Sprung Hockey

[shaaddy 0]

Absolutely, before i changed to sprungs i was using 4 74a wheels on my mission hilo setup. I switched to sprungs and 78a 76mm wheels and they are fantastic

[nickyb13 9]

Sprung sighting on team Canada at the IIHF worlds

[bones71 1]

Sprung sighting on team Canada at the IIHF worlds

The "Sprung Guy" is Josh Foote. 19 year old who played at Bethel this past year. Also, Ewen MacPherson, backup goalie for Team Canada uses Sprungs. Bethel player as well.

[Sprungster 5]

The "Sprung Guy" is Josh Foote. 19 year old who played at Bethel this past year. Also, Ewen MacPherson, backup goalie for Team Canada uses Sprungs. Bethel player as well.

Adam Ross also got some just before he left for the games, but I guess he didn't get them mounted in time to get used to them.

[bones71 1]

Adam Ross also got some just before he left for the games, but I guess he didn't get them mounted in time to get used to them.

That's correct Keith. It's Jeff by the way.

[bones71 1]

That's correct Keith. It's Jeff by the way.

Adam is interested in Sprungs because of the potential for easy transition and little interference with his ice hockey stride. He is a great test candidate as I believe he turned pro at the conclusion of this season at Merrimack, and he is a world class roller player.

[henryb 4]

The order is in from SinBin, again Jeff, Cam and everyone there were fantastic and over the top helpful in getting everything put together. They had a set of A7's in Team Canada colours... Red base with white arms! They look awesome! They were shipped out yesterday, should be here next week. Including a link to a photo of the chassis.

Oh yes, congrats to Team Canada for the Bronze medal win... 13-7 over Sweden today at the IIHF World Inline Hockey Championships in the Czech Republic.

Red and White Sprungs

[shaaddy 0]

The "Sprung Guy" is Josh Foote. 19 year old who played at Bethel this past year. Also, Ewen MacPherson, backup goalie for Team Canada uses Sprungs. Bethel player as well.

Both excellent players. I am going to be a team mate of theres when I start Bethel in the fall. I also wear sprungs

[Sghockey21 1]

Hi Keith, I have a problem with my Sprungs. Been using my sprungs on an outdoor concrete floor and recently decided to change to a new set of wheels. Unfortunately, the wheels can hardly move when I put weight on it. The wheels have been rubbing on each other and the chassis such that portions of the plastic has worn down (alittle strip of the wheels has also worn off). I tried changing to a different set of new wheels and the same thing happens. There is also some movement on the front 2 arms of both chassis. I remember reading that the plastic can wear down really fast on an outdoor court, but it may also be that the "suspenion rubber"? has become too soft for the weight that I put on it. Do you think it would help if I changed the rubber part to a new one? Or do I have to change new arms or get rid of the chassis completely?

Thanks,

Lester

[shaaddy 0]

Hi Keith, I have a problem with my Sprungs. Been using my sprungs on an outdoor concrete floor and recently decided to change to a new set of wheels. Unfortunately, the wheels can hardly move when I put weight on it. The wheels have been rubbing on each other and the chassis such that portions of the plastic has worn down (alittle strip of the wheels has also worn off). I tried changing to a different set of new wheels and the same thing happens. There is also some movement on the front 2 arms of both chassis. I remember reading that the plastic can wear down really fast on an outdoor court, but it may also be that the "suspenion rubber"? has become too soft for the weight that I put on it. Do you think it would help if I changed the rubber part to a new one? Or do I have to change new arms or get rid of the chassis completely?

Thanks,

Lester

Hey the same thing happened to me recently, remove the "pivot bolt" from between the rockers and inspect the plastic ears that they pivot on. mine were cracked, got some new rockers and put them on, all good now

[althoma1 575]

Hey the same thing happened to me recently, remove the "pivot bolt" from between the rockers and inspect the plastic ears that they pivot on. mine were cracked, got some new rockers and put them on, all good now

+1. You likely have a broken or cracked rocker knuckle and need to change one or more of them. To decrease the chances of this happening again it's a good idea to soak the rockers in water once in a while if you can. The plastic can dry out over time and become more brittle. If you have the A6 I'd also consider ordering an A6X rocker package - they're due out soon and that area is beefed up on the new rockers.

[kovalchuk71 212]

Both excellent players. I am going to be a team mate of theres when I start Bethel in the fall. I also wear sprungs

Your going to have to deal with me then if your going to Bethel haha. ( I play for East Carolina)

[Sghockey21 1]

Nope my arms are all fine. I think it's just that the rubber suspension thing is dead?

[althoma1 575]

Nope my arms are all fine. I think it's just that the rubber suspension thing is dead?

If that's the case, Sprungster gave another tip earlier in the thread for that. Cut some computer/copy paper and wrap it around the outer part of the rubber spring and then reinstall them. That'll make them tighter again until you decide to pick up new springs.

[Sprungster 5]

If that's the case, Sprungster gave another tip earlier in the thread for that. Cut some computer/copy paper and wrap it around the outer part of the rubber spring and then reinstall them. That'll make them tighter again until you decide to pick up new springs.

If it's outdoor silt wear, the springs aren't the problem. The grit gets between the stop lips at the top of the rocker arms and the stops built into the frame body, and wears both of them down till they are both diagonals instead of verticals. When this happens, everything swings freely and the arms and frames are shot. You can take them apart easily to check the wear, front and back. If they aren't worn and it's just fatigued and compressed nylon, the spring wrap will work pretty good to great.

If you play outdoors all the time, you have to clean out the dust as often as you can get yourself to do it. If you keep them clean inside, they will last as long as indoor skates.

[henryb 4]

Hey Keith, would that be the same issue if playing indoor on smooth concrete?

[McLuvin09 0]

If it's outdoor silt wear, the springs aren't the problem. The grit gets between the stop lips at the top of the rocker arms and the stops built into the frame body, and wears both of them down till they are both diagonals instead of verticals. When this happens, everything swings freely and the arms and frames are shot. You can take them apart easily to check the wear, front and back. If they aren't worn and it's just fatigued and compressed nylon, the spring wrap will work pretty good to great.

If you play outdoors all the time, you have to clean out the dust as often as you can get yourself to do it. If you keep them clean inside, they will last as long as indoor skates.

I have had problems with wheels rubbing on the rocker arms of my A6 frames there isn't enough clearance between the arms holding the wheel so what i have been doing is putting washers on both sides of the wheels inside of the arms which flexes the arms out more giving the wheel more room to flex without rubbing on the arm. It hasnt seemed to affect anything else as far as i can tell so maybe try it if Keith agrees...

[henryb 4]

My Sprung's just arrived at the door, so I am off to my local Hockey Shop to do the install.... can't wait to try them out tonight! Will have to arrive early to take a few extra warm-up laps before the game. Will definitely provide an update with first impressions!!!

[shaaddy 0]

Your going to have to deal with me then if your going to Bethel haha. ( I play for East Carolina)

HEY KOVY BEST OF LUCK IN THE COMING SEASON, hope to see you out there.

[shaaddy 0]

Anyone else have issues with multiple broken knuckles on the individual rockers? I took Keiths advice and switched wheel hardness, but after 5-6 games 2 more broken rockers. Any advice is appreciated

[Sghockey21 1]

If it's outdoor silt wear, the springs aren't the problem. The grit gets between the stop lips at the top of the rocker arms and the stops built into the frame body, and wears both of them down till they are both diagonals instead of verticals. When this happens, everything swings freely and the arms and frames are shot. You can take them apart easily to check the wear, front and back. If they aren't worn and it's just fatigued and compressed nylon, the spring wrap will work pretty good to great.

If you play outdoors all the time, you have to clean out the dust as often as you can get yourself to do it. If you keep them clean inside, they will last as long as indoor skates.

Checked my frames and they are indeed worn at the "stops'? I guess that's why there some movement in the arms. I'm going to try using the paper and see if they help. Would changing new springs help with the rubbing for the front?

If it's outdoor silt wear, the springs aren't the problem. The grit gets between the stop lips at the top of the rocker arms and the stops built into the frame body, and wears both of them down till they are both diagonals instead of verticals. When this happens, everything swings freely and the arms and frames are shot. You can take them apart easily to check the wear, front and back. If they aren't worn and it's just fatigued and compressed nylon, the spring wrap will work pretty good to great.

If you play outdoors all the time, you have to clean out the dust as often as you can get yourself to do it. If you keep them clean inside, they will last as long as indoor skates.

Checked my frames and they are indeed worn at the "stops'? I guess that's why there some movement in the arms. I'm going to try using the paper and see if they help. Would changing new springs help with the rubbing for the front?

[althoma1 575]

Anyone else have issues with multiple broken knuckles on the individual rockers? I took Keiths advice and switched wheel hardness, but after 5-6 games 2 more broken rockers. Any advice is appreciated

I have had similar issues in the past, but none so far this season. The plastic can dry out over time making breakage more likely. This year before the season, I took the rockers off and soaked them in water and have done that about once a month since then. This seems to have helped with my A6 rockers. I've also preordered the A6X rockers which will be beefed up in that area so the durability should be further improved.

[bones71 1]

My Sprung's just arrived at the door, so I am off to my local Hockey Shop to do the install.... can't wait to try them out tonight! Will have to arrive early to take a few extra warm-up laps before the game. Will definitely provide an update with first impressions!!!

Hey bhenry - how were the sprungs? we (Sin Bin) were wondering your initial thoughts.

[henryb 4]

Hey bhenry - how were the sprungs? we (Sin Bin) were wondering your initial thoughts.

Hey Guys,

Well as I mentioned in my email to Jeff... I am absolutely thrilled, they work completely as advertised... smooth, quick turns, starts and stops all improved. Before I get into all of those details, let me start at the beginning. I worked with Derek at Ajax Source for Sports to do the installation on my Bauer Vapor RX:60's. We worked on using the Graf t-nut installation, but we ran into a number of issues with the wings on the sides of the t-nuts. So, we eventually decided to go with a rivet installation (they do have a rivet machine). To ensure we did as solid an install as possible, we used coppers in all 4 rear-mount positions and 2 of the front-mount positions with regular rivets in the remainder. We followed the manufacturer instructions, and took your suggestion of cheating to the inside at the front just a little.

I had a game on the evening that I got the Sprung's, so to get a bit of a warm-up, I ventured over to one of the outdoor roller rinks in Whitby (which are both freshly refinished, smooth concrete). Since I didn't have any complete sets of 80mm wheels, so I had to use a combination of what I had available. I used a combination of Red and Orange Addictions. Not exactly what I would use for concrete, but that's all I had.

The very first thing that I noticed, was just how smooth they glided over the fresh smooth concrete surface! The next thing the jumped out was the quick turns, I tried a couple of very tight turns, that would have previously with the Vanguard setup, caused a chattery type of turn (smaller radius then what 4 wheels can turn)... but with the Sprungs, I whipped around the turn nice and smooth. It was actually quite surprising just how smooth it was! I wondered if it was a just a fluke, so I repeated the turns, with increased speed and agressive attack... every time was the same deal... they just hung on and came around like... well, like on ice!

I read somewhere on here that some people had difficulty with backwards cross-over's, so I was anxious to give that a try as well. No problem, they were fantastic! Again, smooth and fast. I have been a Hockey School instructor for more then 10 years, so I have trained myself to always use extremely good form and technique (always a good idea for the instructor to skate with precise technique, to demonstate well).

The next thing that I was most excited about, was the "kick" that was advertised on the starts! I guess being out on the outdoor rink by myself, it was kind of difficult to tell if I had quicker starts or not? I certainly could feel the "Sprung" effect during starts and turns... but I couldn't really tell if my starts were quicker or not. That might become more evident in games?

The next thing was the stops, and right off I could tell that stopping was somehow easier. I'm not exactly sure of why this area of inline skating is improved, but it was immediately apparent! It is kind of hard to accurately describe, but I would have to say stopping was more like "ice" stops... not exactly, but far better then with solid chassis.

During the game that evening, it was the turning ability that really paid off in spades, I was able to spin away from opponents that are far younger and with higher skill level (I am 51 years old and I play in a division with 18-35 year olds). The next thing that jumped off the page was the reaction of other players when I was able to outrace them to an open area for a pass or sprint into a corner to get to the puck first. So although, I couldn't tell on the outdoor rink, it did appear quite obvious that I had far more jump in my step!

All I can say is, I really don't understand how these chassis have not taken over the sport... at least here in Canada where everyone plays ice hockey since they were four! I am interested to see if the report of going back and forth between ice and roller is fairly seemless.

After I get a few more games under my belt, I will provide another update on how they perform! Thanks again to the guys at SinBin, I much appreciate all of your fantastic service and getting me the Sprung's so quickly. I would be interested to try the Mag-Alloy versions when they come out.

[iceburg19 1]

henryb,

welcome to the world of sprung, its like a best kept secret, but you want to share with everyone and anyone who will listen.could you imagine these frames as a mag alloy on any inline skate out of the box, and a first time user skating on them.