Sprung Hockey

[henryb 4]

Question about frequency of rehydration... I take my A7 arms off about once a month and soak them in a bowl of water, typically overnight.

How often do people do this? I know there are alot of environmental factors: humidity, usage, etc. I live in Ontario, where it is quite humid in the summer, when I play 3-4 times a week. In the winter it is quite dry, but I only play once a week (ice hockey takes priority)!

I have heard that some other sprung users just remove their wheels, leaving the arms on the chassis and just wrap the arms in a wet towel. Is this technique really good enough?

The other question I have is, how long is long enough for each rehydration session? Would an hour be good enough, or is overnight required?Any other ideas or thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

[wetwilly17 6]

i soaked my a7's arms once. i decided it was easier and probably just as effective, to leave them in the bathroom when i shower. since i dry my skates after every skate, i wasn't concerned with the skate accumulating moisture (they never did and never smelled).

[iceburg19 1]

once a month should be fine. I do the same thing, take the rockers apart, clean everything and soak over night. wrapping a towel around is fine also, but I want to make sure mine are inspected and cleaned. just good habbits.

[henryb 4]

I really like the idea of the shower steam rehydration technique! But I do think it is worth taking them apart once a month to clean and inspect! If I use a combination of all these techniques, maybe I could get away with just an hour or so on the monthly full soak?

[notquitedeadyet 13]

Meant to post this earlier but forgot; I was in a LHS in Jersey a few weeks ago & there was 4 sets of sprungs still in plastic hanging on the wall. I think 3 were A6 & 1 was A7.

If this interests anyone, I could probably figure out where it was

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Meant to post this earlier but forgot; I was in a LHS in Jersey a few weeks ago & there was 4 sets of sprungs still in plastic hanging on the wall. I think 3 were A6 & 1 was A7.

If this interests anyone, I could probably figure out where it was

I sent you a message, thanks!

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Hey guys, because of the extra grip sprungs provide, is it a good idea to buy wheels one hardness level higher than usual? I usually use a 74 or 76a, will i get better performance with a 76 or 78a wheel?

[althoma1 575]

Hey guys, because of the extra grip sprungs provide, is it a good idea to buy wheels one hardness level higher than usual? I usually use a 74 or 76a, will i get better performance with a 76 or 78a wheel?

Yes, I've found that I can use harder wheels with Sprungs. If you use wheels that are too soft it can feel like you're skating in mud, but if you use harder wheels they're great. I'd lean toward the 78a wheels or a mix of 76a and 78a if you're used to 74a and 76a. I'd stay away from the 74a wheels as they'll be too soft for the Sprungs.

[Kyle Friedman 9]

thanks, If i go with addictions because they are already a hard wheel do you think id be good with a 76a xxx addiction? (what iv used on previous chassis in the past) or should i go for the 78a addictions?

Or perhaps a setup like 78a-76a-76a-78a having the first and last wheels harder.

[althoma1 575]

I find with Sprungs the back wheel takes the most abuse and wears fastest so if you're going to mix wheels it's definitely a good idea to have the hardest wheels at the back.

The precise hardness depends on your weight - personally I currently use all 78a Revision Variant Steel wheels and am happy with that setup, but I'm north of 200lbs. I've also used 78a Hot Shots for the first three wheels with an 80a on the back and before that I used Revision Bronze wheels (76a). If I were getting the Additictions I'd probably go with the harder Orange ones, but if you're under 200lbs then the slightly softer Red ones should be fine (maybe grab one harder one for each skate to put on the back). You just want to avoid the super soft wheels.

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Okay thanks for the input! I weigh in at about 5'9 145lbs if that makes a big difference. Because i weigh under 150 im worried the harder orange addictions might make me slip around alot.

I also sent you a message with a few other questions, thanks for the input its appriciated!

[althoma1 575]

Okay thanks for the input! I weigh in at about 5'9 145lbs if that makes a big difference. Because i weigh under 150 im worried the harder orange addictions might make me slip around alot.

I also sent you a message with a few other questions, thanks for the input its appriciated!

If you're only 145lbs then you should be fine with the softer red addictions. They'll still be hard enough to not bog down the Sprungs while providing good grip. That's based on what I've read of the Addictions as I haven't used those wheels myself - I've only used Revisions and Rink Rats on Sport Court in recent years.

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Okay, Thanks for the input!

[henryb 4]

I used a combo of Orange Addictions on the inside with Red Addictions on the outside last year, they worked quite well. This year I found a much better combination with Revision Variants... Bronze on the inside and Gold on the outside. However I weigh a bit more then you around 175lbs. Grip was noticably better, durability better... And they didn't loose that perform like new feeling! Truely the best wheel I have ever used... in my opinion!

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Sweet, thanks iv been wanting to try the revision wheels, might give them a shot. If i use them I would probably go all golds though and im worried it might feel like im skating in mud because iv been using 76a addictions recently, all 74a wheels might feel too soft, I do only weigh 145 though.

[romdj 26]

well I must say that I mounted some a6's the other day, I skated 200m with them and absolutely loved them, they just felt great...until I jumped something like 15" high and broke one of the pieces... don't think these will get my 150$ again...

[henryb 4]

Sweet, thanks iv been wanting to try the revision wheels, might give them a shot. If i use them I would probably go all golds though and im worried it might feel like im skating in mud because iv been using 76a addictions recently, all 74a wheels might feel too soft, I do only weigh 145 though.

[henryb 4]

That's what happens when you use your phone to type replies!!! Anyways, what was going to say is... I think you might be ok with all Golds, certainly you will have wicked grip. I use a combo of Gold and Bronze. It really comes down to how much grip you want vs speed. I find the combo setup to be just about right for me. That being said, I was thinking about testing an all Bronze set up this fall. Might make it easier to stay ahead of (or should I say keep up with) those young guys in the league!

[Kyle Friedman 9]

Thanks for the reply haha, Yeah im thinking i might go for the revisions when I buy wheels next, Im just excited to mount my sprungs and try them out. Coming from a hum'er frame and not completly loving it, im sure ill love them! I just need to deside what boot I want to buy to mount them on. Kinda trying to wait until my Tour ex1s are completly dead as well, and they are getting there fast.

[romdj 26]

hey guys,

I'm not really satisfied with the molding of my u+ boot that are mounted on an A6 frame. I'd consider putting it in the oven, but since sprungs are made of plastic, I figured 100°C wasn't the best idea. Any of you guys have comments to make so I can mold my boot without ruining the frames?

[kerr 1]

Remove the rocker arms and bushings/springs (they will melt).

Edit: oops

[Sprungster 5]

hey guys,

I'm not really satisfied with the molding of my u+ boot that are mounted on an A6 frame. I'd consider putting it in the oven, but since sprungs are made of plastic, I figured 100°C wasn't the best idea. Any of you guys have comments to make so I can mold my boot without ruining the frames?

The arms are made of the same material as the frame body, and the heat needed to mold your boots won't hurt either part. The springs are made of the same material as wheels, and the heat won't hurt the wheels or the springs. You aren't supposed to skate on the boots until the recommended cooling period.is done. I've cooked boots a few times in an hour, in my old fashioned oven, and thrown them in the freezer, and skated on them sooner. With that said, 170-180 F is the maximum temp I use, and it's always done the trick.

[romdj 26]

The arms are made of the same material as the frame body, and the heat needed to mold your boots won't hurt either part. The springs are made of the same material as wheels, and the heat won't hurt the wheels or the springs. You aren't supposed to skate on the boots until the recommended cooling period.is done. I've cooked boots a few times in an hour, in my old fashioned oven, and thrown them in the freezer, and skated on them sooner. With that said, 170-180 F is the maximum temp I use, and it's always done the trick.

Cool, thank you! I really appreciate that.

[Sprungster 5]

I just finished measuring the front to rear pitch of all of the frames I have.

The original 72-80 aluminum Sprung prototype.

Sprung A6.

Sprung A7/8

Mission 72-80 Hi-Lo #1 with asymmetrical right and left front mount plates

Mission 72-80 Hi-Lo #2 with symmetrical right/left front mount plates

Labeda Hum'er

Mission 76-80 Hi-Lo

To get the most accurate measurement from each frame, I aligned the top edge of a piece of stiff metal tape with the centers of the front two wheel axles, and aligned a second piece to the rear two axle centers. Next, I measured the the top of lowest point of the front mount plate down to the top edge of the front tape. Then, I measured from the top of highest point of the rear mount plate down to the top edge of the rear tape. This gives me the two dimensions needed to determine the Pitch of each frame Vs the ground.

To arrive at the Pitch, you divide the smaller front measurement by the larger rear measurement. When you get your answer, you move the decimal point two digits to the right and you have the percentage that the first measurement is of the second measurement. You then subtract this percentage from one hundred percent, and you have the Pitch.

So you can compare your measurements with mine, I'm listing the front measurement, the rear measurement, the front to rear percentage and the Pitch percentage.

1) Sprung A7/8 - F 1.660", R 2.465", 67.343%, Pitch 32.657%*

2) Sprung A6 - F 1.650", R 2.450", 67.347%, Pitch 32.653%*

3) Mission 72-80 Hi-Lo #2 with symmetrical right/left front mount plates - F 1.425", R 2.055", 69.343%, Pitch 30.657%

4) Labeda Hum'er - F 1.465", R 2.101", 69.279%, Pitch 30.271%

5) Mission 72-80 Hi-Lo #1 with asymmetrical right and left front mount plates - F 1.520", R 2.090", 72.727%, Pitch 27.273%

6) The original 72-80 aluminum Sprung prototype. Sprung A6 - F 1.750", R 2.400", 72.917%, Pitch 27.083%*

7) Mission 76-80 Hi-Lo - F 1.695", R 2.055", 82.482%, Pitch 17.518%

This is only the pitch of the frame. There is also the combination of the molded in pitch of the sole plate, along with the interior foot bed heel lift of each boot. Then there is the forward pitch of the heel/tendon guard vs the ground.

* Because Sprungs are not rigid, the frame pitch can become much more, or much less, as needed.

[fatwabbit 93]

So that means that sprungs have the most aggressive pitch forward?