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Hi guys, I'm 16 and 8 month, 6'1 , 190lbs. I recently bought a bottle of optimum whey protein.

-I'm going to the gym 3x a week. I'm mixing 2 scoop of optimum powder with 600 ml of milk which make a nice 70gr of protein, that i bring to the gym. Am I right?

-I Take about 100-125 gr of protein the day i go to the gym and around 80-100 the day i don't go.

Is this right? Any advice? :rolleyes:

#2. Is their a way to know your BODY FAT without paying the big $$ to get evaluate by a trainer??!

Thanks you, much appreciate it!

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Hi guys, I'm 16 and 8 month, 6'1 , 190lbs. I recently bought a bottle of optimum whey protein.

-I'm going to the gym 3x a week. I'm mixing 2 scoop of optimum powder with 600 ml of milk which make a nice 70gr of protein, that i bring to the gym. Am I right?

-I Take about 100-125 gr of protein the day i go to the gym and around 80-100 the day i don't go.

Is this right? Any advice? :rolleyes:

#2. Is their a way to know your BODY FAT without paying the big $$ to get evaluate by a trainer??!

Thanks you, much appreciate it!

Protein is great for football players and body builders but I don't know of any hockey players that take it.

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Oh, and for the body fat, they have like surveys on the internet where you measure your waist, neck, etc. and depending on your body type, can be fairly accurate.

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Hi guys, I'm 16 and 8 month, 6'1 , 190lbs. I recently bought a bottle of optimum whey protein.

-I'm going to the gym 3x a week. I'm mixing 2 scoop of optimum powder with 600 ml of milk which make a nice 70gr of protein, that i bring to the gym. Am I right?

-I Take about 100-125 gr of protein the day i go to the gym and around 80-100 the day i don't go.

Is this right? Any advice? :blink:

#2. Is their a way to know your BODY FAT without paying the big $$ to get evaluate by a trainer??!

Thanks you, much appreciate it!

Protein is great for football players and body builders but I don't know of any hockey players that take it.

Lots of hockey players take it....the instructor at my camp is advising everyone to drink a protein shake or have a protein bar after every icetime.

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Hi guys, I'm 16 and 8 month, 6'1 , 190lbs. I recently bought a bottle of optimum whey protein.

-I'm going to the gym 3x a week. I'm mixing 2 scoop of optimum powder with 600 ml of milk which make a nice 70gr of protein, that i bring to the gym. Am I right?

-I Take about 100-125 gr of protein the day i go to the gym and around 80-100 the day i don't go.

Is this right? Any advice? :blink:

#2. Is their a way to know your BODY FAT without paying the big $$ to get evaluate by a trainer??!

Thanks you, much appreciate it!

Protein is great for football players and body builders but I don't know of any hockey players that take it.

protein is a supplement to supplement a diet that doesn't give you the protein your body needs. it doesn't matter what sport you play or what you do.

as for the questions at hand:

if you weigh that much, get more protein.

& for bodyfat, you can do a 5 point caliper test to get some idea, but mostly at your age, i wouldn't worry terribly about it.

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Hi guys, I'm 16 and 8 month, 6'1 , 190lbs. I recently bought a bottle of optimum whey protein.

-I'm going to the gym 3x a week. I'm mixing 2 scoop of optimum powder with 600 ml of milk which make a nice 70gr of protein, that i bring to the gym. Am I right?

-I Take about 100-125 gr of protein the day i go to the gym and around 80-100 the day i don't go.

Is this right? Any advice? :blink:

#2. Is their a way to know your BODY FAT without paying the big $$ to get evaluate by a trainer??!

Thanks you, much appreciate it!

Protein is great for football players and body builders but I don't know of any hockey players that take it.

are you retarded? i'm pretty sure hockey players go to the gym to get bigger, faster stronger. i'm pretty sure in doing this they're breaking their muscles down. and i'm pretty sure you need protein to rebuild the broken down muscle.

the hockey players you know must just be naturally gifted, or lazy slobs.

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#2. Is their a way to know your BODY FAT without paying the big $$ to get evaluate by a trainer??!

You can get a digital scale at most larger stores that will also calculate your percentage body fat based on your weight, height, and gender. I use something like this:

Tanita scale

It measures the impedance of your body and compares it to known tables of impedence versus body fat percentage, adjusted for height, weight, and age. It's pretty accurate, to the point where my body fat % will vary throughout the day depending on my hydration status (more hydrated, less % body fat because more % body water).

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Hi guys, I'm 16 and 8 month, 6'1 , 190lbs. I recently bought a bottle of optimum whey protein.

-I'm going to the gym 3x a week. I'm mixing 2 scoop of optimum powder with 600 ml of milk which make a nice 70gr of protein, that i bring to the gym. Am I right?

-I Take about 100-125 gr of protein the day i go to the gym and around 80-100 the day i don't go.

Is this right? Any advice? :unsure:

Thanks you, much appreciate it!

There are a few things wrong here:

1a) Your body can only handle 20-30 grams of protein every few hours. When you juice that much at one concentrated point (70 g's), you are wasting your time. Cut this down, have a pre-workout shake (expendable) and a post-workout shake (necessary).

1b) You should be taking in a gram of protein/pound on your body, daily. 190lbs = 190 g/protein. This is widely speculated, people always bicker over how much you really should be taking in and if it is seriously taxing your kidneys and livers. However, nothing has been proven and as far as I am aware, no bodybuilders have died before the age of 60 due to kidney/liver problems. Bodybuilders obviously taking their diets much more intensely, therefore you have nothing to worry about with a healthy liver/kidney. In short, you should be taking in 190 grams of protein on top of your daily protein intake from meals.

A good protein diet would be something like this:

1. Morning Protein Shake

2. Snack (Tuna/Nuts)

3. Before Workout Protein Shake

4. Post Workout Protein Shake

5. Dinner (20 grams or so)

6. Nut product (15 g)

7. Sleep Protein Shake (Casein Protein) - Casein protein being a dairy product (cottage cheese, milk, etc). It is absorbed slower which allows your body to build muscle while you sleep.

On top of all of this you should be taking in your normal protein from breakfast/lunch and snacks.

I realize this is intense but, this is what you need to be doing if you want to make serious gains. This should be your daily protein intake, no different on workout days or non-workout days.

2) As far as body fat, the Tanita scale doesn't do much in the way of determining it. Honestly I would just suggest asking about it at your gym, see if they have a body fat calibrator (measuring stick of body fat).

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2) As far as body fat, the Tanita scale doesn't do much in the way of determining it. Honestly I would just suggest asking about it at your gym, see if they have a body fat calibrator (measuring stick of body fat).

I'll take my scale against your calipers any day of the week :)

Seriously, the two methods are approximately equivalent to each other. Unless you enjoy being weighed underwater or being exposed to X-ray irradiation, the scale is just more convenient.

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2) As far as body fat, the Tanita scale doesn't do much in the way of determining it. Honestly I would just suggest asking about it at your gym, see if they have a body fat calibrator (measuring stick of body fat).

I'll take my scale against your calipers any day of the week :)

Seriously, the two methods are approximately equivalent to each other. Unless you enjoy being weighed underwater or being exposed to X-ray irradiation, the scale is just more convenient.

I actually have one of those scales :D. I've never met anyone else with it, so I had to speak from personal experience. It was off by 7% on my body.

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Are you sure the calipers were accurate (ie. did you get yourself tested with a true reference method, or did you choose the lower measurement as being "better")? It seems that both body fat calipers and body impedance analysis are a bit off from the reference methods, but consistently so. For purposes of measuring relative progess in changing (increasing, hopefully) muscle mass relative to body fat, either method would suffice, as long as one method is used consistently. Switching between the two methods would be really confusing, as you wouldn't know whether the change in the number is because of your training (a "real" change) or an artifact of the difference in methodology.

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Edit: lol, Sherwood what do you eat for dinner that has only 20 Grams of protein in it? Check the nutrition facts on a steak or chicken breast. Your tuna "snack" which is one can I'm assuming has almost 45g protein.

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1a) Your body can only handle 20-30 grams of protein every few hours. When you juice that much at one concentrated point (70 g's), you are wasting your time. Cut this down, have a pre-workout shake (expendable) and a post-workout shake (necessary).

i agree with everything you said except for this.

i won't turn this into a pissing match, as most of these threads are destined for. but if you wanna get more than 30g, i think thats fine. it does depend on what type of protein it is & whatnot. not even talking cottage cheese. even like a burger because of the fat will take longer to digest. if we're talking whey, limit it to maybe 40-45. but its def not a waste.

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That's fine, no need for anyone to get excited about this...

The problem with supplements, weight gaining, casein, soy, whey, etc, all that business is that it isn't an exact science. Everyone and their dog has an opinion on it, once people find what works for them they stick to it. Ive developed that program through trial and error and it pertains directly to cobra's question so I chimed in.

As far as tuna...its sad to have to resort to it...:

http://www.tunafacts.com/health/values.cfm.

The type I was referring to has 23 g. I don't eat it because I cant stand the taste, but it is a good source. Eating a whole can would be excessive, 100-150 grams of it is fine for a snack. i just woke up and was a little iffy when i wrote all that

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I think for most people, the quest to measure body fat is a bit overrated. I've used calipers (cheap store-bought ones), a Tanita scale, and had a personal trainer eyeball and estimate me, and they've all given me pretty different percentages. From what I've read, the most accurate measure is to have the tub dunk, and even that is only accurate for people who have moderately high amounts of body fat, not so much for people who are particularly athletic and lean.

Unless the case is that you need a really precise measurement, I think the simplest thing to do is a) look in the mirror and b) pinch your skin. Know what level you're at now and have an idea of where you want to be.

It's all relative.

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Thanks all of you for your reply.

1) As of my protein drink, i'm at the gym for 1h30 and i do 30 min of cardio so actually that is 70gr for 2 hours. I try to eat the more meat i can, but i'm just a 16yr old guy, I don't want to take it as seriously as a bodybuilder you see lol.. but i try the best i can to eat protein over other type of food

2) As for the BODYFAT, i always consider myselft ''a bit'' fat compared to the rest of my team even at 6'1... so I was wondering, out of curiosty, how much i have fat in my body!

i'e: My best friend who won the all the record in our school this year in term of cross-country,running,endurance.He also play hockey but he is not very good, so i would say he is more athletic. However, after a endurance test we did, he said to me,

''Damn, that really good, considering your weight and fat'' he is like 5'7 155..

thanks again guys, keep posting if you have something to add!

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