Koho Hockey skates!

[Acdc1294 0]

Hey guys any help I can get would be awesome. So for about 12 years I've been skating on the same skate, I stocked up on 3 to last me and now my last pair is shot..I skated with Koho revolution 2250 skates. Yes I know very old lol. Well I loved these skates, I had great speed and agility In them. Now that they r done I went out to shop for a new skate, I've only skates in composite once two years ago and they were vapors and I hated them. Couldn't even move. So I decided to get the rbz by ccm because apparently the boot is similiar. Well I suck in them. I got the 80s so they aren't quite the top end and still I can't skate well. It's only been maybe 3 hours of skating on them. Now my question is, do you think I'm just so used to that pTicular skate, is it the fact that it's leather to composite and I just can't adjust or is it the fact they are new and just not broken in. Should I get a new pair like grafs to mimic? I figure now a days it's all composite so I might as well learn to switch now instead of going leather again but my skating style is hurting from it. I figured All the pros wear it so it's just one of the those things you have to get used to. Any insight would be great. I also didn't lace the top eye on the ccms

[IPv6Freely 2096]

Did you get properly fitted when you bought them?

[Acdc1294 0]

Yes..yet they feel so not snug like leather skates

[jonesy9020 77]

Did you get them baked? RBZs mold really well with a bake and should be pretty snug. They are pretty boxy and will feel loose around the ankle without it. Baking is not optional in today's top-end and higher up skates, you have to do it.

[Davideo 99]

The composites are probably way stiffer. That in itself can make skating feel awkward or difficult, even if the fit is fine. Your "couldn't even move" with Vapors statement makes me guess that this is perhaps the reason. I struggled with the same transition and found not lacing the top eyelet allowed me a bit more forward flex and little bit less like I was skating with ankle casts on.

[stick9 896]

Its not an easy transition. Most of us have made that transition gradually, you are doing it all at once. It's a lot to get used to.

Nowadays fit is very important. If you think you have the proper fit and you've had the skate heat molded, you might just need some time to adapt. There is no 'give' to a composite boot like there is with leather. Your stride and stance will need to adjust.

[Neo5370 132]

Yes..yet they feel so not snug like leather skates

From what I remember the Koho skates were the precursor to the CCM Externos, and I think (but am not sure) that the CCM Vector carried on the same fit. If I am correct then you need a skate with a narrow heel and a standard/wider mid and forefoot, and shallow to standard depth. The first generation RBZ line definitely does not fit this description.

EDIT: If this is your fit profile then you might like the Graf 703 or 735s. These skates also have a softer quarter material (microfiber) so it should mimic your old skates much more than a composite boot.

[Acdc1294 0]

Yes I got them baked but just once. It seems to be a very different feel and I guess like you guys said it takes getting used to..I don't feel as fast or agile on them. Now this leads me to my next question of I should just try grafs since their leather or just suck it up and learn how to skate with composite. I just don't want to entirely change the way I skate, but I do know the technology and weight is there with composite

From what I remember the Koho skates were the precursor to the CCM Externos, and I think (but am not sure) that the CCM Vector carried on the same fit. If I am correct then you need a skate with a narrow heel and a standard/wider mid and forefoot, and shallow to standard depth. The first generation RBZ line definitely does not fit this description.

EDIT: If this is your fit profile then you might like the Graf 703 or 735s. These skates also have a softer quarter material (microfiber) so it should mimic your old skates much more than a composite boot.

This makes perfect sense actually to why the skate feels like it fits but I can't keep my heel in the skate. Is there a skate that you think would work better? Possibly the mako? Or do you think I should try the grafs you suggested? I know there older so that's why I ask. I do like the lightness of this skate but that's about all.

[Neo5370 132]

I have the same foot profile as you and have been using mostly 703's for the past few years. Tried to switch to 1st gen makos last year and the heel was too wide for me, though the rest of the skate is great. I've gone back to my grafs but it's up to you.

[Acdc1294 0]

I have the same foot profile as you and have been using mostly 703's for the past few years. Tried to switch to 1st gen makos last year and the heel was too wide for me, though the rest of the skate is great. I've gone back to my grafs but it's up to you.

Yeah than I would awesome the newer makos are the same. Did they ever take that ccm vectors profile and fit it to any other skate? Or just Graf from what you can find.

I have the same foot profile as you and have been using mostly 703's for the past few years. Tried to switch to 1st gen makos last year and the heel was too wide for me, though the rest of the skate is great. I've gone back to my grafs but it's up to you.

Yeah than I would assume the newer makos are the same. Did they ever take that ccm vectors profile and fit it to any other skate?

[Neo5370 132]

Yeah than I would assume the newer makos are the same. Did they ever take that ccm vectors profile and fit it to any other skate?[/quot

Not that I know of.

[Acdc1294 0]

When you guys say its a transition to composite skates, do you think you need to re teach your body to skate with the newer skates. I keep reading about players skating off their hips and not ankles

[Nealoc187 10]

post pictures of the steel. my bet is that your old skates have runners that are of a vastly different shape than the newer skates you've tried.