...

A large number of pros don't care about equipment. as long as it works for them, they're happy.

I agree with you Chadd, but the player I like in the NHL seems to care a lot about their equipment, I think it's important to have equipment that fits you the best and MSH help me a lot on that point.

Kovy, man, way to go!

This thread applies to me as well, so I've read through it and have to say that you are on exactly the right path. Doing what we love is the way to go(maybe the only way to be happy, since happiness is a journey), important thing is to go with heart and full commitment. Then resonance effect will be achieved - passion ,head and hard work are all needed for that though. Practice new stuff all the time do not go through the motions with what you already can do. Be hard on yourself- be very critical, you don't need someone's else’s criticism or praise - you know everything about yourself exactly. And use your head as well. Just working hard will never be enough to make it in any field like yours. Many people work like mad through their lives but achieve relatively little. Oh well, I could say many things to you from the height of my 24 year-oldness, but... I'm a bit lazy in putting it all together...

PS Honestly do you really think you're good enough? :) What's your skating like - can you do Allen Slide Glide, Russian Kip... Stickhandling - head always up? One thing you've got is the right heroes: Kovalev (I think) is the smoothest, most skilful player of all time. Both his skating and puck handling are poetry in motion. Its like his made of water or something -he goes for the moves other players can only dream about and succeeds...

PPS Iam not jealous B) For one at the moment I'm a student and as such able to do whatever I like (for most part) - play hockey for fun is one thing and I'm also grade 9 on piano... but also spending my entire life in hockey would mean spending entire life among hockey players, who (no offence) are a bit narrow minded(to put it politely:) No offence

PPPS Equipment does NOT matter, my friend;) Soviet/russian players are testimony to that!

[beaucoup_fish 0]

One thing you've got is the right heroes: Kovalev (I think) is the smoothest, most skilful player of all time. Both his skating and puck handling are poetry in motion. Its like his made of water or something -he goes for the moves other players can only dream about and succeeds...

No offence

PPPS Equipment does NOT matter, my friend;) Soviet/russian players are testimony to that!

Ok, I just have to object to that...Kovalev is a sick player, for sure, of that there can be no doubt, but "the smoothest, most skilful player of all time?" Not a chance in hell.

IMO, Lemieux is the most naturally talented and smooth player ever. Just watching him is like watching the game in slow-mo...so effortless, it sounds dumb, but when he's got the puck on his stick, he just looks like a flowing river...

I just think you can really notice Lemieux vs. everyone else...Bure, Kovalev, all the Russians/Europeans seem to really rely on quickness and their dangles all look nice, but SPASTIC to me...I watch Lemieux and it's evident that he doesn't need to pull off his moves at the highest speed - he's just that good and that smooth.

And regarding the equipment point: I think that in the past, it was obvious that Russian players didn't have access to the highest quality equipment, but these days, the high-level players seem to all have the same stuff that we do...not sure about the tykes tho, they may not have access, since cost is so prohibitive...