sweetblazer 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 Hey,Im just wondering how many pushups in a row is consiered average, average for a hockey player. Is it like a % of body weight or what? I ask because we were doin fitness testing on the weekend and one of the guys did 80 in a row which I found rather impressive wondering if this is a high number? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rausch27 1 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 on or off ice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweetblazer 0 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 Off ice pushups...Interesting Stats chadd seems as if everyone on the team is high I dont think many if any got under 40. I wonder how many someone like iginla could do? Obviously it would get harder and harder the heavier you are but still.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gongshow11 1 Report post Posted September 27, 2005 nose hittign ground i can throw down minimum 60 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biff44 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 NHL Central scouting states in their fitness assesment report that NHL prospects can do the following:MEASUREMENT AVERAGE LOWEST HIGHEST Body Composition Height (ft:in) 6:3.2 5:8.5 6:6.5 Weight (lb) 192 156 244 Sum of 6 Skinfolds (mm) 61 34.1 116.9 Yuhasz % Body Fat 9.4 6.7 15.0 Musculoskeletal Fitness Sit & Reach (cm) 36 10.5 61.0 Curl-Ups (max consecutive #) 22 0 65 Push-Ups (max consecutive #) 26 14 42 Push-Ups x Body Weight (lb) 4145 2751 8330 Vertical Jump (in) 25 19 36 Leg Power (ft-lb/sec) 1111 791 1556 Standing Long Jump (in) 102 76 119 Hand Grip (lb) 132 81 183 Bench Press - 150 lb (#) 5 0 20 Bench Press (lb/lb body wt) 7.4 0 15.1 Push Strength (lb) 295 147 553 Pull Strength (lb) 251 103 329 Anaerobic Fitness Peak Power Output (Watts) * 928 642 1172 Peak Power Output (Watts/kg) 10.5 6.7 13.7 Mean Power Output (Watts) * 720 521 10.8 Mean Power Output (Watts/kg) 8.3 5.6 10.0 Fatigue Index - Drop off from Peak (%) 4.3 24 55Aerobic Fitness VO2max (liters • min-1) * 5.0 3.73 6.21 VO2max (ml • kg-1 • min-1) 56.5 44.9 70.0 "E. Push-ups: Push-ups are performed at a rate of 25 per minute in time with the metronome (set the metronome at 50 so that each click signals a movement either up or down)." Average # is 26. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Shera 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I did 51 last year, and 60 this year. A wrestler/football player in my gym class got 91 last year and 107 this year. Insane, I know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flaming_june 2 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 im doing 60 right now, trying to get to 200 by the time the season's over.im trying to improve my chin ups, cruches and dips as well too as much as i can in one sitting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Langenbrunner15 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Anyone know what the avergae is for 13 year old? push ups,chin ups, etc.BTW-Just turned 13 in late July (27th) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 im doing 60 right now, trying to get to 200 by the time the season's over.im trying to improve my chin ups, cruches and dips as well too as much as i can in one sitting you must be kidding. 200...nice stats BTW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeyman9621 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 im doing 60 right now, trying to get to 200 by the time the season's over.im trying to improve my chin ups, cruches and dips as well too as much as i can in one sitting you must be kidding. 200...nice stats BTW What's wrong with that? The record for pushups in 24 hours is over 49 000. I don't think it's impossible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 im doing 60 right now, trying to get to 200 by the time the season's over.im trying to improve my chin ups, cruches and dips as well too as much as i can in one sitting you must be kidding. 200...nice stats BTW What's wrong with that? The record for pushups in 24 hours is over 49 000. I don't think it's impossible. I didn't say it was impossible, just reach 150 and it would be great. 200, maybe in 1 year or more...if you want to reach that train harder and harder every week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Anyone know what the avergae is for 13 year old? push ups,chin ups, etc.BTW-Just turned 13 in late July (27th) Push Ups- AVG= 15-30, Above = 30+Pull ups for 13YO- Low= 1, Avg= 3, High= 8Standing long jump for 13 YO (50th percentile) = 170 CMSitups- Low= 15 and below, 15-30, high= 30+Half mile run (800m) 13 YO 50th percentile= 5:45 right from my favorite training book. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flaming_june 2 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 how do you get those stats? is there a way to find out specifically for evey person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EndBoards 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Bench Press (lb/lb body wt) 7.4 0 15.1 I don't get this... If it's saying that the average bench press is 7.4lbs per 1lb of body weight, then the average 192lb prospect is benching 1420lbs.. Maybe it's incorporating Reps into that 7.4?Biff/Theo.. Any stats on what's considered a good "baseline fitness" or something that gives an idea of muscular balance?I've been doing squats core work this summer, but with work & a family, I'm doing good to get to the gym once a week. Because of that, I've done very little upper body work. I'd be interested to see if (and how far) out of balance I might be.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EndBoards 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Hey end boards...I do have a chart that has optimum strength values for IRM (Or 1 rep) for Bench press, Standing press, Curls, Leg press but no squats. It also needs your weight to calculate it. I am sure Biff might have something a bit better.On the chart, for bench press a male of any weight should be able to lift 1 rep of his own weight.Thanks Theo... I'll need to work up to that on the BP. Legs and core are more important for hockey, so the hour or so per week that I have to lift is dedicated to that. After intense leg work, I'm too fatigued to get any effective upper body work in, so I've been neglecting it for a while..I work out alone, so I don't do 1RM's. However, there are calculators out there that use your 3RM or 4RM to predict what your probable 1RM is.. This is one of them: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/1rm.htmCould you post the 1RM's for the other movements? I wish it had one for squats, but leg press would be close enough I guess.. I weigh 207, but if you could just post the percentages of body weight for each movement, that would be fine..Is the chart you have specific to hockey, or is it for athletics in general? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 I agree with you for sure...If you are short on time, legs and core are the way to go. And squats are one of the best for working so many hockey muscels.Anyways For leg press:(1RM)Male 160 pounds= 320Male 180 pounds= 360Male 200 pounds= 400Male 220 pounds= 440Male 240 pounds= 280I believe it is for athletics in general Male 240 pounds = 480. I know that's what you mean Theo, just to make sure so nobody wiill be confused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EndBoards 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Male 200 pounds= 400 Sweet. 400 on the leg press is actually pretty easy for me... I do that for 8-10 reps and it's not all that intense compared to some of the squats I've been doing..At one point several years ago, I did something like 750lbs on the leg press. I just decided to start adding weight & adding weight until I couldn't lift any more.That seems too ridiculous to be accurate though, so I figure there must have been something different with that particular leg press machine that made it easier - maybe the sled was at a lower angle than a conventional or regulation leg press machine.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biff44 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Yeah, I used to leg press like that too, 770 lbs a for maybe 5 reps., but then my knees started suffering from it!I would recommend NOT going that heavy, but instead squating and using a slow and controlled motion. i.e. go deep, rise up a little, go deep again and rise all the way up. You can get the exact same workout benefit from maybe 30% less weight, and that means 30% less chance to groove your knee's cartilage! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cavs019 708 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 my knees kill me to the point of not being able to walk after my leg work outs. I'm 17 5'9 170 definitely still growing. Over the summer i was repping 325 Squat and 600 Leg press no problem and would feel unbelievably strong after recovery. Recovery however was HELL, any idea why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pats 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Honestly, performing 1RM's are not healthy and probably should not be done for safety and health reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EndBoards 0 Report post Posted September 28, 2005 Yeah, I got that high one time and after I did it, figured that it probably wasn't very smart to push it like that again..I pretty much stick with squats now, and use a weight that I can do 5-6 times. I figure that gives a pretty good compromise between building strength and being safe..I didn't get in as much gym time as I wanted, but what I was able to do feels like it should really pay off. Our adult league starts up a week from today, so I'm hoping that the training I've got in can help bring me a little closer to the better players in the league.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Langenbrunner15 0 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 Anyone know what the avergae is for 13 year old? push ups,chin ups, etc.BTW-Just turned 13 in late July (27th) Push Ups- AVG= 15-30, Above = 30+Pull ups for 13YO- Low= 1, Avg= 3, High= 8Standing long jump for 13 YO (50th percentile) = 170 CMSitups- Low= 15 and below, 15-30, high= 30+Half mile run (800m) 13 YO 50th percentile= 5:45 Thanks man, I need to keep this in mind and tell my coach and maybe it will get us in TOP shape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted September 29, 2005 As with any strength building exercise, don't concentrate so much on numbers as on form. Two reasons, first, worrying too much about numbers can make you overexert yourself and lead to injuries and, second, it could lead to you cheating on the exercise causing you to get no benefits from the exercise. If you really want to get the maximum benefits from pushups, I suggest buying a pair of pushup handles. These allow you to get a fuller range of motion and will also alleviate the pressure that traditional pushups put on your wrists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterhockey 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 I think they are from the Canadian athletics association. They are printed in my conditioning book. I wouldn't mind copying a bit more, feel free to ask. Maybe they are on the net somewhere as well. would you mind posting what it would be for a 15 yr old Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Shera 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2005 Sorry to jump on the bandwagon theo, but could you post the stats for 17 year olds. No hurry or anything, just whenever you got spare time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites