mission & factory Z

[jimmie 0]

Why did mission go with the factory Z-rated wheel instead of rink rat? Is it because of the weight in the wheels, other than that those wheels really suck.

[mik3 1]

I have to say, the first 2 or so times I skated on these wheels I hated them. Now I'd say they're better than my dynastys and hot shots I was using as my previous two sets of wheels.

[malcb33 97]

Hi, I was told the reason is because Joe Cook owns/co-owns or has something to do with Factory wheels!! :D

[Thockey17 1]

Hi, I was told the reason is because Joe Cook owns/co-owns or has something to do with Factory wheels!! :D

Cook doesnt own factory, Shayne Arsenault does. Im actually happy that the helium line came with factory wheels. I like them alot more than RR's/Dynasty's. Not to mention that Shayne is one of the nicest guys in all of the land

[Chupacabraz214 0]

I like them the first 5 minutes of my game after that.... ...

[Benchboy 0]

I saw one of the Factory Z-Rated wheels last at least 2 periods of a game before it seperated from the core and injured the player using them.

[Eazy_b97 1]

Cook doesnt own factory, Shayne Arsenault does.

I've had the pleasure of dealing with Shane, through E-mails only and he's definately a first class individual. As weird as it sounds, hFactory reminds me of Mission when they were a bit smaller, but I haven't dealt with Mission in a while.

[JR Boucicaut 3793]

I love Factory because they had beer in their booth in Vegas...

[Jim A 4]

Oh my god a wheel separated..holy moly...that never happens!!

sarcasm meter off..

this is the problem with boards sometimes...dis/misinformation like saying you heard Joe Cook owns part of Factory, which he doesn't, is just speculation..unfortunately you are doing so to thousands of people

The Z-Rated is a much different, wheel and not for everyone,but not a reason to not by a great skate like the 950's..most stores would likely swap them out for Halo's etc if needed..

I saw one of the Factory Z-Rated wheels last at least 2 periods of a game before it seperated from the core and injured the player using them.

Hi, I was told the reason is because Joe Cook owns/co-owns or has something to do with Factory wheels!!

[Hockey2 0]

I recently purchased a pair of the Mission 750's with the Factory Z Rated wheels. I switched the wheels for Labeda Gripper Lite Mini Core wheels (with BSB micro bearings) from my old skates. The mini core wheels didn't seem to fit quite right and were unable to spin in the chassis. I didn't have problems with these wheels on my previous CCM Outcasts. Are these skates not able to use micro wheels / bearings or is there another problem that could be causing this?

[Eazy_b97 1]

What Missions did you throw the mini-bearings in? Sounds like they came with standard bearings, but I'm not overly familiar with Mission products.

[Thockey17 1]

The he750's come with standard bearings. How old are the ccm's? CCM has been using Mini bearings for a while, so that could be a reason they fit in the ccm skates

[Hockey2 0]

My Mission 750's came with standard wheels / bearings. When I tried to replace them with micro wheels / bearings from my 2003 CCM's, they are too wide. It appears the Factor Z Rated wheels are narrow and other types of wheels may have a difficult time fitting in the chassis. Is this true or am I just doing something wrong?

[illpaseo116 0]

Someone posted very recently with the same problem on fitting other wheels on their 950's. I believe he was having trouble getting rinkrats in. Check posts from the last week or two and you should find it, i know a couple of people replied...

edit: heres the thread: http://www.modsquadhockey.com/index.php?showtopic=7810

[Chupacabraz214 0]

I did!!!

I'm sending my 950's back because of creases on the boot, BUT also because I think the chassis is defected.

The back wheels of both skates touch the chassis.

[Thockey17 1]

If you have old bearings around, try using them in the wheels if they dont fit with the bearings that came on the skates

I tried putting the ones from my 750's into Hornets and they didnt fit, so i took an old pair of BSB swiss and put them in the RR's. With the BSB Swiss in the RR's, they fit like a glove in both pairs of skates.

[Justin 1933 134]

What spacer were you guys using? That can make a big difference...

[Chupacabraz214 0]

What spacer were you guys using? That can make a big difference...

This ones Spacer

can I use the other type?

[malcb33 97]

this is the problem with boards sometimes...dis/misinformation like saying you heard Joe Cook owns part of Factory, which he doesn't, is just speculation..unfortunately you are doing so to thousands of people

If you think about what I wrote in my post?

Thats why I wrote "I was TOLD" not to say I know, but I could be posible!!!

[Benchboy 0]

Hey Justin

I have the original spacers that came with my D-Limiteds, floating spacers given to me by Rink Rat and the spacers from my old skates. With all these different spacers I still can't get my axles to stay tight.

I have to retighten my axles after every shift and if I stay out too long a wheel will fall out. If I do the axles up really tight then the wheels will not spin. This only happens with the new generation of wheels. I just put in a set of 2002 Millenium Grippers and they are fine.

Can you please offer me some advice as this is driving me nuts and I am considering buying a different pair of skates just so that I don't have this problem.

Thanks.

Matt.

[JR Boucicaut 3793]

this is the problem with boards sometimes...dis/misinformation like saying you heard Joe Cook owns part of Factory, which he doesn't, is just speculation..unfortunately you are doing so to thousands of people

If you think about what I wrote in my post?

Thats why I wrote "I was TOLD" not to say I know, but I could be posible!!!

Yes, but the way you put it is that you accepted it as fact.

If you weren't sure, you could've asked if that was the case...

[Jim A 4]

this is the problem with boards sometimes...dis/misinformation like saying you heard Joe Cook owns part of Factory, which he doesn't, is just speculation..unfortunately you are doing so to thousands of people

If you think about what I wrote in my post?

Thats why I wrote "I was TOLD" not to say I know, but I could be posible!!!

yes..and i could be TOLD that you suck as a hockey player but it doesn't mean I would have to come out here and say I was told you suck as a hockey player, when I've never seen you play...don't you think that would be a bit wrong of me??

see how stupid that is??

sorry..but one of the things that makes MSH what it is, is the ability to keep that stuff off the boards..

[MDE3 0]

Hey Justin

I have the original spacers that came with my D-Limiteds, floating spacers given to me by Rink Rat and the spacers from my old skates. With all these different spacers I still can't get my axles to stay tight.

I have to retighten my axles after every shift and if I stay out too long a wheel will fall out.  If I do the axles up really tight then the wheels will not spin. This only happens with the new generation of wheels. I just put in a set of 2002 Millenium Grippers and they are fine.

Can you please offer me some advice as this is driving me nuts and I am considering buying a different pair of skates just so that I don't have this problem.

Thanks.

Matt.

I am not Justin(he can handle the real problems lol), but maybe this info will help:

The problem isn't the skates, it's the wheels...over the years I have had some RR wheels, Hyper wheels, and Labeda wheels all with the same problem. This is where the center hub shoulder is too wide.

When this happens the outside race of the bearing "bottoms out" before the inner race can snug up tight to the spacer. This causes the bearings/wheels to bind. What usually happens is that the center wheel hub shoulder....the lip you see inside the wheel hub..... is more than .400" wide, because that is the standard width of a spacer. In wheels that bind, this usually ends up being .400" - 404" wide.

In wheels that have the correct shoulder width of slightly less than .400" you can "pop" the wheels back and forth slightly, if you cannot do this, you will be binding.

The specs call for that hub shoulder to be from .396" - .400" (technically ".400" +0.000", -.004") wide(or at least equal to or smaller than the width of a spacer), but sometimes the company which makes the plastic hubs get's the tolerances inverted and goes from .400" - .404"..this is what causes wheels to bind 99% of the time, although I have seen spacers that were wrong too, but not often.

Occasionally the two sides of the hub will not be perfectly in parellel, although the right width, this can also cause binding of the bearings when tightening, although I have seen this problem less frequently than the overwidth hub shoulder.

Solution...call RR and tell them you have hub binding problems, and they should replace the wheels.....(if they are not worn out)....I have had it happen, that with only minimal binding, the bearings will loosen up after a few skates, and allow you to tighten the wheels properly....but that's usually only when the hub shoulder is exactly .400" and there is just a hair of drag. I have also had it happen when two wheels in one batch are ok and the other two are tight...this is usually when the hub maker is trying to hit .400" "on the nose", and the slightest imperfection in their molds will cause a problem.

[Benchboy 0]

Thanks for the reply MDE3

I contacted Rink Rat about it, (nine months ago), and am still waiting to have the issue resolved.

In the meantime I bought some Labeda Dynasties but they are doing the same thing.

I just want to play Hockey without having to tighten my wheels EVERY shift.

[RINK RAT 15 0]

Call Me and I will take care of this for you...

401-946-4400 ext 3050

I apoligize if I was the one who dropped the ball on this...

Mike