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FT6 Pro: 10 3/16" so my 0.25" guesstimate was just about spot on Catalyst Pro: 10" on the dot from the floor to the top edge of the cuff The spot heating/wrapping idea was what I had planned to do next. Like I said, I did this method previously although I baked the entire skate. Might ask the help of a friend to try and coax the cuff in a bit more. I think your last comment is probably most accurate and what I was expecting. Just figured there are so many players here that use multiple skates, including True, that I figured someone would have experience with it.