CigarScott

Prior to taking up skating, I was a bad supinator (opposite of pronating) in my right foot so I had the local podiatrist make me some skate orthotics for supinating which hurt like hell wearing since it exacerbated the pronation. I offered to make molds of my feet using this kit (https://accu-cast.us/lifecasting-kits/foot-casting/) and ship them to Winnipeg but I was told that I couldn't do that. The point of this is that if they made skates based on regular molds and what info I provided that they may have moved the holders outward for my supination would would have been terrible for me. I have no idea how they decide how far to move the holders in. It looks to my untrained eye that they moved them in as far they could while there being room in the footbed for the rivets to bite properly.

I would shoot him an email (you can PM me for his address if you don't have it any longer). My second pair had its holders moved in medially (learned a new word today) which I doubt would have been done if I didn't email back and forth with Rob. It seems that the lingering theme is that people have their LHS employee enter notes into their scan file but True either ignores them or underestimates how much adjusting that they have to do to built the skate. If you watch this video, you can see some of the lasts that SVH has made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBUfeofOa90. I'm sure that they're refined the process since 2014 but I doubt that they're 3D printing like Bauer is and are still using these lasts as template then tweak things to represent a particular customer's foot.

I got 3D scanned for mine and my first pair was way too small and nothing being done for my pronation after expressing countless times that I had bad pronation along with really bad hot spots in my bunions and corner of my big toes. The second pair was bigger and the holders were moved inwards so the pronation issues were corrected but I still had issues with the hot spots. Rob offered to provide a shipping label to return the skates to have them worked on or punched out but I didn't want to be without them for two weeks or more when you factor in the shipping time to and from and whatever time it takes for them to getting around to fixing them. So I borrowed a boot punch from a friend at the rink and keep playing Macgyver on them to try to fix my hot spots. @smu - Did you contact Rob Thompson directly at True? I had to do that to cut through the red tape to get mine remade.

Here's a pair of 4's in the US: https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/spo/d/used-easton-mako-m8-size-45d/6709846854.html

I would like more lie angle options on more curves. I play a W01 curve twig with a 4.5 lie angle that is a Warrior pro stock, would love to get a 4 lie angle made by someone.

Start calling around or emailing shops to see if they have a pair in his size. There is probably some mom & pop shop somewhere that is sitting on a pair. Otherwise set up alerts on Ebay and Sideline Swap so you're notified once a pair pops up.

A pair of size 58 Tackla's just popped up on Ebay for anyone looking for a pair: https://www.ebay.com/itm/142974038027?ul_noapp=true

That is also true but if they're getting calls and emails from throughout North America with people inquiring about what stock they have in these, they don't have to be business geniuses to know that they're sitting on some coveted and rare products.

Supply and demand. They probably know that they're sitting on some of the last Mako's for sale and they're a coveted item. If people like them badly enough, they'll pay the $600...

I got my replacement pair on Tuesday, baked them while doing the "tissue technique" and skated on them for the first time last night. It looks like they moved my holders towards my inside edges a few mm to help with my pronation. My left foot seems fine and I think will be good once I remove the toe cap padding since the end of my big toe is digging a bit into the toe cap. My right foot I'm still having issues with my bunion and big toe with lack of volume after notating these problems to True and sending pics, etc. Does anyone know if the toe cap material can be punched out to give me more room in the area? Here is my right foot after an hour of taking it easy during a learn to play class even with wearing my bunion sleeve and gel toe cap thing: https://imgur.com/a/C6EIRSc I don't want to have to bother True again and I think my right skate can be fixed to work for me but I need to figure out a way to get more room in that area. My Speed Plate 2's showed up yesterday so I plan to rebake them tonight or tomorrow with the Speed Plates. Anyone have any other tips for my rebake?

@WildBillKickoff If you need some big shoulder pads, the guy that I bought mine from just listed another pair of XXL Reebok/Jofa pro stocks which are becoming harder and harder to find: https://www.ebay.com/itm/153203951417?ul_noapp=true

It didn't happen for me but I heard that it happened to a customer at the same Pure Hockey that I was scanned at a couple months later. Perhaps there was a software update that messed up the submission process? When I was scanned in June, there was no email confirmation or order tracking available to me at the time.

What's the pros and cons of both?

You can get multiple liners with True? I don't recall that being offered when I got fitted.

When did they start allowing customers to track their order via email? I got fitted in June and ordered in July but I had to email Maisy at the factory to find out what the status of them were.

I added a new section covering jocks, garters, and base layer stuff.

If you need a hockey jock w/ velcro garter, you'll be hard-pressed to find another one in 3xl... https://sidelineswap.com/gear/hockey/other-hockey/315220-under-armor-purestrike-comp-hockey-jock-short-w-cup-sr-various-sizes

Nice, glad those went to a good home. I will say that I personally like the fit of the Tackla Air 9000 better since my pair is for a 48-50" waist and they're built like a tank next to the Bauer but for the cost, you weren't going to get anything close to this nice in your size but who knows, you may absolutely love them and prefer them if you have the opportunity to try a pair of size 58 Tackla; the Nexus line of pants is quite popular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5y9ejpldGU You can always hit up Montreal Hockey later in the year to see if they imported any size 58's if you want to try them or wait until Tackla in Europe has a sale where it won't be as painful to order a pair from them. Let me know if you need help finding anything else; chances are I've bought from the people that have these caches of oddball-sized gear.

Save the money and pick these up on closeout to try first: https://www.tsrhockey.com/bauer-nexus-600-sr-hockey-pants.html I have the newer version as a backup pair and they'll fit a 44-48" waist...

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CCM has been in skate-making business for over a century and Bauer for over 90 years so I expect them to be flawless whereas before November 2016, VH was a tiny, niche company where the owner was making skates in his basement 3-4 years ago, so I knew and accepted that they wouldn’t be as refined as the Big Two. Hell, True Hockey skates could look like crappy, high school shop class projects for all I care if they are comfortable, stiff enough for my weight, and help with my pronation. There are pros and cons to all three options. Bauer and CCM are well-known brands that virtually everyone that plays or has played hockey has heard of and trusts. True is a small company when compared to them and are better known for their golf club shafts that a lot of the general hockey public, especially non-gear nerds have never heard of. Bauer and CCM has far more fit centers where you can order customs. There is a Bauer and CCM fit center about 2.5 hours from where I live in Birmingham; True doesn’t have one within 500 miles of where I live. I realize that I live in a bit of a hockey desert but there is nowhere, that I’m aware of in Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Louisiana where you can be fitted for True skates so unless you can get outside of this large geographic footprint to get fitted, they’re not available to a good chunk of the US and I’m sure there are a lot of other gaps in the US where hockey players can’t get fitted for them. The pros of True is that they’re a lot cheaper than Bauer and CCM: Bauer by $150 and CCM by $200. I would have considered Bauer but the scan results that I got were so far off that I wouldn’t trust my skates to come close to fitting and I thought my feet scanned a little small with my CCM results plus I had a bit of sticker shock with them. If I could have gotten a boot-only order from CCM where I could have installed LS Edge’s on them then I may have gone that route, especially if the costs were relatively comparable to True’s boot-only option. True is also known for its customer service. If I had these problems with a custom Bauer or CCM skate, I would be SOL unless I knew someone. I’m not sure what the complete fascination is with skate weight. No one wants cinder blocks on their feet but If 100g per skate is unbearable for you, then don’t skip leg day. 😊 As IP6Freely stated above, people like us that are regularly on this site and others like it are a tiny subset of hockey players, especially amongst adults. Most people who are True customers that are on here are the small percentage who had problems or fellow gear nerds who want to tell everyone how great their feet finally feel. Most people are in the middle and aren't on these types of websites. Hell, half the guys I see at my rink are rocking gear from companies that no longer exist or the stuff that looks like it was something that Gretzky played with, so they don’t really care about the latest brands and innovations until something breaks on them and then most of the time, they put price and value ahead of whatever the latest and greatest tech is or hot new brand is.

He's certainly taller than me but I have a good 100 lbs on him. Factor that in with giant, weird-shaped feet and pronation issues and you have me... 🙂

I've talked to a handful of shop managers/owners who sell True skates and they said in their observations that 90-95% of skates work for the customer the first time around so yeah, it wouldn't be practical for them to make dozens of sample skates for each retailer to try on, especially when you market yourselves as a true custom skate that doesn't care about standard sizes.

When it comes straight for the horse's mouth, I would assume that it is true. 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNd8ttvFT0k&t=22s