P90TM Curve

[P90TM Curve]

I was just looking for the same combo in the team stick, only hockeymonkey had any.

[Hyperlite skates… live up to the hype?]

Not to derail too much but the key to innovation isn’t just the solution, it’s identifying the problem to solve.  So I wonder what are the key problems for different pieces of equipment that actually need addressed?  Does it actually matter if they keep shaving fractions of ounces off skates?  I still think there is opportunity for helping improve fit.  I think profiling has promise and has made incremental strides but at this point has not been implemented well.  Very little data, no ability to actually match the correct profile to a skater.  More curve options for sticks without custom prices, available on more price points would be pretty big to some people.  Other than that I don’t know.

[Hyperlite skates… live up to the hype?]

You don’t have to invent a material to innovate with it.  The vast majority of companies are leveraging tech developed by outside orgs and creating products with them.  Invention and innovation aren’t synonymous, just look at the Segway.

[Under Lacing Vs Over Lacing]

It’s been brought up before, but it makes no difference for lace bite as it doesn’t reduce pressure as the lace crosses the tongue.  In both lacing methods, at the midpoint between the facings as the lace crosses one half of the lace is going up and over and one half is heading under, it just changes the order.

If you could get an over/over pattern, that could alleviate some pressure.  You could either do this by going outside in then bringing the laces up the same side under the facing and then inside out before crossing them again.  This would eliminate one cross plus create an outside/ outside above and below but may change the way the skate feels, you would have to experiment.

You could also do a single inside-outside, cross, outside-inside which would give relief in that specific area.

Theoretically those hiking boot type D-ring eyelets would enable outside/outside but I have never seen that and don’t know if it would even be possible.

[Ellipse Profiles – The next revolution in skate profiling?]

Problem solved, we are soon going to have Quad Ellipses!!!!  Smooth transitions between different size ellipses along the blade...  then people will be more confused than they are now! 

[prostockhockeysticks]

51 minutes ago, Hills said:

So is all of the major hockey influencer accounts but NHLPA doesn't go after them.

Every single account that uses an NHLPHA member's likeness should be targeted in the same manner, but it isn't. Those accounts use the likeness of the members to grow themselves and sell merch or ad spots, this account probably got a member or a member's sponsor pissed off so they are going after them.

OK, but different argument.  The statement was made that it was a fan page, it clearly is the marketing arm of a business.

[prostockhockeysticks]

The Instagram page is clearly a business page, not little Johnny's fan page.

[Quad .5 losing grip]

I think there too many variables in skating for ProSharps general platitudes to hold true for most people.  Everything from body type, skating mechanics (for all different skating scenarios), leg strength, etc.  Just like the “agility” and “power” labels they are assigning to skate families.  They have rolled these out the last few years with a poor go to market plan IMO.  
 

Secondly, I would think if you are going to experiment, off-season is probably the best time to do it.

As much as I think the majority of profiling is BS, I do have to admit thinking about it for my son but always resist the urge to change.  He’s in Bauer Supreme with a 9/10 profile and has been for years. There is so much he can work on to get better that I think keeping this variable constant is best.

[prostockhockeysticks]

I think @PBH has tried them and likes them, maybe he will chime in.

[building ankle strength]

3 hours ago, Vet88 said:

McJesus doing his stuff again, those 2 lateral crossovers as he enters the zone are what do the damage, now he has more speed than any of the 4 players in front of him and he just blows past them. Yes, he has great hands and great balance and all those other attributes but the ability to go from slow to fast in just a couple of steps is what elevates him beyond any other player atm.

 

So after all this discussion, I need a refresher on the definition of a lateral crossover.  What I see him doing is skating parallel to the blue line, making a 90 degree right turn with two crossovers (which to me is just a traditional crossover) and then once he is facing the goal never crosses his feet again.  My impression of a lateral crossover was it was generally applied without the primary purpose of changing direction (although it will create some lateral displacement).  What am I missing here?

[Quad .5 losing grip]

If the kid is doing well at the level he is playing at, maybe it’s best just to stick with what is working.  I firmly believe there’s less magic in these profiles than some would have you believe.

[Ellipse Profiles – The next revolution in skate profiling?]

I think they just needed to come up with descriptors, they aren’t based on evidence.  The real disconnect is between the average player and any understanding of how the hell to choose a profile.  

[2021-2022 Gear Sightings]

On 10/27/2021 at 3:42 PM, flip12 said:

I don't want to derail but to me, that is my favorite era of hockey equipment.  Looks like Bauer 1000s, CCM HT2, and those Ferland's would have been on my dream list when I was in my teens.

[Coaching 5-6 years old: teaching the game]

Depends first on the size of the organization.  We picked a large org because they had enough teams for red, white, and blue adm.  they have in-house up to 14 years old with multiple divisions by skill level.  If that isn’t possible then at least divide them into like skill groups for practice.  It’s also not linear, kids progress very differently, two months from now the pecking order could be very different.

At the end of the day, for 5-6 year olds games aren’t really important, nor is structure.  They play to learn, not learn to play so to speak.

[Are hockey players more susceptible to marketing?]

Meta,

There are a lot of people who have been on here a long time and get along to make this place worthwhile to visit.  Many bring experience from the hockey equipment world you aren't going to find anywhere else.  While every once in a while things get misinterpreted or people may cross the line a bit, it is an extremely rare occurrence.  This is not like the majority of places on the internet where people treat each other like garbage from behind their keyboards.  I would suggest if you want to take part in the discussions here and have people take you seriously, stop calling people names and acting like you have in this thread.

[Are hockey players more susceptible to marketing?]

9 hours ago, Meta said:

You're a Boomer, aren't you?  That's some A+ thick-skulled Boomer unwarranted condescension right there.  Hats off to that level of just "not getting it" my man.  

Calling someone a boomer is 1) THE laziest argument around and 2) one of the most pathetic forms of condescension there is.

You posted an opinion, not a factual argument, and people disagreed with you after you asked for their thoughts.  You don’t like the opinion so you attack the person.  That’s some A+ immaturity right there.

[Are hockey players more susceptible to marketing?]

caveman27 summed it up nicely so I won't repeat what he said.

My input is I don't see the guys I play with act like this, most guys have older gear, replaced when it wears out or whatever.  Some guys are hanging onto stuff that should be taken out and shot.  Lastly, at this point in my life, if I want to blow money on a top end stick or skates I don't give a rat's ass what other people say.  I don't, but if I did it's up to me.  Same with music, I know there is diminishing returns on instruments over a certain price point, but if for some reason I wanted an expensive guitar or amp or whatever, it's nobody else's business.

 

[Proper Faceoff Procedure]

Not the lowest bar, I won't complain as long as both teams have 5 players on the right side of the puck.

[Why you shouldn't lace up tight.]

3 hours ago, stick9 said:

Who was it that came up with lacing all the way to the top but skip the second from the top?  It works way better than I expected.

Not sure who brought it up but Crosby is known for it.

[TRUE TF9/TF7 skates]

On 8/1/2021 at 4:46 AM, rinkrat94 said:

Thank you 

Also available at Home Depot or Lowes, probably where you find the moving stuff, bubble wrap, boxes, etc.

[Why you shouldn't lace up tight.]

Good read, would be interesting to see some measurement of the stretch shortening cycle for skating vs. running.

Joe DeFranco tests athletes’ counter movement jump (utilizing stretch shortening) vs. their static jump to determine whether they are utilizing their stored energy or relying on more muscular strength and then adjusts training accordingly.

[Best steel goal/home shooting setups]

I just got the EZ Goal, my brother has it as well.  He has a bomb of a shot and his is holding up.  My shot is average but I was disappointed that the posts did dent a bit when I hit them.  Overall i think it will be fine.

The Arizona Sports Equipment ones are really nice but couldn’t justify it.

[Hyperlite player skates]

Voice to text?

[Skate profiling, and why would it help me?]

Its all opinion.  Thousands of top level skaters in history started on whatever random shape the blade came out of the box, continued with whatever shape it morphed into through repeated sharpenings, and then back to another random profile when they got new skates.  
 

What may seem intuitive may in fact be correct or it may end up being wrong.  There are lots of examples where people have success doing the opposite of “conventional wisdom”.

Until you have a body of actual data, it will continue to be opinion-based.

[Skate profiling, and why would it help me?]

3 hours ago, Beflar said:

There have been some studies.  I'm sure some people here will be able to point you in the right direction.  

Two things I took away from the one study was: 1) Just because you feel better doesn't mean you are skating better.  Thought that was kinda interesting.  It was why they had to measure change versus feeling it.

2)  I think out of the profiles they tested (they only tested a few) they found the dual profile 9.5'-10.5' to have the best results which is a lot like the Quad 0.5 which is a 8-10-12-14 profile.

I am aware of the studies and have followed everything everyone here who has experience has posted.  I just don't think they are using data to develop the profiles otherwise they would be able to prescribe them better or present evidence as to why one was better period or in a certain context or for a particular skater.  I haven't found a cohesive explanation.  Think about mom and little Joey who buy new skates and get upsold a profile, they are going to go with whatever is suggested without a clue of what they are buying.