DEAL DONE !

[Sven 1]

Both sides worked all night long and now the deal is done !

http://www.msgnetwork.com/content_news.jsp...ther&league=nhl

[Miike 1]

What he's saying is the NHLPA still has to agree to it, Its been like that for awhile now, they have moved on to there 'Competiton Team' thingy and discussing other items to change the game.

[MissConduct 1]

players should like this

Sources say the six-year agreement includes a clause that will allow the union to re-open the agreement after the fourth year.

[Hooah4 12]

Hopefully the PA will vote to go with it.........

[Miike 1]

In my local paper they were saying it should be announced this week sometime. Draft in late July early August.

Lets Hope

[jjtt99 0]

Thanks for the article, as someone who has followed the lockout closely I've never heard of that author before. Regardless, I agree it's really close as many sources say so, but I'm waiting for the press conference.

JJ

[jason37 2]

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=130240&hubName=nhl

[Jason Harris 31]

$450K as a possible minimum salary is higher than I expected. I had figured it would be around $300K.

So, here's a question. Presuming this deal happens and the proposed rule changes come to pass, was it worth it?

My answer is yes because I believe there had been teams losing money and now they should be able to survive financially. I realize that some of you don't believe profits should be guaranteed -- which they won't -- but sports leagues differ from other businesses in that you are co-dependent on the actions of your colleagues, i.e., did the Rangers just sign a third-liner to $6.5M which will throw my cost structure out of whack?

That said, I don't think they would be even considering some of these rule changes if it weren't for the work stoppage. I think if they had agreed to the CBA a year ago, we probably would have seen smaller goalie pads and that would be it. Now, I think we'll see more changes that could open up the game. In the long run, that could well make the lock-out worth it.

[chippa13 1844]

I think the longer it went on and the more ambivalence they saw from hockey fans, fringe and fanatics alike, they realized the game needed some fixing.

[MissConduct 1]

http://www.nhlpa.com/Content/Feature.asp?contentId=3473

TORONTO/NEW YORK (July 13, 2005): The National Hockey League and the National Hockey League Players' Association have reached an agreement in principle on the terms of a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Details of the new Agreement will not be made available publicly pending the formal ratification process by NHLPA Members and the NHL Board of Governors. It is anticipated that the ratification process will be completed next week, at which time the parties will be prepared to discuss the details of the Agreement and plans for next season. No further comment will be made until then.

[chippa13 1844]

The same thing is now up on the NHL.com site.

[JGraz15 53]

Happy Day, 'bout friggin' time. I am looking forward to the draft and the player movement.

Blue Jackets in '06????? :)

[Eazy_b97 1]

Kipper is reporting NHLPA reps will meet next tuesday, all NHL players will vote Wednesday. Owners vote Thursday, if all goes well immediately after the Draft lottery will be held.

[Chadd 916]

$450K as a possible minimum salary is higher than I expected. I had figured it would be around $300K.

So, here's a question. Presuming this deal happens and the proposed rule changes come to pass, was it worth it?

My answer is yes because I believe there had been teams losing money and now they should be able to survive financially. I realize that some of you don't believe profits should be guaranteed -- which they won't -- but sports leagues differ from other businesses in that you are co-dependent on the actions of your colleagues, i.e., did the Rangers just sign a third-liner to $6.5M which will throw my cost structure out of whack?

That said, I don't think they would be even considering some of these rule changes if it weren't for the work stoppage. I think if they had agreed to the CBA a year ago, we probably would have seen smaller goalie pads and that would be it. Now, I think we'll see more changes that could open up the game. In the long run, that could well make the lock-out worth it.

It's actually too high but it will help the large number of guys who will soon be playing for the minimum.

I still say a better deal could have been done with a stiff luxury tax and real revenue sharing if the NHL was more concerned about making a deal than winning the negotiation.

[jrhky36 1]

how many teams reported actaull numbers. the wings only reported waht the wings made. all the consession at joe louis are owned by olympia enterinment.

$39 million hard cap is not too bad. NHLPA can renogaite after 4 years. could we see another strike then? i sure hope not.

my hope is that the league will find some way to make up for the lost season. hopefully it won't take as long as baseball did after their strike in 94.

looking forward to all the player changes. it should be exicting for true hockey fans.

[Chadd 916]

how many teams reported actaull numbers. the wings only reported waht the wings made. all the consession at joe louis are owned by olympia enterinment.

$39 million hard cap is not too bad. NHLPA can renogaite after 4 years. could we see another strike then? i sure hope not.

my hope is that the league will find some way to make up for the lost season. hopefully it won't take as long as baseball did after their strike in 94.

looking forward to all the player changes. it should be exicting for true hockey fans.

The only problem I see for the NHLPA is there has been no mention of a minimum percentage that must be spent on salaries. There is the potential for a lot of teams to spend close to the minimum and the players really get hosed.

If revenues increase the cap could easily exceed the $42M the owners offered back in Feb. That offer did not permit the cap to increase over the life of the CBA, the new agreement does.

[jjtt99 0]

The NHL and NHLPA websites are reporting they have a deal in principle. I doubt the ratification process will see either side turn it down. I'm guessing the players will have a few who vote against it, but not enough to kill the agreement.

Okay, now on to the free agent discussions and rule changes!

JJ

[chippa13 1844]

how many teams reported actaull numbers. the wings only reported waht the wings made. all the consession at joe louis are owned by olympia enterinment.

$39 million hard cap is not too bad. NHLPA can renogaite after 4 years. could we see another strike then? i sure hope not.

my hope is that the league will find some way to make up for the lost season. hopefully it won't take as long as baseball did after their strike in 94.

looking forward to all the player changes. it should be exicting for true hockey fans.

The only problem I see for the NHLPA is there has been no mention of a minimum percentage that must be spent on salaries. There is the potential for a lot of teams to spend close to the minimum and the players really get hosed.

If revenues increase the cap could easily exceed the $42M the owners offered back in Feb. That offer did not permit the cap to increase over the life of the CBA, the new agreement does.

Pssssssst..........look closely. There is a rumored floor for salaries in the low $20 million range.

[Chadd 916]

how many teams reported actaull numbers. the wings only reported waht the wings made. all the consession at joe louis are owned by olympia enterinment.

$39 million hard cap is not too bad. NHLPA can renogaite after 4 years. could we see another strike then? i sure hope not.

my hope is that the league will find some way to make up for the lost season. hopefully it won't take as long as baseball did after their strike in 94.

looking forward to all the player changes. it should be exicting for true hockey fans.

The only problem I see for the NHLPA is there has been no mention of a minimum percentage that must be spent on salaries. There is the potential for a lot of teams to spend close to the minimum and the players really get hosed.

If revenues increase the cap could easily exceed the $42M the owners offered back in Feb. That offer did not permit the cap to increase over the life of the CBA, the new agreement does.

Pssssssst..........look closely. There is a rumored floor for salaries in the low $20 million range.

Yeah, that's been rumored for months as well. Do the math on that though; 30 teams at $20M each or $600M. Much less than half the projected $1.7B. If the teams spent an average of $30M on salaries, it will come out close to the 54% "magic number".

[chippa13 1844]

And you don't think an item that has been rumored to be in the CBA for months has any basis in reality? Talk about your Doubting Thomases.

[chippa13 1844]

I don't think so. In order to get the linkage by the players they must have tossed in some revenue sharing to offset.

[chippa13 1844]

I'm sure it will. One thing I think is that the top 15-20 teams the last few years will have no chance at the number 1 pick in the draft.

[jjtt99 0]

Wow, hats off to TSN's online coverage as they have posted videos of their interviews with a few players, a GM and a player agent! They even talk to JR on his cell phone while he's golfing!

http://www.tsn.ca

[Chadd 916]

If the revenues increase which allows the upper cap to increase, does that mean the "little" or small market teams are in trouble again?

If the salary floor goes up it could easily cause problems for teams like Pittsburgh, Nashville and Carolina if those teams don't have an increase in revenue but others do.

[kosydar 0]

I'm sure it will.  One thing I think is that the top 15-20 teams the last few years will have no chance at the number 1 pick in the draft.

In that case, who are the worst 10-15 teams over the past few years? I don't think that they will be as bad as people will think at first. Carolina, Anaheim, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Washington have all had good seasons over the past few years, and those were probably the 5 worst teams in the last season.

Edit- at a quick glance, over the past four years the only teams that have consistantly been at or near the bottom of their divisions have been Buffalo and Florida, if you don't include expansion teams.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature.asp?fid=7314