Hockey Dad hits kid

[warrior37 0]

can anyone answer my question, what did the BOY who was HIT by the COACH do to #88?

[Jason Harris 31]

can anyone answer my question, what did the BOY who was HIT by the COACH do to #88?

It appears to be the other way around. Based on the way he made a beeline to number 88, it looked like he was trying to get even for something until the coach stepped in.

[Duder84 0]

nothing, but he could have injured the player he was goin after

[warrior37 0]

exactly, NOTHING

[Chadd 916]

leaving the bench in a youth hockey contest to assault a player from the opposing team? he could have probably, just as easily bear hugged his #88 out of harms way

How old are these kids? It's not uncommon for younger age groups (Hockey school and Tyke) to have coaches on the ice with the actual players. The referee's didn't look like they were in control of the situation. A push is much different than a shove. By your logic, if I have a kid run into me, and I know he may do it, it's child abuse.

Coaches are not permitted on the ice, no matter what age the playeres are. No other adults came on the ice until after this guy hit the kid in the head. These kids are most likely mite (8-under) judging by their size and not capable of hurting each other.

If anything, the Dad should have just blocked the kid's shot, rather than hit him.

That's my take as well Fletch.

The guy turned a scrum between kids into assault of a juvenile. I stand by my statement that the guy should never be permitted at any youth sporting event for the rest of his life.

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

hard to tell it seemed more like a push than a punch and little kids arent all that balanced

im in favor of the coach on this one

the kid was goin for a cheap shot

exactly what i was thinking.

[Chadd 916]

Watch the early part of the video again and note what kid throws a sucker punch to the head of one kid and then jams both hands in his face. And that was a swing by the adult, you can see his follow through and the kid suddenly goes sliding away in another direction.

I can promise you that if I saw an adult do that in a game, I would call the police.

[reaper07 0]

no

thats editing

look at the kid skate in slowmo

then as soon as the hand reaches out they turn it back to normal/fast speed

editor is trying to change ur perception

[Chadd 916]

no

thats editing

look at the kid skate in slowmo

then as soon as the hand reaches out they turn it back to normal/fast speed

editor is trying to change ur perception

The first time it is in consistant speed. It doesn't change the point of impact, the follow through by the adult or the fact that the kid landed three feet to the left of where he was standing

[kkancho 6]

Ouch, but I'd do the same thing if some stupid kid was running after my son. But then again, if my son was the stupid kid, I'd kill that guy for hitting my son.

[yipperzz 28]

it's hard to make a judgement from just watching a few seconds of video. true, the coach or dad shouldn't have been on the ice even if he was protecting the kid. but he did and who knows what his intentions are. if he did punch the kid, he should be punished for that.

[Chadd 916]

Ouch, but I'd do the same thing if some stupid kid was running after my son. But then again, if my son was the stupid kid, I'd kill that guy for hitting my son.

That's exactly why no adult should ever be on the ice. As a ref I have never seen it improve a situation.

[flymonty3 0]

Ouch, but I'd do the same thing if some stupid kid was running after my son. But then again, if my son was the stupid kid, I'd kill that guy for hitting my son.

Agreed, if some guy dropped my kid like that, regardless of his intentions, his biggest concern would trying to pick himself up off the floor after I finished kicking his ass.

[Fredrik 0]

That guy should never be allowed near any youth sport for the rest of his life.

I agreed!

[gman 0]

I have several thoughts on this, some of which are probably contradicting:

1) It looked like the adult was either pushing the kid or putting his arm down in front of him to stop his momentum. The kid skated into the adult's arm or hand, lost his balance and fell over. It did not look, to me, like a punch, but rather he was protecting the other kid from being hit in the back of the head.

2) The refs had no control over the game

3) If it was a punch then the adult should be banned for life from youth sports

4) If it were my kid getting ready to be sucker punched I would have done the same thing. If his dad came at me, well so be it. The police call that mutual combat.

5) If it were my kid that got pushed/blocked/shoved/hit or whatever it was, you bet I would be all over that adult. This is why parents should not be allowed on the ice at all ever. At that age coaches should absolutely be allowed on the ice to break up fights.

6) We cannot know if there was some history between these two kids that night. It seems like there was.

7) In the league my kids play in, inline by the way, fighting is not allowed period. If you fight you are done for the season. Kids this age have too many other things they should be worrying about instead of fighting.

8) Anyone ever been hit by their 8-11 year old son? My kids and I wrestle all the time. If my kids are in skates, on ice, wearing protective gear including a helmet they are not going to be able to hit anyone that hard. It did not look like the kid who was going to be cheap shotted had his helmet off. My point is that I do not think the kid would have been hurt that badly even if he got hit. Did you notice the kid when he fell on his back? He looked like the little brother from "A Christmas Story". He bounced on his padding.

9) The adult shold have tried to pick the kid up, but then it would have looked like he was going for a mount and the kid did not have his guard up and then all hell would have broken loose even more than it did.

10) Hindsight is ALWAYS perfect.

[hockechamp14 0]

The kid's hand was going for 88's jersey... no one would have gotten hurt. The dad is an idiot, but to be honest, it was the referee's fault.

This looked like a continuing situation as line brawls don't just randomly start, and it should have been adressed earlier in the game.

One time in pee-wee our team had 3 players injured in one game, and the referees weren't calling penalties for a ton of dirty hits. After the referees told him that nothing was wrong with the hits after the second period, he had our team leave the bench. While I do agree we should have shaken hands, he made the right decision for the players. I was never a player to be intimidated and I was unsure about going on the ice the way the other team was hitting. In a situation like this, they should have just called the game.

[Chadd 916]

I have a hard time blaming the refs in this case. They weren't much older (if at all) than the players and certainly don't have any experience in a situation like this. I have done games of kids at that age and never do they get that would up on their own. It always takes a coach yelling and screaming and encouraging this sort of behavior.

[donkey87 0]

I have a hard time blaming the refs in this case. They weren't much older (if at all) than the players and certainly don't have any experience in a situation like this.

Then why are they out there? If they can't control a bunch of little kids, what exactly are they there to do? If you want to keep coaches on the bench, then keep control of the game.

[Chadd 916]

I have a hard time blaming the refs in this case. They weren't much older (if at all) than the players and certainly don't have any experience in a situation like this.

Then why are they out there? If they can't control a bunch of little kids, what exactly are they there to do? If you want to keep coaches on the bench, then keep control of the game.

The assumption is that players aren't going to go loco at that age. Personally, I'm not fond of kids reffing at that age but damn near every NHL official started when they were little kids. Referees don't "control" a game, they call penalties. coaches and players have to control themselves and blame it on referees when they fail to do so.

Think about it this way; someone punches you in the head for no reason. Could the ref stop him? No, but now has his hand up for a penalty on the guy. Now you're pissed off and slash the guy in the back of the leg, taking him down. Could the referee stop that? No, but now you're going to the box as well. Another guy on the other team missed the punch but sees your slash and now comes in and tackles you and starts throwing punches. How could the ref stop that? A referee is there to hand out penalties AFTER a player has done something and can't prevent things from hapening.

[Langenbrunner15 0]

agreed....they can't know what is going to happen before it does..

[donkey87 0]

Agreed, refs can't stop you from hittinh someone, but they can break up the fight. Once the first punch was thrown, the refs should have gone in and seperated the kids. Instead they stood and watched more kids join the fight.

[Chadd 916]

Agreed, refs can't stop you from hittinh someone, but they can break up the fight. Once the first punch was thrown, the refs should have gone in and seperated the kids. Instead they stood and watched more kids join the fight.

If you notice, the one ref heads right in to break up the initial scrum after the first punch.

[donkey87 0]

Agreed, refs can't stop you from hittinh someone, but they can break up the fight. Once the first punch was thrown, the refs should have gone in and seperated the kids. Instead they stood and watched more kids join the fight.

If you notice, the one ref heads right in to break up the initial scrum after the first punch.

Yeah, but its the small ref. He isn't any bigger than the players. What is he going to do? At this point none of those kids are going to listen to any ref. If your not big enough to seperate them, then you really can't do anything.

Enough about the refs. I've gotten off the topic of the dad hitting the kid, so I'll be quiet now. :D

[Jason Harris 31]

Agreed, refs can't stop you from hittinh someone, but they can break up the fight. Once the first punch was thrown, the refs should have gone in and seperated the kids. Instead they stood and watched more kids join the fight.

Actually, when I became ceritified to ref, they taught us to let the players duke it out until there is a safe time to enter. In other words, the ref shouldn't have to suffer a roundhouse to the face because of two idiots swinging. And they also said to remember to remove the whistle prior to entering the scum, else there be the chance of tearing skin on the fingers as it gets twisted.

That said, I don't think I'd be too concerned about stopping a couple of ten-year-olds.

[HockeyDude1712 0]

dammmmmnnn who from the NHL is looking into him??