wickedwrister 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2005 I know Bauer/ Tuuk had issues with their perforated steel. Have any of you heard any problems with the newer CCM (ie. Vector and Pro Tacks)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted January 10, 2005 None at all. In fact, I haven't had one replaced all season, or last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wickedwrister 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2005 Thanks Jimmy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 1 Report post Posted January 10, 2005 When the Vector Pro came out last year they had SERIOUS issues with warped steel and with cracking outsoles. I don't know if this has changed in the meantime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 10, 2005 I get bent steel on vectors every day. Not many are fully broken but I have seen a lot with bent steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hehatemefrisbee 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2005 we had two with bent steel. Got them replaced, so no biggy, just a minor inconvenience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3804 Report post Posted January 10, 2005 In terms of them breaking, same as Jimmy, no problems. The difference is that there aren't any stress points in the CCM steel as it is cut from the top, not carved out of the middle like the Bauer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 10, 2005 we had two with bent steel. Got them replaced, so no biggy, just a minor inconvenience. I agree, but we don't sell them. When people come in for sharpenings and the steel is bent at a 20-25 degree angle coming out of the holder. Of course the local PIAS where they bought them say there's nothing wrong with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 If the steel is bent, it generally caused by incorrect holder mounting, not the steel itself. I just looked through my stockpile of replacement perf CCM steel and the 12 pairs of pro's I have in stock. None were bent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 11, 2005 If the steel is bent, it generally caused by incorrect holder mounting, not the steel itself. I just looked through my stockpile of replacement perf CCM steel and the 12 pairs of pro's I have in stock. None were bent. Incorrect mounting will cause it to warp, not lean over to one side. That's the problem I see on most of the Grafs and CCMs here. Skates that are one month old shouldn't be bent like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 Chadd,I haven't seen any leaning issues with new skates. Leaning is usually caused by skaters skating on the skates when the nuts are loose. I recommend shop employees tighten the hardware on every new skate. I find 90% of CCM nuts loose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 12, 2005 Chadd,I haven't seen any leaning issues with new skates. Leaning is usually caused by skaters skating on the skates when the nuts are loose. I recommend shop employees tighten the hardware on every new skate. I find 90% of CCM nuts loose. I'm already seeing it on skates that were x-mas presents. The PIAS "black tacks" are quite possibly one of the crappiest skates ever created. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 Chadd, what are you talking about???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 I'll take a pic of the next ones that come in. I'm talking about the steel bending and no longer being perfectly vertical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 I inspect every pair of new skates. I have not seen any CCM's with either bent or leaning blades. I also tighten ever blade on new skates. I'm not sure why you are seeing problems, I haven't had any with CCM's. The quality is very good, unlike Bauer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 I inspect every pair of new skates. I have not seen any CCM's with either bent or leaning blades. I also tighten ever blade on new skates. I'm not sure why you are seeing problems, I haven't had any with CCM's. The quality is very good, unlike Bauer. The quality hasn't been very good and that's why I don't sell them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 That's real strange, I've sold approx 2-300 Vectors of all models, and only one problem (top eyelet came out because coach tying kids skates pulled too hard). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 That's real strange, I've sold approx 2-300 Vectors of all models, and only one problem (top eyelet came out because coach tying kids skates pulled too hard). I'd say 1 in 4 vector buyers around here have had serious lace bite problems as well. Only a handful of bad eyelets on them. Nikes are the worst for eyelet problems around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey_player_11 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2005 NEWSFLASHMy left blade just snapped. I think the holder is cracked too. Dammit CCM, perfect timing too, I have an out of town tourney this weekend :S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy 194 Report post Posted January 14, 2005 hockey player 11,Sounds like a shot did it. Really can't blame CCM for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey_player_11 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2005 The crack on the holder might just be a knick, meaning it doesnt go all the way through. Plus, I noticed it way before the blade snapped. It couldnt have been a shot though, because I didn't take a shot off the foot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
