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New Stick Technology - Unbreakable ?

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the technology however must have something interesting, or why was Easton so fast in securing it for themselves ?

So they could buy the recipe and lock it up forever! Why doesn't Eastom make the aluminum shaft even though their is a market for it? SImple, they sell one every 10 years instead of one a month. You do the math.

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I must be retarded, but what does du bist deutsch mean? LOL

Well probably not. I wouldn't know if I wasn't in German 2, but it means "you are German."

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If it's true, I don't see it being made.  Sticks have to have a failure point to break in case it got jammed between someone and a board or something of that nature.  No one wants impalings on the ice.

Yeah, I had a stick get caught under the boards and get my right in the chest as I was skating pretty fast, the blade completely snapped or I would have had some pretty major problems. I've also taken a stick to the throat that got caught on something, I wa on the ground for a good minute or two gasping for air.

An unbreakable stick seems good in theory, I'm just not sure it will ever happen.

EDIt: and oh yeah, Ich spreche ein bischen deutsch.

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oddly enough, for those that know golf equipment, the shafts are made exactly like golf shafts

there are 2 schools of golf shaft manufacturing.

1. get a big sheet of graphite, fuse it with glue, and roll it.

2. get a long string of graphite, fuse it with glue and wrap it around an object.

also know as filament wound.

golf industry has gone back and forth as to which method is better.

at first it was filament wound, but consistency was difficult to achieve, so it was more popular to roll them, and now its back to filament wound, where they insert boron etc.. to give it less twist.

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I thought Marcelo commented about an unbreakable TPS stick they had. The possibility was there, but it defeats the purpose of an OPS, creates a dangerous amosphere and would be difficult to market. This is what I remember, it may not be fact, but for some reason this whole thread bring this back for me.

Actually, my comment at the time was that I believed (and still believe) that any of the companies could make an "unbreakable", or, "more durable" stick, HOWEVER...

a.) how much would the consumer pay for it, knowing that the marketplace will push roughly $199-209 with Stealth Grip and Adrenaline?

b.) what is the heaviest the stick could weigh, and yet, still be light enough for performance purposes?

c.) would the rules allow for such a product?

I have all of Keith Tkachuk's TriCORE shafts that were made for him back for the 2000-01 season and I know that the testing machine was broken while testing was being done to check breakage on the shaft. The catch here is that the shafts weigh 425g!!!

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Guest Marcelo Cordoba
Whats the flex on the Tkachuk TriCOREs?

There isn't any flex in them! They are stiffer than rebar!

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I have to agree with Jimmy on this one! Easton is in business to make money. They do that by charging 5X what they should on sticks, and have us poor jamocks buy new ones every 3 months. When their sticks broke EVERY month, people complained and started looking at other sticks, so they improved their process just enough so that the complaining stopped. I am sure that when they heard about some new technology, they wanted to make sure that a competitor did not sign it up. They may use this new stuff to further inflate the price of their sticks, but be assured that they will screw up the process just enough so the sticks still break or wear out quickly.

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I forget who said it... but they need to break...how much pressure they can take is the question.

and why would they want a non-breakable stick, makes no business sense..

Companies buy the recipies for great products from smaller places liek this all the time... sometimes its the best R&D. Keeps the competition from getting it..-wether they use it or not

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I have to agree with Jimmy on this one! Easton is in business to make money. They do that by charging 5X what they should on sticks, and have us poor jamocks buy new ones every 3 months. When their sticks broke EVERY month, people complained and started looking at other sticks, so they improved their process just enough so that the complaining stopped. I am sure that when they heard about some new technology, they wanted to make sure that a competitor did not sign it up. They may use this new stuff to further inflate the price of their sticks, but be assured that they will screw up the process just enough so the sticks still break or wear out quickly.

They don't make as much on the sticks as you tend to think. Please don't bring that argument up around here. Several of us on the BB know EXACTLY what they cost to make.

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I thought Marcelo commented about an unbreakable TPS stick they had. The possibility was there, but it defeats the purpose of an OPS, creates a dangerous amosphere and would be difficult to market. This is what I remember, it may not be fact, but for some reason this whole thread bring this back for me.

Actually, my comment at the time was that I believed (and still believe) that any of the companies could make an "unbreakable", or, "more durable" stick, HOWEVER...

a.) how much would the consumer pay for it, knowing that the marketplace will push roughly $199-209 with Stealth Grip and Adrenaline?

b.) what is the heaviest the stick could weigh, and yet, still be light enough for performance purposes?

c.) would the rules allow for such a product?

I have all of Keith Tkachuk's TriCORE shafts that were made for him back for the 2000-01 season and I know that the testing machine was broken while testing was being done to check breakage on the shaft. The catch here is that the shafts weigh 425g!!!

Sorry Marcelo, I knew it was along those lines, I'm glad you were able to clarify.

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