Kgbeast

Yes it will. On PeakSpeed skates, cobra holders are mounted with rivets from factory.

Chara, from what I gather, wears size 11.6 skates. So that chap in the pick definitely has one on Chara... Size 15 skates, size 17 say in shoes.... Baby feet comparing to Shaq's 22. Good think he s not skating, that would have been a weird looking skate fo sure :).

Plus you are not exceptional, you are more likely to pick up a few chirps on the way...

Doubtful Bauer would agree that it is the holder issue since the LS4 steel fits right and snug.

@Zac911 implied or even stated in some previous posts that two piece goalie skates and player skates use exactly the same holder. The blades however are different to make them flatter and have more contact front and back like goalie skates traditionally are expected to be. The holder toe cutouts are visible in the players holder and are basically knock-outs.

As you might know all sharp edges (knives, scalpels, etc) are not actually smooth but look like a crappy saw under microscope. The finer the stone, the smoother edge it will produce (assuming the steel will allow). Useful in cutting instrumented, perhaps not so much in skates, but in principle it can extend life of the edge normal wear by some margin as sawteeth are easier to wear off than a smoother edge. I doubt the benefits will be noticeable in average skating. Obviously cosmetics is the other aspect. Coarse stones are for honing regular steel with brushed look. It is fast and when it scratches the steel, you can not really notice that anyway. You would want to go to finer grit stones if you deal with mirror finish and coated blades where the scratches and abrasions will be an eyesore, but finer stones would take more time to remove burrs.

Purpose of the quote in this context is quite illustrative, but attribution to Ford (assuming Henry Ford) is arguable at best.

It looks to me that he fluffs everything that comes across his desk. I kind of dismissed him for a demagogue. I like watching his unboxings, but take everything he says with a grain of salt as they say.

Someone said, the cup is there to protect the carbon fiber where it makes a sharp corner.

I pay for NHL.TV subscription because I like how things are organized and presented to me. Kind of like Hulu or Netflix. Price perhaps a bit high, but if you are real sports fanatic, you'd pay double that, so I get the demand/supply part of this. Once you pay the subscription. getting locked out of some games is pretty rediculous, but I see how networks can demand that and NHL has to agree. I am glad however that NHL seems to do a bare minimum enforce the geolocation thing.

I like the tech as well (although was a bit of a looker for weak points at first ).My personal appreciation is that with these holders you are no longer fixed to a profile/pitch. You can be on your toes or heels as needed. I guess one thing that might be a bit of adjustment is with these "small" assists, like heel digs and toe carves (or whatever they are called), but it is likely that these holders will have other tricks in their sleeve. Skilled players always find what they can do with whatever they have. it will be interesting to see if these holders will have an obvious impact on the NHL. ... on the other note, I have not seeing how easy or hard it is to swap the runners on those, and how easy or hard for the holder to get destroyed by a hard shot or a run into the boards. These two things are pretty important for NHL player as well.

Step have not been making the holder for longer than about a year or two. But it is pretty evident that they base the design on Graf Cobra holders. By the way, I am not saying this just because where the retainer screw is, I am actually comparing the runners. In the front, you have an oversize "fin" similar to LS2 or LS3, or Graf, they all basicaly the same with Graf being the largest, LS2 a little smaller, Edge the smallest, but because of the triangular shape, there is no real stress point, so all those should be very strong (and are). If you look at the rear. LS2 and Graf as well as the VH, have a "claw" which receives the retainer lug. Graf and VH runner are basically identical at the rear end, LS3 has a slightly different design. Both sides of the claw are the same and have very small amount of "meet" at the top and are fairly narrow. They are under the retainer screw stress straight up. A good impact in the right space, either snaps one of the off or the lug simply breaks through out from the claw sending the runner flying (as seeing in about a dozen cases during 2015-2016 NHL season and prior). If you look at this claw in Garf or VH, you see that the stress is on the angle, in addition to it, tehre is much more meat on the top half of the claw and the bottom half is basically the runners body and is unbreakable. If you look at Edge, it does not have claw, but instead has a "dog-leg" with fairly pronounced knee which is also is the likely fracture point (any sharp angle in still creates one). Once again, a right impact sends that runner flying (as seeing in a number of incidents during 2016-2017 NHL season). Add ti that a possible wobble problem and it is kind of a compromise between integrity and convenience of quick replacement. Now those are just my observations and opinions, not a certain fact or anything, but the only way I know Graf loose their runners, is after the retainer screw is vibrated unscrewed and out (which I believe is addressed by VH design). Here is the little picture for visual (blacks are the Graf runners, which are also would cover nicely for VH runner whose image I do not have handy)

I do not know, but I would suspect that in the vision of Scott and the rest of the VH propeller-heads, the combination of VH boot and VH holder would produce an optimum performance (hence they have that available and it is at least implied if not stated). NHL's fascination with Edge holder comes down to simply the convenience of replacing the blades and to Larry's point, NHL has a much different rotation cycle for the holders and blades (or the entire skates for that matter) than an armature player. Looking at the design of both holders/runners, it is pretty obvious that if you get a hefty slapshot in the blade, the VH holder/blade will most likely survive, while Edge will most likely require a surgery. On the other hand how often you get a stiff shot in the holders?

... just not because it is monoframe, is the point, but nice words catching

Think about it... It's a boot, not a car. It can not make anything faster. You might be faster and more maneuverable because it is more comfortable and perhaps for some, because it is more supportive, but that would little to do with if it is one-piece or many-piece boot. The boot that will make you faster could be any boot as long as it makes you faster .

Brandon Dubinsky is now flopping VH tongues.

I guess he believes on the inside that cowlingless can give him advantage, but he just can not figure out how. His problem is probably lays in boots being too stiff and holder too high. Some skaters live off the boot give, some wish there was none. Not sure if Price will find his way to the cowlingless this time around, but True have got another guy on board, Boone Jenner.

watch preseason game yesterday ando noticed that more Blue Jackets added to True ranks. Matt Calvert is a new one this year from old line, plus a handful of new commers. It looks like Bobrovski is looking into a change. He was in VH boot and CCM cowling last year, but it looks like he is sporting a one piece VH goalie now.

look like painters boots... but then again, there are designers and then, there are hockey players.

tongue is basically the same design as on his brown winter classics ccm skates from 15/16 season.

how thick do you want them to be?

Yes, but it also has reinforced and reshaped toecap, different hight of the boot on the inside vs outside, soft comfort edge around the top including tendon v-cut (or whatever it is called). It also has extra protection on the inner side bottom of the boot, boot heel protection (from banging on the posts), more flexible upper edge of the boot. As I said, it is not that the VH goalie skate I saw on the display is bad, it is just feels underdesigned. Maybe less is more, and commonly it is, but for some reason Bauer (as an example) has bothered to add all of these features and went to a length to design the goalie holder.

When I grabbed the skate off the display, I thought I was holding players skate, until I saw the weird runner setup. Then I noticed that tendon guard is basicaly just gone. Looks to much of a retrofit, as if one took players skates, cut off the tendon guard, and grinded the rocker of the runner leaving what it looks like less than half an inch of steel in the middle (does not look promissing for sparx). I'd say if you order those, send bauer holder in if you think that cowlings are thing of the past. Also as a separate question to you as a goalie, does that rim atop of the toe area tears the edge of the pads up, or the cowling on your current skates covers it enough to protect the pads? so yes, boot is identicle, but as a goalie skate package, it seems a bit under designed.

I have stopped by monkeys ports and they have true display. It says that boot only costs $110 less, so yes it looks like there is a discount, but obviously, they might charge a mounting fee, which is not mentioned. I liked the holder much more in person than on the photographs here. Dimples are kind of not as in your face. Actually liked the holes cut out. Nice solid feel to the way the runners are in. Very solid feel for the holders overall. Gloves are pretty nice too. The display is pretty good. Goalie skates - meh, bug if they work, they work I guess.

Not sure if there is a discount on holders or not (probably not as that would make most sense from standpoint of promoting more VH product out), but, I think it would help VH if they'd let you have the VH holders and steel regardless if you opted out or not and offer no discounts. So even if you opted to send Tuuks in, they would mount the Tuuks on the skates and sent you the VH holders and Steel on the side. This way, you can put those in if you change your mind later, or sell them rinkside or whatever. My logic on this is that in a short period of time, there will be loads of random skaters with VH holders simply because people wanted to try the holders and were able to get them from Ebay or rinkside for cheap. Lots of them will love the holders and this creates a pool of future customers that will go with VH holders plus it creates stronger brand awareness. This can be pretty efficient way to take over a market share from other holders/steel manufacturers or at least make a small dent in the competitors revenues while creating VH holders culture. StepSteel will benefit from this as they will sell more steel this way.