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20 minutes ago, Paddy said:If it stays that way, it may put a hurting on the no name undercutting stick companies that sell direct to consumer. Same price, with a big name behind one; i know who I'd pick. I don't break sticks, so warranties mean very little, but the warranty policy from the no names is also pretty terrible from what i read.
Yeah there's no way anyone should really pick No Name at this point. STX bringing all of their research and technology for this price point is a way better value. Plus, free shipping and no risk 14 day trial.
I'm most excited about the new Surgeon protectives though. Can't wait for reviews. How do they actually compare to what's offered by Bauer/CCM/Warrior?
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Wow, these are some of the best looking gear I've laid my eyes on. STX is really on point with their design. Good thing they moved to a black base material - white gear stains so quickly and feels dirtier. IMO I think the Surgeon line is superior to the Stallion line.
In addition, does their online store have a massive error right now? Everything looks incredibly underpriced. For example, the new RX3 is showing up as $175. Shoulders are $110, etc. These are enormous price decreases from their previous top-of-the-line items.
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On 8/8/2018 at 11:34 PM, JR Boucicaut said:Not ready to profile yet. Stay tuned.
Not sure if this is feasible or not, but it would be really great if there's something in the pro shop where we can pay to rent a set of popular pre-profiled runners to try out. Not sure how the payment would work to ensure people return the set, but maybe some sum of deposit would be required.
For most people like me, profiling is something you go into blind and hope for the best. I would love to try out a few runners to see how they feel in person prior to mailing my runners to get them profiled.
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16 minutes ago, mojo122 said:A competent sharpener can blend the toe and heel to have similar geometry to LS2 and LS4 steel. If you're not sure about whether you trust someone in your area to do it right then the MSH Pro Shop is an option.
Hmm I don't see profiling being available on the MSH Pro Shop, just sharpening. Is there somewhere else on the website I'm missing and do you know how much it would they be if it's an unlisted service?
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5 hours ago, stick9 said:I had the same issues when I switched over from LS2. The shop I went to recommend a simple dual profile (Pro Sharp Toronto 2) with some shaving of the toe to make it a bit more playable. I noticed LS4 wasn't nearly as bad.
When profiling, is it only about the radius and the length of contact points with the ice? I ask because the LS3 is 10' just like the LS4, but bulky toe and heels are visibly different. Is it possible to get a 10' profile and just have a different shape toe/heel?
I ask because I don't want something too fancy and become too reliant on that profile in the future. I'm currently thinking a 9'/10' combo and somehow ask the shop to make the toe and heel look like a LS2 or CCM runner shape.
I went to public skate just now, and was surprised that a hour and half of pure skating got me surprisingly adjusted to this weird runner. I still don't like it, but I'm starting to understand what the runner wants me to do to get those deeper, "crunchy" edges.
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5 hours ago, mojo122 said:Don't touch my heel and toe.
I profile all my new steel mainly because I have no confidence that the set I have is perfectly matched out of the box. I've tinkered around with many profiles over the years and like a lot of steel on the ice, in the range of a 13.5' radius. What options do you have in your area for profiling? ProSharp or CAG?
They have both blademaster and prosharp profiling options. Prosharp is $10 more expensive (and more expensive for each sharpening thereafter as well). I’m not sure why.
6 hours ago, stick9 said:Yes. It needs to be contoured to a more played shape. The heel and toe are brutal.
I think that’s the main culprit. I read somewhere that the LS3 has the most bulbous toe and heel and it shows during skates. I’m confident I can get used to the 10’ but the huge toe and heel makes edging really weird - I have to be more deliberate.
I compared my old blade to the new ones and they are visibly really different. I think my old crappy skates started on a 9’ and is now 8’ or less now (they were several years old model vapors and were $115 since I was poor right out of college). I never profiled them. The runners weren’t even replaceable from the holder so the steel is probably really bad. I used to sharpen them every 2 weeks when I was on the ice like 4-5 times a week every the winter.
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So my new skates have LS3 runners. Compared to my old skates, which went through countless sharpening, the new skates feel more different due to the runners than anything else. If I can explain it, they're closer in feel to inline/figure skates.
I can still skate and do everything I used to, but it's noticeably more annoying to be agile and it takes more effort to get on my edges. I was wondering if others have experienced this before with LS3 and if I should either profile it or just stick with it. I do believe a few focused public sessions or stick and puck would help me adjust, but I'd like to just start taking advantage of the new skates as quickly as possible.
If profiling is your suggestion, what should I profile to? I'd like for something not too drastically different. The main issues is with the heel - doing warmup slaloms, I feed the need to keep my feet even tighter together than usual since there's so much blade contacting the ice. It forces good form during drills, but that's not always possible in a game of actual hockey!
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Sort of related, but with the release of the QR Edge, does anyone know when the previous top of the line QRL is going on sale below US$220? I've been itching to get my hands on one since I'll barely be able to tell the difference from the QRE.
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On 8/4/2018 at 3:24 PM, Nicholas G said:The JetSpeed Ultimate Faceoff is an online game where contestants go head-to-head with McDavid in a faceoff. The animated game is interactive with the player, where you see instantly if you win or lose in a faceoff against McDavid. If you win, you win a prize. If you lose, you can play again!
Contest dates: August 2nd to September 13th
Eligibility to win: Winner must reside in North America (no exempt states or provinces). **Not every game played will win a prize.
Multiple entries: Fans can play the game an unlimited number of times, with a chance to win every time.
PRIZES
- GRAND PRIZE: Meet a pro player!
- 10 pairs of JetSpeed FT1 Skates
- 10 JetSpeed Sticks
- 30 JetSpeed FT1 Gloves
- 950 JetSpeed Hats
Prizes will be shipped from Montreal, QC to all winners in North America. Please allow for 2-3 weeks for delivery. If the address is not complete, no prize will be delivered, and the winner will not be contacted.
URL (active from August 2nd – September 13th😞 Ultimatefaceoff.ccmhockey.com
I don't think winners are from all of North America. It's Canada only.
If you win anything, they require a form to be signed and returned back to them before delivering the prize. The form states explicitly that you reside in Canada with a Canadian address.
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Just spend a ton of time on the ice, even at a crowded public skate, and take slow, deliberate backward strides to build good habits. My entire skating was learned back when I didn't know anything about fancy hockey equipment and very low-end Vapors (they were like a 2009 model I think that couldn't even swap out runners lol). Most kids growing up did this and it was never an issue.
I still could play hockey fine and learned every backward skating maneuver with those old skates (backward crossovers, backward hockey stops, single leg figure 8s, etc.). Just practice and spend time on the ice. Expensive skates and profiling will fine tune a good skater, but will make negligible difference for someone learning the very basics.
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14 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:Okay, then it confused me I guess 🙂 The last bunch of posts made it sound like it was important to have a good fitter still. If that’s not the case then yay!
My major concern as well. The less room for human error in deciding the quality/fit of the custom skate the better.
For something like this, I'll research the crap out of every detail and option possible before showing up at the shop.
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So it seems a lot of authority and professional advise is reliant on the fitter and the specific LHS you go to. That would not only mean that you get a fitter in the store that has a talent for this sort of work, but also the experience and repetition required to become and expert in custom skates.
I understand the appeal of asking customers what they want, rather than just relying on a set of mechanical diagnosis of the player's foot. After all, every individual is different and some are more sensitive than others in certain areas of the foot. For me, for example, I've never had to worry about lace bit even for skates that failed the pencil test, but always had really sensitive heels. Even a tiny lack of cushioning in my heels would aggravate my heel spur.
I've never gotten custom skates before, so I'm not sure how different the Bauer process is from CCM and True. Can someone shed any light on this? I've heard pretty negative things about CCM (they don't customize much and are not as hands on) and great things about True (they customize everything, mixing very detailed technical diagnostics with anecdotal report by the fitter).
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21 minutes ago, JDub said:Interesting reading through where this thread has gone. From Steve Jobs to Tesla and beyond!
A few details on the MyBauer program. The project officially kicked off 3.5 years ago. At that time, we identified the service level’s of professional players was changing significantly where our Elite Athlete Reps were casting players feet and sending the casts into Blainville to make skates. We couldn’t do anything from a manufacturing perspective with the casts other than visually see areas of required adjustments we could implement in our manufacturing process at that time. I am sure some of you have seen the castings we were doing at that time.
We knew at that time, we needed to evolve our process and tools to meet the growing need of players. We also started to see Elite players (AAA, High School, etc.) interest in customization significantly increase and casting just was not feasible on many fronts. So, we kicked off a project and looked at multiple scanning devices. Ultimately, we chose to collaborate with Swedish based company Volumental on the front-end scanning solutions based on the level accuracy of the scan, how fast it scans, how simple it is to operate and similar company philosophies. The scanner includes 12 depth cameras and an internal processing system developed to model feet with the greatest level of accuracy. The scanner measures in fractions of mm so it’s not uncommon to go to 1 retailer and get another reading at another – we have and will continue to work with all retailers to standardize the fitting positioning during the scanning process. If you think about it, the thickness of a sock during a scan can change a reading or even the time of day/level of activity in the day can affect your reading. I know JR can attest to this. Any who, once we got to a comfort level with Volumental, the rest of the process begun.
Options to create a customized last to use in the building an individual custom skate was next to be tested. We ended up going with 3D printing solution for similar reasons as the scanner – accuracy in building the individual tools/lasts and flexibility on solutions in various areas of the foot and detailing. Not 100% clear what others are doing but we are confident in the tech/process we invested in to achieve the desired goals. We purchased multiple industrial grade, high-end 3D printers that again, speed and accuracy was a premium and off we went to building and testing with pro players a new way of building custom skates. Was it perfect at first? No but we learned all the way through and about ¼ way through this past NHL season it started to really take off in terms of fit, comfort and performance. So much so that 3D scanning/custom lasts has become the norm. Call this validation.
Next step – was focusing on front-end solution where players can choose performance specs and visualization of building of the skate on the fly. When you see MyBauer at retail, you can build the skate in store by choosing specs like tongue, blade, liner, eyelet facing, laces and personalize with your name and number. We call these the performance specs as the scan takes care of the fitting details.Here is the general process you will go through.
Step 1: Scan the foot (5-seconds for both feet)
Step 2: Add notes to the foot scan – We can see most of the details in the scan but it’s always very helpful to know what the issue is. We have people on the team that have built custom skates for players for over 25 years – they know what they are doing and highlighting these “trouble” areas helps.
Step 3: Try on skates. The scanner now has a custom skate recommendation (L foot and R foot independent). Try on some stock skates and dial in your personal preferences. Some players are going to want to adjust down or up based on preferences. With the skate lab out for a year and over 200K unique scans in the system, personal preference still plays a role. You can adjust length in the order submission but width is not an option as the custom last process shapes the skate to your individual foot (L and R). At any time during this process you want to make additional notes to your foot scan, you can.
Step 4: Choose your specs.
- It starts with choosing a family (Vapor, Supreme or Nexus). Our families are generally based on a low profile (Vapor), Mid profile (Supreme) or High profile (Nexus) and adjustments can be made based on a combination of notes and scan details. Generally speaking, you should stay in the family you scan for but again, that’s a personal preference.
o The Nexus model is a 2N PRO skate which is not available as a stock option moving forward.
- Confirm the length of the skates based on personal preference and trying on skates.
- Choose your eyelets – Injected Facing or Standard eyelets.
o We consider INJ facing as high performance and is limited in terms of pattern adjustments.
o Standard eyelets is traditional feel and performance but allows for greater range of adjustments. For example, if you suffer from lace bite – in most cases we see it is based on the profile of the upper foot and depth of skate being worn. If you add a lace bite as a note on the scan, we can adjust the pattern with a standard eyelet or go to a deeper fitting skate with injected facing. This is just 1 example of many.
§ Supreme Injected Eyelets only comes with Supreme C-Flex tendon guard
§ Supreme with standard eyelets only comes with Pro Stiff tendon guard
§ Nexus 2N pro comes with Injected eyelets only
- Choose your tongue – 5 options to choose from
o Vapor flex lock (thermoforming, protective, light)
o Supreme reflex (thermoforming, protective, energy return)
o Classic pro felt (traditional feel and comfort
o Molded felt (light and thin),
o Double classic felt (Thick and comfortable.
§ We kept the selection simple to start and selection makes up majority of preferences of players surveyed.
- Choose your blade – LS5, LS3, LS2 – Selection of personal preference
- Choose your liner: Lock fit or full grip
- Choose laces: Standard cloth or waxed
- Personalize your skates: 13 characters and 2 numbers max.
Step 5: We produce the skate for you and ship the skates. We still recommend thermoforming the skates - just puts the final touches on it.
Apologies on the lengthy post but hopefully this helps. Conversation & questions can continue!
Cheers
Thank you so much for the very detailed post! This really helps a lot of us who have never ventured into the custom skate world. The detail of the process, as well as the context for the development cycle, is incredibly helpful! My future skate will likely be a custom skate, so I look forward to following the evolution of your product.
You mentioned that "Generally speaking, you should stay in the family you scan for" in terms of skate family. If the skates are going to be built from a custom last and everything including depth/volume will be adjusted for the customer's foot, why would anyone pick any skate family other than the most recent, featured-packed skate?
For example, in this generation, the Supreme features the carbon Curv, which is the most advanced composite material by Bauer. Along with the many other features that the Supreme has, why would anyone pick Vapor? I assume that a custom Vapor would never be able to get the flexible tendon guard, carbon Curv, or some of the other new tech from the Supreme line except for the liner and tongue.
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I heard the STX Surgeon line has minimalist shoulder pads. They're on clearance now.
If you want to wait, I think the new line of STX Surgeon protective are probably releasing soon. Some guy on Sidelineswap listed this a while ago: https://sidelineswap.com/gear/hockey/shoulder-shin-guards-elbow-pads/334604-other-brands-new-stx-surgeon-rx3-1-senior-large
Thankfully, looks like STX is changing the color scheme to blue and black. White shoulder pads will turn brown in half a year.
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2 hours ago, zeberq said:Right now this is just one that came with skates.
Looking for either superfeet Yellow or CCM custom.
Gel pads could be something worth to try. Is it specific pads or any heel pads?
Good to know the lacing worked for you. It sounds like your issue was less severe than mine. My heel developed a bone spur and hurt just rubbing against the back of the skate. If it ever gets worse, you can always opt for a heel gel sleeve like Bunga pads.
Also, I'm selling an extra pair of new CCM custom insoles (shop sent me extra one). If you're interested, just PM and let me know. 🙂
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On 7/26/2018 at 4:26 PM, zeberq said:Thanks a lot for detailed answer! I'll give it a try.
OP here. I would say that if you're having a serious issue with heel sliding, resorting to unique lacing patterns should only be an option if you really love your current skates and don't want to buy something new.
I ended up getting new skates and now no longer need to wear bunga pads. The moment I put my new skates on (even with relatively loose laces), my heel was locked in and my ankles felt like there was even a pinch.
Don't just pay attention to skate width. My heels had issues with Jetspeeds despite their having narrow-ish width. Instead, the newer Bauers (both Vapors and Supremes) had incredible heel lock for me and just felt better overall. It has mostly to do with the way the foam padding are located. CCM foams are placed quite a bit higher so my bony heel keep rubbing against the hard portion of the quarter.
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48 minutes ago, CigarScott said:Pure Hockey has just advertised the prices for custom skates from all three manufacturers:
I was just about to post this! Anyway, the Pure Hockey email that was just sent out had a teaser photo of potentially what the custom Bauer will look like.
EDIT: NVM. Goalie skates. 😞
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2 minutes ago, lslcs4lif said:Comes down to skate depth. The scanner will recommend a skate based on depth, width will be determined by the last the skate is manufactured with.
So they don’t adjust the instep depth/volume? I was under the assumption that a true custom skate would customize everything, from width, instep depth, etc.
I’m in supremes now and they still have the metatarsal guard dig into the top of my foot and I fail the pencil test a bit. I swim in Nexus.
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11 minutes ago, marka said:Howdy,
I was in the local Pure today and one of the guys there was saying that True actually had something like 300 lasts, and what they really do is use your scan to find the one that's closest to your foot. No clue if that's actually True's process though.
My question for @JDub... At the store the guy showed me some magnets they were getting read that seemed to be related to the custom skate stuff. Those magnets had all three model lines on them, with a price next to each for the custom skate. I don't remember anything about the price other than "all over $1.1k, Holy crap!" :-), but later I wondered... What's the difference between the three lines, if the skates are custom? Just the graphics package?
MarkI’d like to know the answer to this as well. If this is truly going to be a full custom skate, what’s the point of choosing between Vapor, Supreme and Nexus?
I imagine the answer comes down to features. Perhaps even in a full custom, a Vapor cannot get the Supreme flexible tendon guard, and Supreme cannot get the Vapor asymmetrical eyelet alignment or x rib quarter pattern.
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19 hours ago, boo10 said:The question:
Does anyone know how much, if at all, the heel pocket of FT380/390 skates will open up post bake and break in? Can I get 1-2mm in length?
My story:
I have a difficult to fit foot (average width, but high instep). Also, I'm probably a 7.75D, so 7.5 often feels short, while 8.0 feels long.
I recently picked up a pair of 9090 Tacks size 7.5D and they felt perfect post bake. Big toe just brushing the cap. Took them on the ice and fell in love. Alas, it was only puppy love and after an hour of skating it was all over but the crying. The heel pocket opened up just enough that my heel started lifting in the boot. Not terrible, but enough for me to know that it would only get worse.
When I bought the Tacks, I also considered FT390, but they felt just a little short, (big toe pressed a bit more on toe cap and didn't completely pull away with bent knees). My heel was locked in like glue, so I know if the pocket opened up a bit, I'd still have good heel lock.
So back to my question; will I get enough space post bake n break to alleviate the pressure on my toes?
I don’t have the FT380/390, but currently skate in the FT370. I tried all of them. They are fundamentally the same (all 3 are rocket frame, feature speed core, and shape are exact same - the other 3 just have stiffer speed core and different tongues/outsoles).
My experience is the heel opens up quite a significant amount width-wise and a fair bit even length wise. I recently started a thread here:
If you had an experience of heel slippage with the Tacks, there’s a slight chance you may experience it with Jetspeeds again post-bake even if you feel locked in right now. I tried so hard to fit in CCMs - even bought FT1s just to try but had to return them. The FT1s fit completely differently than the lower 3 price points but the heel lock was a bit better. Even that was inconsistent. My right foot was really locked in but my left felt noticeably looser.
Eventually, I went back to Bauer and concluded that my heel, for whatever reason, just feels so much more locked in to their skates. It’s probably not even about width or depth, but the shape of the heel pocket and contouring of the internal ankle padding on Bauer skates. Both the Supremes and Vapors (the curv composite price points) have tighter lock for me than any CCM line.
I can’t explain it. Even on Supremes, I get sucked into the heel pocket but not so on Jetspeeds. That’s why they tell you to try every pair in person, even between price points.
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22 hours ago, Vet88 said:If they wont ship direct or you can't find a MSH member to help, use a virtual address from someone like reship.com or shop&ship (I know the courier company behind this company). Google "shop in canada ship to US", check the shipping cost for each one, google for reviews then sign up and use it.
Thank you for the suggestion Vet! I went ahead and found a virtual mailbox in Montreal through Anytime Mailbox (CAD$20 with a small $2/package forwarding fee) who will forward the package to the US. The store I'm buying from is in BC so the Montreal address allowed the sales tax to be cut in half.
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In my recent quest to find a new skate the last 2-3 months, I've started to notice a general trend across all the skates regardless of model or price point between CCM and Bauer. I thought it'd be fun to hear everyone's opinions on this.
Is CCM offering better value, dollar-for-dollar, with their skates than Bauer at this point?
Consider the Jetspeed FT380 ($400), which feature Rocket Frame composite quarter, heat moldable Speed Core 2 (as stiff as top of the line from previous generation), vented outsole, comfort edge padding, anti-wear/abrasion material near top of collar, etc.
Now compare that to the Vapor x700 ($400), which has fiber composite quarter (!?), no vented outsole, no comfort edge, no anti-wear patch, etc.
Even the $300 FT370 already has a composite quarter with Speed Core 1, comfort edge, and vented outsole. Some of the FT380 features don't show up until top 2 price points of Bauer.
What are some of the features of a Bauer skate that is perhaps more difficult to advertise that justify their pricing? Are the Curv composite that show up in the $500-$550 range that much superior to the equivalent CCM speed core 3 and rocket frame, for example?
I'm still going to probably end up with a Bauer because my feet just doesn't get along with CCM skates (and that ultimately is most important), but it does seem interesting to notice the different directions Bauer and CCM are going.
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I'm looking to buy skates from a Canadian retailer, but they won't ship to the US due to Bauer delivery restrictions.
Has anyone ever purchased skates online from a Canadian seller and then figured out a cheap way to get it to their US address?
The seller will ship for free to the Canadian address and I'm more than happy to pay for the shipping to the US (it's probably going to cost around $40-50 from Montreal to my address in the US).
Heck, I'd even pay a MSH member to receive the package and drop off the skates at their local Canada Post office!
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11 hours ago, Vet88 said:It could be a number of things, any of these are impossible to determine unless one sees you skate and can look at the shape of your foot, stance etc.
However lets address this chestnut - getting new skates generally isn't going stop the aggravation of your Bauer bump. Depending on the shape of the boot heel and the amount of padding in there a new skate can make it much worse. The only way to stop your bump from hurting is to remove any pressure on it (or get the bump removed). The cure I have found for skating with a Bauer bump is a 5 pronged approach 1: punch the hell out of the heel to create a pocket and a channel for the bump to sit in (I've done this in my MX3's, APX2's, Jetspeeds, Alkali's and others. I even cut part of the quarter panel out of a pair of Graf Ultras, this did work but it's a radical approach . 2: Pick a skate with straight heel eg like a one100. Now your bump doesn't have anything to bang against if the heel lifts slightly in the pocket. 3: Throw your laces away (and teach yourself how to skate properly, more on this later) 4: Wear ezyfit booties and bunga heel pads to protect the bump. 5: A combination of 1, 2, 3 or 4. 2, 3 and 4 is my current approach, I skate in one100s with no laces (to train) and to play I lace up the bottom and 3rd eyelet up only. The bump on my left heel tolerates this and the right heel is ok (had the bump removed last September) even though I still can't tolerate tight fitting shoes. Once your bump gets to a certain stage of aggravation (insertional tendonitis), you just can't jam / lock the heel into the pocket any more......
Then there is the issue of why you have a bump. Research I've been involved with and read is that if you have narrow heels (which from your post it sounds like you have) and pronate (narrow heels, volume issues and pronation is very common) you have a very high percentage of developing some kind of bump. It is caused by your foot rolling in the skate (even with the laces done as tight as you can), this leads to no heel lock, increased roll and heel lift, the outside of your heel smashing against the side of the skate every time you stride / corner etc and the body reacts over time by adding more bone to the area. FT370's are a low mid range skate, not the stiffest so any roll in your foot is going to put pressure on the sides of the heel pocket and cause it to open up quickly. I'm not saying this is why you now have no heel lock but it could be a factor.
Making no comment on how the LHS fitted you, to get a better heel lock here is something that may work, it has for me and others. Get a heat gun and heat up the inside rear quarter of the skate (don't heat the other side of the skate), once it goes soft put it on, lace up firm then lie on the floor with the outside of the skate lying on the floor. Now get someone, without shoes on, to stand on the inside area of the heel and ankle. This will shape the boot to your inside heel / ankle shape and if you pronate slightly it will have the same effect as moving the blade holder slightly inwards. Next day go for a skate, if you are still unhappy with the lock and the way the boot feels on your feet, do the same for the outside rear quarter of the skate. However moving a panel inwards from its natural shape means over time it will eventually move out again. I'd suggest you need to eventually find a boot that has a really tight heel lock in the first place but if FT1's aren't doing it for you then you may need to go the custom route (or try 50k's, they have one of the narrowest heels in retail boots).
If you have volume issues stop stressing about getting a boot that fixes it. Find a boot that fits you for shape, length, heel lock. Tight spots get punched, volume can be addressed with eyelet extenders. Now you can go out and find the best retail boot fit wise for your foot without worrying about volume. If you want to test the heel lock, take the laces out and put the boot on. If the overall fit, length and heel lock is good, you should be able to lift your foot in the air and shake it around without the boot falling off your foot.
And if you pronate it can be addressed in various ways, it all depends on how much you skate and how much effort you want to put into fixing it. My approach is no laces, strengthen the ankles / calves / hips (backward one foot skating drills until your legs die of fatigue), learn to skate over the center of the blade and control the roll of your foot across the blade. But this takes time, dedication and hours and hours of practice. Others move the holders inwards, even for the pros. I was talking to an EM last week who did this for Dougie Hamilton.
Thank you so much for all this incredible info and sharing your experiences. I do skate with very loose laces (I do a deep, full knee bend when lacing up and hate tight laces) and thought that was part of the reason for my heel moving all the time. I also wear Bunga pads now, but want to avoid wearing them with a proper fit skate.
Your post got me thinking and I have an idea. After searching, I found out that the SMU Supreme Matrix skates (basically an upgraded S180) is available in a narrower C width, which would put it probably just a hair wider than Vapor D width. That would be perfect - volume for my instep with a very narrow anatomical heel lock.
Is there any info on the upcoming 2018 Supreme skates and if the new SMU Supreme will be based off the Curv composite model or a cheaper one? Will that be available in C width as well? Where can I place orders online for these SMU skates in the US?
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It’ll probably take some time. This all just launched yesterday so I imagine they’re working overtime to fix any issues.
I agree though, these prices are nuts. I wish I needed gear just to support them because I would love for this to be the future of hockey. These are the prices that consumers have always expected - not $300 on a new stick.