sundinleafs137 13 Report post Posted April 5, 2005 We have a regular highspeed cable in my house, It was professionally installed through the walls and ceiling etc. My brother and myself both have Sony PSP's now and I've learned that in order to play WiFi that you have to have a wireless router hooked up. The question is, how is a router usually hooked up like setup wise? Will I have to take out the normal cable I have now or is it just a matter of taking out the wires that go into the PC and plugging them into the router? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted April 5, 2005 The wireless router can be set up between your cable modem and any computers you have currently connected. Just make sure you get a router that has ports for network cables as well as the wireless ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MNdgame 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2005 Does anybody have wireless and if so have you had any problems with things like phones or anything interfering? Or even you neighbors signals or anything like that? Just curious and didnt want to start a new topic.Also Chadd is right make sure you buy one that has wireless and network cables. Its always a good idea even if you are going mostly wireless. I'd research the different kinds too because it can get expensive switching over to wireless with buying a card for all of your computers and the router... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vapor 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2005 Does anybody have wireless and if so have you had any problems with things like phones or anything interfering? Or even you neighbors signals or anything like that? Just curious and didnt want to start a new topic.Also Chadd is right make sure you buy one that has wireless and network cables. Its always a good idea even if you are going mostly wireless. I'd research the different kinds too because it can get expensive switching over to wireless with buying a card for all of your computers and the router... Most Routers are set the channel 5, its usualy the standard in the 1 ghz band. Most Wireless phones use channel 9. You can easily change this by logging into your router. Usually there is no intereference. If you are going to by a wireless router, I, of course suggesst a Linksys Router. http://www.linksys.com/products/product.as...cid=35&prid=670 I would sugesst the SRX, range is 750 (approx) which is triple the rnage of the standard G router. Great router. Your router wont interfere with your neighbors network, but you may be able to login to theirs or vice versa. Set up some 128 wep and you will be fine (thats unless you get somebody who knows nething about nething). I suggesst setting up WPA if your scared of somebody getting onto your network though. Anyways.... Im jsut ranting, If I answered a question, great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MNdgame 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2005 haha yeah that helps. Also if I plug a wireless card into my computer I think I can get into 2 or 3 of my neighbors networks, haha. I wonder why I pay for internet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2005 gotta love piracy B) lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyherb 1 Report post Posted May 5, 2007 Does anyone know if wireless routers go bad after a while?So I've had this Netgear router for over a year (which isn't too long, right?) but in the past week I've had issues throughout the day where my wireless connection starts breaking up. I have an indicator on my tool bar which shows that I lose connection, then it comes back right away, then I lose connection again, and so on for a few minutes at a time. It's annoying because I lose my VPN connection and can't access my company sites.If I plug in my ethernet cord I don't lose my signal so I'm guessing it's not my ISP dropping.It's also not that I'm too far away. The desk I work on is only 5 feet from my router and this has worked fine in the past.I'm about ready to just replace the router but if anyone has any ideas that would be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Emerick 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2007 Does anyone know if wireless routers go bad after a while?They can go bad just like any other electronic device.However your dropping connection could be caused by interference from a microwave or cordless phone or anything else that operates in the same spectrum as your wireless router. You may want to try and change the channel of your wireless router and see if that helps? maybe even do a hard reset on the router as well?As far as the original question, there are many ways to set up a wireless router or access point. If you have several computers already connected on a network i am sure that you already have a router somewhere in the house, may be built into the cable modem itself. So one option would be to just replace that router with a wireless router such as the linksys WRT54G which i have used for years without issue. The WRT54G has a WAN port which you would connect a CAT-5 cable from your modem to and then 4 additional LAN ports which you could connect the wired network to.Another option would be to connect the WAN port of the wireless router to your existing network, creating a second network in effect.Yet another option would be to either buy just a plain Wireless Access point and connect it to the existing network or configure the new wireless router to be a wireless access point by connecting it to the existing network via one of the four LAN ports and disabling/enabling some features on the router...Im not the best at explaining everything so if you have any other questions feel free to let me know...J! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daca 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2007 have a few of these and they work perfectly. linksys wrt54g. should give you everything you need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vapor 0 Report post Posted May 6, 2007 get a pre-n router. faster than wired connection, longer range, more gooder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyherb 1 Report post Posted May 6, 2007 I haven't changed anything that I use in my office in a long time. Same cordless phone, and no other electronic items have been introduced for a long time. I'm guessing maybe my router is going. They're so cheap now it's not a bad solution to replace it anyway.I have a Mac downstairs that I also use with my wireless router. It has always dropped signals a couple of times a day which means I have to do a soft or hard reboot of my router to get connection back. Would the Pre-N router work with a Mac? (It's a G5 with the latest OS X on it) Do you think getting the Apple Airport would work better overall, considering I have one Mac, one XP machine? More range would be a help for me since I find there are some pockets in my house that I lose signal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gummer12 134 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 Adding to the conv...I'm looking to get a Wi-Fi for my rink. I understand the G and B formats, but what is the N? Are there any new formats coming that I should be aware of? Or will an N or G be sufficient for a fair amount of time? We already have a Linksys Wired router, and instead of just swapping it, I was thinking of adding on to it, so we have more wired connection capabilities. In doing so, does it matter what one I have in line ahead of the other? (i.e. from Modem, to router/wireless router, to computers?) Now for the legal mumbo jumbo. If your rink offers Wi-Fi, do they charge for the password? If so, do they do it yearly, monthly, per visit, etc..? Do they make you sign a code of conduct or any other type of release/waiver? I was thinking about $20 for the seasonal password, with some sort of a code of conduct waiver. Is that a fair price? or should it be higher or lower? BTW, If anyone has some sort of waiver I could 'copy', I would greatly appreciate it. PM me for email. Any other thoughts would also be welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyherb 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 Can you give some more info about why you want to get Wifi for your rink? Is it mostly for customers to use while they watch their kids, for example? If you hope to bring in more people due to them being able to work/play on a laptop while their kids skate, then I'd suggest not charging for the service. It's sort of like how coffee shops give it away free because they want you to buy some coffee and sit a while (and buy another coffee, and a muffin, then a coffee to go...)I'm pretty sure you need to have some sort of legal page up front to protect yourself in case some scumbag decides to use your free wifi to launch anything nefarious. Not that it will stop them, but at least it might offer some protection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lufria 1 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 I set up the network for our rink as well, and we offer public WI-FI to everyone for $15 a year. They simply come up to the desk and we give them the credentials to login to our network. That legal page you refer to is the contract they sign when they get the credentials.One thing you're going to have to consider is how big your rink is, and what kind of stuff you have setup on your network. Are their shared printers? maybe shared files, or a server in the building? If so, you may want to get someone who knows how to set file permissions and etc for security.A Pre-N Router, although not necessary, has much better broadcast range and has a much stronger signal then any B/A/or G router, given that your computer is setup for it. Again, that all depends how big the rink is. Our building houses one rink, with a mini rink in the back, and the WRT54G from Linksys just barely cuts it back there. Our locker rooms are all downstairs as well, so wi-fi doesn't reach areas around there either.Edit:Can't spell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gxc999 7 Report post Posted January 31, 2008 Adding to the conv...I'm looking to get a Wi-Fi for my rink. I understand the G and B formats, but what is the N? Are there any new formats coming that I should be aware of? Or will an N or G be sufficient for a fair amount of time? We already have a Linksys Wired router, and instead of just swapping it, I was thinking of adding on to it, so we have more wired connection capabilities. In doing so, does it matter what one I have in line ahead of the other? (i.e. from Modem, to router/wireless router, to computers?) N is just newer and faster. It's basically only been adopted by larger businesses at this point. The prices on it will eventually come down, once it becomes standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gummer12 134 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 Okay, I just got a new Wireless N Router for our rink, hooked up, and ready to go. Now, I have the password set up, but is there a way I can set it up, so when we charge someone, they don't just go tell everyone what the password is. We don't have a large bandwidth, so in order to upgrade, I wanna charge for access to offset the cost of upgrading, I'm thinking 15-20 bucks per PC per season. Also, if someone has a copy of a Good Code of Conduct Waiver they can send me, let me know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3802 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 It'll be impossible to police that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 Can you set up multiple passwords? Give each user a unique password, but limit them to one connection at a time. They may tell others what THEIR password is...but will still only be able to connect to it one at a time...saving your bandwith.I have no idea if you can even do that with a wireless router...I'm just thinking like an FTP/web server or something...if it is similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Juice_Slowjamz 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 Okay, I just got a new Wireless N Router for our rink, hooked up, and ready to go. Now, I have the password set up, but is there a way I can set it up, so when we charge someone, they don't just go tell everyone what the password is. We don't have a large bandwidth, so in order to upgrade, I wanna charge for access to offset the cost of upgrading, I'm thinking 15-20 bucks per PC per season. Also, if someone has a copy of a Good Code of Conduct Waiver they can send me, let me know.Maybe you can filter IP addresses? I don't know much about the subject, maybe someone else can elaborate.EDIT- I was thinking something like limit the amount of available IP addresses to the number of people who've paid, lock in those mac addresses and just add additional IPs as people sign up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Harris 31 Report post Posted June 23, 2008 We don't have a large bandwidth, so in order to upgrade, I wanna charge for access to offset the cost of upgrading, I'm thinking 15-20 bucks per PC per season.I can't imagine too many people willing to pay that amount, considering there are quite a few places that people can access for free. Libraries generally have computers to use. Coffee shops generally have free Wi-Fi in exchange for buying a drink, although one has to bring his own laptop. People with data plans on their cellphones can access the net on the phone or use it as a modem. Others park their car wherever and try to find accessible accounts.My suggestion to you is hold a survey to determine what type of usage you'd get, because I think you'd have to lower your prices to attract users. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3802 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 A lot of rinks in MI have hotspots and they are not free.RDV here in town has it and it's free - but yeah, I guess you need to figure out your bandwidth and determine what to charge, or not at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 Also, if someone has a copy of a Good Code of Conduct Waiver they can send me, let me know.I have a couple that I wrote when I was doing the IT thing, I'll try and dig them up when I get home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 Okay, I just got a new Wireless N Router for our rink, hooked up, and ready to go. Now, I have the password set up, but is there a way I can set it up, so when we charge someone, they don't just go tell everyone what the password is. We don't have a large bandwidth, so in order to upgrade, I wanna charge for access to offset the cost of upgrading, I'm thinking 15-20 bucks per PC per season. Also, if someone has a copy of a Good Code of Conduct Waiver they can send me, let me know.Maybe you can filter IP addresses? I don't know much about the subject, maybe someone else can elaborate.EDIT- I was thinking something like limit the amount of available IP addresses to the number of people who've paid, lock in those mac addresses and just add additional IPs as people sign up.You can do that if you're using a server as a DHCP server, I would assume that some of the wireless routers have the same functionality but I couldn't say for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rylake 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2008 I haven't changed anything that I use in my office in a long time. Same cordless phone, and no other electronic items have been introduced for a long time. I'm guessing maybe my router is going. They're so cheap now it's not a bad solution to replace it anyway.I have a Mac downstairs that I also use with my wireless router. It has always dropped signals a couple of times a day which means I have to do a soft or hard reboot of my router to get connection back. Would the Pre-N router work with a Mac? (It's a G5 with the latest OS X on it) Do you think getting the Apple Airport would work better overall, considering I have one Mac, one XP machine? More range would be a help for me since I find there are some pockets in my house that I lose signal.Just try updating your firmware on the router, sounds weird but router can be finicky little bitches. Just go to the manufacturers site - they will have the most recent firmware availablefor your specific router. I would at least give it a shot before dropping dough on a new one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gummer12 134 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Also, if someone has a copy of a Good Code of Conduct Waiver they can send me, let me know.I have a couple that I wrote when I was doing the IT thing, I'll try and dig them up when I get home.Any luck finding anything Suitable for a County run facility? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
