Report: Bertuzzi's Suspension

[2-Keys 1]

I'd like to see him back, hes a great player..

Ya i totlly agree he should be back soon 10-20 games seems fair IMO he has served most of his time

he might be a good player but i dont think he should come back unless moore does. even 20 games isnt long enough

[Chadd 916]

Its not exactly easy to go into another career when you have any of these symptoms (despite his top notch degree) - headache, dizziness, fatigue, poor memory, poor concentration, irritability, depression, sleep disturbance, frustration, restlessness, sensitivity to noise, blurred vision, double vision, photophobia, nausea and tinnitus. Now I don't know how long PCS lasts, but it would be hard to do any job with that, let alone a lawyer.

The guy loved the game and would have made millions of dollars over his career. In a perfect world, Bert would have to wait until Moore was healthy again. He will never play again, but at least wait until he is fully recovered before Bert plays again.

According to some of the interviews I read, it took Beukeboom over 2 years before he could function normally.

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

Theo: Johnson punched - not elbowed - Beukeboom.

[Chadd 916]

Theo: Johnson punched - not elbowed - Beukeboom.

from behind, after a whistle.

[jjtt99 0]

I put this in the same camp as the Suter cross check on Kariya. Others may disagree. I guess we'll never know exactly how much and exactly what was premeditated.

It's likely Moore will get well paid in the cival suit. I know that doesn't bring his NHL career back but he's not going to end up pushing a shopping cart around looking for pop cans either. Nontheless, it's especially sad for him, and it's still keeping the game down. I think I'm like many others, I just want this whole bad scene to have a conclusion. It's the dragging it out that keeps the wounds open.

Give Bertuzzi 10, 20, 30 or whatever number of games. Moore gets paid in the cival suit, and we wish him well. NHL just make the call and lets hope this never happens again.

JJ

[2-Keys 1]

i half agree with you. dragging it on does keep the wounds open and this needs to come to an end but i just dont think making bertuzzi pay a ton of money and sit out for a while is a good enough punishment. its not like what he did was an accident

[ponty 0]

Regarding the comment I made on Crawford ... No I dont think that a player or anyone is going to jump the man. It was my unclear way of saying that this guy is VERY responsible for what happened.

I think alot of people forget it was more than a punch from behind with Bert. The big thing for me was the he drove Moore's head to the ice on purpose.

[Adam91 0]

In that regards I agree with you Ponty. Although for the most part his responsibity was overlooked by most of the media here in Vancouver and he walked away without a slap on the wrist. Not to back Bertuzzi but at least Moore has a Havard degree to take with him for the rest of his life.

[ponty 0]

Agreed. Everyone got so caught up with Bert's role they forgot about Crawford. I still wish Tochett would have got a hold of him :)

[Adam91 0]

For those few minutes after the punch to Moore it sure looked like he might. Good thing they keep that little peice of plexiglass in between the benches.

[2-Keys 1]

at least Moore has a Havard degree to take with him for the rest of his life.

yeah he does but thats not the point. what if he didnt have it? would not having it make this a bigger deal? In his current condition that degree does him no good anyways

[jbyun04 7]

There are so many different ways this one punch could have been avoided.

IMO, if Moore would've fought someone like May or Pronger this might not have happened because for all we know, May could've probably beat the stuffing out of Moore which wouldn't have led him to end up with broken vertabrae. Of course theres the IF scenario that even in the case that he did fight May, Bertuzzi would've still wanted to have fought him.

If Moore would've just fought May or Bertuzzi, he wouldn't have ended up with broken vertabrae and PCS. What we really don't know however is what really gave Moore the broken vertabrae.. Was it Bertuzzi's punch or was it the other 500 pounds on top of him?

[Chadd 916]

Agreed. Everyone got so caught up with Bert's role they forgot about Crawford. I still wish Tochett would have got a hold of him :)

Like the way he got a hold of Granato at the practice facility?

[Chadd 916]

There are so many different ways this one punch could have been avoided.

IMO, if Moore would've fought someone like May or Pronger this might not have happened because for all we know, May could've probably beat the stuffing out of Moore which wouldn't have led him to end up with broken vertabrae. Of course theres the IF scenario that even in the case that he did fight May, Bertuzzi would've still wanted to have fought him.

If Moore would've just fought May or Bertuzzi, he wouldn't have ended up with broken vertabrae and PCS. What we really don't know however is what really gave Moore the broken vertabrae.. Was it Bertuzzi's punch or was it the other 500 pounds on top of him?

Cooke challenged Moore and Moore fought him. Now he's supposed to fight the whole team? If the other guys hadn't gone after Bertuzzi he would have continued pounding on Moore until he was dead.

[Miike 1]

Not to back Bertuzzi but at least Moore has a Havard degree to take with him for the rest of his life.

Theres not a whole lot of players in the NHL who have a College Degree let alone one from Harvard.

[2-Keys 1]

i completley agree with you chadd

[jbyun04 7]

There are so many different ways this one punch could have been avoided.

IMO, if Moore would've fought someone like May or Pronger this might not have happened because for all we know, May could've probably beat the stuffing out of Moore which wouldn't have led him to end up with broken vertabrae. Of course theres the IF scenario that even in the case that he did fight May, Bertuzzi would've still wanted to have fought him.

If Moore would've just fought May or Bertuzzi, he wouldn't have ended up with broken vertabrae and PCS. What we really don't know however is what really gave Moore the broken vertabrae.. Was it Bertuzzi's punch or was it the other 500 pounds on top of him?

Cooke challenged Moore and Moore fought him. Now he's supposed to fight the whole team? If the other guys hadn't gone after Bertuzzi he would have continued pounding on Moore until he was dead.

You know Chadd, there are different views on how people looked at it

1. Bertuzzi was apparently heard calling for a Medic

2. Instead of pounding on him, he used his glove to cover his face from sliding on the ice

3. He told the Avs players that jumped on top of him to get the hell off of him so Moore could get rushed off

4. He possibly would have continually punched Moore

5. Bertuzzi is just a pure GOON

6. He jumped on Moores back to drive him into the ice

7. Moore walked out of Vancouver Hospital and went on a plane to go home.

8. Cooke didn't challenge Moore to a fight. Cooke only fought once and to say that he is Naslund's enforcer is ridiculous. If you look at the fight, you will see Moore's glove hit the ice well before Cooke's.

9. There was a bounty on Moore: May used the word Bounty after the game where Naslund was jumped into. He was reacting in the heat of the moment, and when Naslund was released and was asked if he wanted revenge, he clearly said "Winning the game was revenge enough". Why would they take May's word, who is an enforcer and whose job is to intimidate, over the Team Captain's word?

The Canucks agenda for March 8th was to win against Colorado to take the Division Lead off of Colorado, Todd wanted to settle a score but went too far. The fact that there was an apparent "BOUNTY" on his head would be retarded as that would mean sacrificing the division lead but also throw away the team's 2nd best player just to go out and "Collect the bounty".

So yeah, so many different ways to look at it I guess.. ;)

Also how do we know for sure that Bertuzzi would've kept pounding on him? It's possible that he could've had a guilty feeling after that one punch.

[mack 44]

In other fanatical news, did they find any other shooters in that whole Kennedy thing?

[ponty 0]

Its one of those topics where you are on one side or another. Kinda like politics. Its over and I think we all agree when I say I hope it never happens again.

On a lighter note ... Chadd, what did Tochett do to Granato? I did not hear this story :) Thanks God for Coach Q!

[Chadd 916]

Its one of those topics where you are on one side or another. Kinda like politics. Its over and I think we all agree when I say I hope it never happens again.

On a lighter note ... Chadd, what did Tochett do to Granato? I did not hear this story :) Thanks God for Coach Q!

It was near the end of the season if I remember correctly. Allegedly, they came to blows. Evidently it was not a good relationship all season.

[Flyerguy91 0]

the way moore's head went (back and to the left) it seems as tho there was another puncher.

I know it was dumb, but i couldnt help it

[jbyun04 7]

the way moore's head went (back and to the left) it seems as tho there was another puncher.

I know it was dumb, but i couldnt help it

yah if you watch the video again or look at the pictures, you can see the guy on top of Bert tried to hit Bert, but ended up hitting Moore :o

[lecavalier 0]

On a different note,anyone happen to have a video of Moore on Naslund the week before?Interested in seeing it again.

[wickedwrister 0]

Not to beat a dead horse but........If "we" can say that Moore has a Harvard degree and will be OK in the long run, why can't we say the Bert has made plenty of money to last him a lifetime ban from the NHL?

[Eazy_b97 1]

The argument to that would be Moores degree opens up paths for his future, where you are cutting off Bertuzzi's finances all together.

I may have stated it earlier in the post, and I've softened my position alot on Bert bein innocent. I think Moore should've fought him, I don't think his punch was to do the damage, I think it was a swing to goat him into fighting, I've seen it alot regionally, it was just misplaced. It doesn't excuse his actions, but judging on past events, I don't feel any further time is warranted. If this becomes the new staple for suspensions and everyone is punished along the lines he is though, I can understand extending his suspension

- I may have missed it, but how long did the Habs prospect get? I'm not even going to try and spell it.