Speedz98 15 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 Need some help fixing my crossovers. Here are two videos, one with puck and one without. I have a few observations of my own such as popping up out of turns instead of maintaining a low stance. I feel as though it's taking me too long to start crossing-over out of a turn and I'm losing speed. In these videos I'm using my new VHFootwear skates and BlackEdge steel. I welcome all positive critique. Video 1Video 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beleafer 14 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 I think you need to be pushing down with a bit more force coming out of the cross over. You should be exploding out of the turn and not just popping out. Also might want to increase the height of your cross over. *I'm not a skating expert by any means so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but this is what I noticed.Edit: After watching some of my own videos I definitely have this issue too. I kind of stand upright and dont get much power out of my cross overs, and then once I'm going straight instead of turning I starting pushing down really hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
romdj 26 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 great videos!pretty courageous ^^I will only say that you don't need to hold on to your stick with 2 hands, as you hold it, it hinders your movements. Try to lower your lower back and get in a more "crouched position and lean forward too that will allow you to accelerate better and have quicker transitions for turns and better explosiveness. that's my 1c Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salibandy 21 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 This is the way I see it: as you come out of your tight turn and into a crossover, you have got to move your weight from your back foot over your front foot. If your feet are also pretty wide apart, then you also have to move your weight left or right in addition to forward depending on which side you're turning. So if you're going left, move your weight forward and to the left as you transition to a crossover, and vice versa for the right turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoopster 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 It looks like you're on your heels when you're exiting your turns, and as a result your feet are trying to catch up with your body. Try and get the weight over the balls of your feet. Perhaps a bit more knee bend may help. It may be you're just adjusting to new skates though.Nice video, always cool to see yourself on tape! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 13 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 Agree that you are a bit on your heels, but the biggest thing I notice is that you aren't crossing over much. Your foot that is doing the crossover needs to go farther to the inside when you step over. the other critical part of the crossover is what they call the x-push. Your back foot needs to extend more and push past the front leg as far as you can. To make this a bigger stronger move, you need to have more knee bend.Check out this Laura Stamm videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt2FusnlKlw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
romdj 26 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 awesome video Jordan,keep in mind that the distance between cones is too small for properly doing crossovers which requires a turning angle quite wider than a quick turn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akravetz 29 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 Great comments. I am working on mine as well and noticed he does some of the things I do. Damn brave to put that video up there and ask for help. Props to you, my man. Andy in Peoria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktang 34 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 From Video 1, it looks like you are pushing backwards too much (instead of sideways) with your outside leg. Then you have to bring your leg all the way forward before you can cross over again, which reduces your stride tempo and affects your balance.It's an easy fix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Larry54 243 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 awesome video Jordan,keep in mind that the distance between cones is too small for properly doing crossovers which requires a turning angle quite wider than a quick turnExactly. Can't properly judge your crossovers from the exercises in those two videos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gxc999 7 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 You need to bend your knees and sit down with your rear-end. You're using too much lean/leverage from your bodyweight. Essentially, you're throwing yourself off balance and cannot correct for it with your feet alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedz98 15 Report post Posted November 23, 2013 Thanks for the help and suggestions guys. I used this video as a guide line for making those tight turns and that's why you see me sit on my heels as much as I do. I suppose I may not be rocking to my toes enough. I really liked that Laura Stamm video too as the guy breaks down all the parts to the crossovers. Maybe I'll film myself doing crossovers around a circle and we can figure out what's going on there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salibandy 21 Report post Posted November 24, 2013 He is teaching nothing wrong, but perhaps what you're missing isn't apparent from watching his videos. While sitting back on your heels is perfect for a tight turn, it's the wrong stance for executing a crossover, and he doesn't really go over that.The rocking toes part he is describing is the weight transfer I mentioned. On a regular crossover, one has to always be over their inside foot to properly stride. The same applies here; as you exit the turn, you have to get into a crossover position. It really is a two part movement - the tight turn which then transitions to a crossover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chk hrd 164 Report post Posted November 24, 2013 You definitely need to keep 2 hands on the stick and you need to keep the blade down on the ice. Removing one hand is a lazy habit that will flow over into real time play. If you are making a crossover turn in a game you better be ready for a pass or quick acceleration, one handing the stick will lead to dragging your stick and an upright posture, which is good for nothing. Same goes for keeping the blade on the ice, it keeps your body lower, ready for a pass and turns your body into the turn. Try any turn standing up with the blade at waist level and then do the same turn with the blade on the ice inside the turn. It will be much quicker and much stronger. You also look like you are trying to pop up out of the turn to start the next one. You want to keep those legs bent and stay in a good skating position to transfer from one direction to the next. Popping up takes you out of one position and forces your body to readjust for the next. I have always preferred longer smoother strides than short choppy one. They are more efficient. It may look like you are not going fast but you are with less wasted energy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gxc999 7 Report post Posted November 24, 2013 I forgot one thing, don't keep all your weight totally back in your heel. You need to be on the middle-back of your edges, not 100% on the back heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtrainerguy28 478 Report post Posted December 5, 2013 Need some help fixing my crossovers. Here are two videos, one with puck and one without. I have a few observations of my own such as popping up out of turns instead of maintaining a low stance. I feel as though it's taking me too long to start crossing-over out of a turn and I'm losing speed. In these videos I'm using my new VHFootwear skates and BlackEdge steel. I welcome all positive critique. Video 1Video 2As Jordan has mentioned the Laura Stamm video is excellent and everyone saying your skating on your heels is correct you are. When working with the instructors this is one of the first drills we use to establish proper profile. And your is having you lean back to far and as mentioned above you should be pushing from toe to blade center not off your heel. A proper profile would do wonders in solving this issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites