3rd goal for edmonton goal or no goal?

[Hidious 0]

the rest is too blurry to really judge

Exactly. You can't refuse a goal if you aren't sure it's not good. No?

[Chadd 916]

the rest is too blurry to really judge

Exactly. You can't refuse a goal if you aren't sure it's not good. No?

I'm sure it's not good. No doubt in my mind.

[Eazy_b97 1]

Now that I have seen the clip on TSN I have to say no goal. High stick by that other Oiler to start it off and then the rest is too blurry to really judge but from the motion it looked like he grabbed an then dropped the puck to a kicking motion.

CBC just froze the "high stick" at the point of impact, and it was close, but below the shoulders. Since below the shoulders is the rule for continuing the play (crossbar is for scoring) it was the correct call.

I see the kicking motion of Hemsky, but that isn't what puts the puck inthe the net. It goes off his mid section and down. Once the puck hits his skate, he is done the kicking motion and Lidstrom pushes him into the net.

[SR27 0]

the rest is too blurry to really judge

Exactly. You can't refuse a goal if you aren't sure it's not good. No?

Sure not. I was saying it´s still no goal due to the high stick, though.

Edit: Thanks Eazy. I wasn´t aware that there was a difference in high sticking. I was thinking bar level. So from the vid I´ve seen I have to change my mind and say goal.

[sdh 0]

you guys who are all saying he kicked it in or there was a kicking motion are blind or biased or looking at bad replays.

the puck was at his chest or near his thigh (no where near his skates). during the game they showed every angle possible and the puck clearly hits a stick and bounces up into his chest. the puck is in the air when he gets hit.

having said that, I think there is NO WAY he didn't try to push the puck in with his leg. I sure as hell would and I'm sure his reaction times are a million times faster than mine.

[Chadd 916]

you guys who are all saying he kicked it in or there was a kicking motion are blind or biased or looking at bad replays.

the puck was at his chest or near his thigh (no where near his skates). during the game they showed every angle possible and the puck clearly hits a stick and bounces up into his chest. the puck is in the air when he gets hit.

having said that, I think there is NO WAY he didn't try to push the puck in with his leg. I sure as hell would and I'm sure his reaction times are a million times faster than mine.

Exactly what is the difference between a kick and pushing with your leg? That sounds biased to me and I couldn't care less who wins.

[Eazy_b97 1]

I don't see it Chadd, from behind I see Lidstrom pushing his knee forward (to buckle him and put'em on his ass) and Hemsky just lets it ride. There's no forward and back motion (kick) when he actually makes contact. Not that I see at least.

[sdh 0]

my point was that there was no kicking motion. the puck wasn't near his foot so there is no reason for there to be. saying he kicked it in with his skate is just wishful thinking of some wings fans :)

my observation is that he intentionally guided it in with his thigh after he was hit by lidstrom, but is that is a hard call to make. there was a "motion" but it is impossibly hard to know if it was the hit or his own momentum or him lifting his thigh that caused the puck to go in the net. I wouldn't fault anyone for calling it either way.

not trying to get flamed here, just trying to be objective (I'm a sharks fan so I don't care who won!)

[UMWhockey 0]

Note to detroit...... if you let a number 8 seed outplay you, then you deserve to loose, even if the goal shouldn't have counted.

[shute 4]

ya i totally agree it was kicked in... if kicking in you mean he somehow "kicked" it with his crotch. the puck was dropped down and not along the ice.

[Miike 1]

ya i totally agree it was kicked in... if kicking in you mean he somehow "kicked" it with his crotch. the puck was dropped down and not along the ice.

You can clearly see no kicking motion with any part of his body, when the puck his in the air around Hemsky, Lidstrom clearly pushed him into the net. Enough said, game over Oilers upset the Wings. Its just a game. Better luck next year.

[Extremo 0]

He knew exactly what he was doing and guided it in with his leg so to answer the question was it kicked in - yes!

However

I agree it's a goal because in my opinion Legace hit it in with his stick. I watched the replay a million times (almost) and i'm sure that when the puck lands back on the ice it is the back of Legace's stick that knocks it into the net....

[Extremo 0]

my observation is that he intentionally guided it in with his thigh after he was hit by lidstrom

I thought that intentionally guiding a puck in with part of your body wasn't allowed and therefore should be no goal?

[chippa13 1844]

The reason the goal wasn't overturned was because you couldn't tell from the replays what the puck bounced in off of. Had that been ruled no goal on the ice then that call would have stood as well because you just couldn't tell from the replays.

My gut feel from the first replay was that Hemsky dragged his foot purposely trying to guide the puck to the net.

[gavin 0]

(1) The high stick. It WAS way above his shoulders but he whacked the stick down and when it made contact with the puck it was below the crossbar, plus it only needed to be below his shoulders, plus they can't review a high sticking call, cause it didn't go in the net!

(2) If Legace didn't suck we wouldn't be talking about this right now. He was LEANING on his catcher which was behind the goal line because he was more concerned about keeping his balance than about keeping his blocker open and firm where it should have been, on the goal line.

(3) Hemsky could have had his eyes shut and body paralysed to score that goal. Lidstrom played the body about 2 seconds too late. And as a result he had no choice but to pick Hemsky up. When Hemsky "kicked" the puck in with his crotch, he was about 4 inches off of the ice. That is not a kicking motion, and certainly not enough to overturn what was declared a goal.

My Coach (hardcore Detroit fan, grew up in D-town, has the bumper stickers etc) said it was no doubt a goal, they shouldn't have even reviewed it.

Playoffs are won on garbage goals. Nothing wrong with that. Point is, Hemsky turned around and made the nicest goal of the series and the nicest assist of the series. TAKE THAT!

[Fonya 0]

The reason the goal wasn't overturned was because you couldn't tell from the replays what the puck bounced in off of. Had that been ruled no goal on the ice then that call would have stood as well because you just couldn't tell from the replays.

My gut feel from the first replay was that Hemsky dragged his foot purposely trying to guide the puck to the net.

Good point. Since it was ruled a goal on ice, they had to prove it wasnt a goal for it to be overturned and from the replays you couldnt prove that it was kicked in because you couldnt see the puck. If it was no goal on the ice, they would have to prove it was a goal which they wouldnt be able to making it no goal.

[ddibrano77 0]

Seem to be a lot of professional goal judges on here, what are you all doing posting when you be should hard at work reviewing goals.

Booo! for the whole reviewing process and how the refs have been calling the entire playoffs (all teams).

[hockechamp14 0]

I have a bigger problem with the way penalties were only called one way rather than the call on the goal.

I saw it, and it looks like he held it into his body with his hand purposely, that shouldn't be a goal.

[Sniper#39 0]

I was at the game - 8 rows up right behind the net - from my vantage I couldn't tell how the puck got into the net - the ref called it a goal - emphatically - and as stated the review in that case would have been to determine whether or not it shouldn't have been - the delay was plenty long enough (felt like forever) so it's not as though the video review gang didn't have ample opportunity to check everything.

Bottom line is they felt there was no conclusive proof that it should reverse the on ice call - Goal!

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