Stick warranties

[pmr149 0]

Does anyone besides me think 30 days is to short for a warrenty. Lacrosse sticks have a full year warrenty on them. I know hockey sticks are less durable but they should be atleast 50 or 60 days. I don't know maybe it is just me.

[jimmy 194]

Personally, I think they should have no warranty, seing how people abuse them. A stick breaking due to manufacturers defect is fairly rare. And remember, wood sticks have never had a warranty.

[chk hrd 164]

Does anyone besides me think 30 days is to short for a warrenty. Lacrosse sticks have a full year warrenty on them. I know hockey sticks are less durable but they should be atleast 50 or 60 days. I don't know maybe it is just me.

lacrosse sticks are made out of aluminum with a decent wall thickness, thicker than the aluminum hockey shaftsshafts. Plus the shape of the shaft gives it additional strength.

You don't see to many sticks break because of manufacturing defects. It's on ice activities (slashing, banging, etc) that does them in. Alls that it takes is one weak spot on the shaft from a nick or cut and it's history.

[DarkStar50 680]

Extend the warranty time frame and I promise you OPS would be even more expensive in your LHS. Would you pay more just for another 30 days?

[pmr149 0]

I see what you are saying but it sucks paying 150+ for a stick that will break in a few weeks...maybe it would be a good idea to bump stick prices up a little, but get a guarenteed warrenty stick

[ctaz 0]

maybe it should be an add-on expense, you have to purchase the warranty for your stick if you want it and it would still only cover manufacturing defects, but it would be over 60 days.

[whbd18 0]

maybe it should be an add-on expense, you have to purchase the warranty for your stick if you want it and it would still only cover manufacturing defects, but it would be over 60 days.

Its not a defect if it lasts over 60 days, infact if your stick is defected it would break in that 30 day time period.

[dietzie27 0]

they should just come in 2-packs with no warranty.

[hockeymom 2]

they should just come in 2-packs with no warranty.

2 packs would probably be too high of a price point for most people. Everyone believes/hopes THEIR stick isn't going to break...LOL

[DarkStar50 680]

they should just come in 2-packs with no warranty.

Next question: Are you going to drop $350/$400 at once for 2 OPS? Might as well buy a dozen woodies and take your time thrashing through those.

Or buy Pro Stock with no warranty for $140/$150.

[ctaz 0]

they should just come in 2-packs with no warranty.

I would have bought the Mission sticks a year or two ago that came with a spare composite blade, though I can't recall if the stick was just a fused ops or if it was a all-composite 2 piece stick. Rather than buy 2 ops, of course, if you can afford to buy 4 ops a season or more why not just buy them 2 at a time.

[Deano11 0]

What is bullshit is the number of people who abuse the 30 day warranty. The vast majority of sticks that come back are broken because of slashes, skate cuts etc, yet retailers and manufacturers continue to take them back as long as the warranty period hasn't expired. Double the warranty period and you'll double the number of sticks that come back. That added cost needs to be absorbed somewhere, and guess what? The price of sticks keeps going up. Most (if not all) of the big hockey companies are losing money as it is. Retailers are struggling too. Next time you hear about someone who successfully scammed a company or retailer out of a free stick, instead of congratulating them, ask them to chip in for your next stick.

[Perry94 0]

yah, what he said ^^

The warranty is for any DEFECT in the manufacturing process: this implies that if your stick hasn't broken after the first couple of uses, the company is not obliged to fulfill the warranty. You can't expect the stick to still be in one piece after you wack it over the crossbar because you suck and can't play properly.

[kosydar 0]

I've always thought they should come with the option of a warranty. If you don't want it, the stick would in theory be closer to $100-120. I remember a few years ago someone posted the ratio of the amount of sticks that a company (I think Easton) sent to stores to be sold to the amount of sticks kept to be warranty replacement. It was ridiculous, I'm sure someone remembers it more clearly.

[Perry94 0]

I've always thought they should come with the option of a warranty.  If you don't want it, the stick would in theory be closer to $100-120.  I remember a few years ago someone posted the ratio of the amount of sticks that a company (I think Easton) sent to stores to be sold to the amount of sticks kept to be warranty replacement.  It was ridiculous, I'm sure someone remembers it more clearly.

Yah, I agree with that.

When you think about it, it works better than the current system. Reduce the stick price by, I dunno, 20%. Make that extra 20% the price of the warranty. Chances are, people will be cheap and NOT get the warranty. Assuming that the breakage rate of sticks are relatively constant, the companies will probably make a much bigger profit.

Of course, this would work both ways, as the average hockey player who wouldn't normally dream of owning that latest-greatest hockey stick because of the price can now afford them. That draws more people to the high-end stick market.

Too bad no-one in the business thinks like that eh, Kosydar? :lol:

[nummer55 10]

Another problem is that every player plays hockey for a different amount of time in 30 days. Some players practice every day, others one hour per week. The product is built to last for a certain amount of use, which forces them to average it to 30 days.

[dietzie27 0]

i was only kidding on the 2-packs guys. i just meant instead of breaking one and sending it back you just have the 2nd.

[Chadd 916]

I've always thought they should come with the option of a warranty.  If you don't want it, the stick would in theory be closer to $100-120.  I remember a few years ago someone posted the ratio of the amount of sticks that a company (I think Easton) sent to stores to be sold to the amount of sticks kept to be warranty replacement.  It was ridiculous, I'm sure someone remembers it more clearly.

Yah, I agree with that.

When you think about it, it works better than the current system. Reduce the stick price by, I dunno, 20%. Make that extra 20% the price of the warranty. Chances are, people will be cheap and NOT get the warranty. Assuming that the breakage rate of sticks are relatively constant, the companies will probably make a much bigger profit.

Of course, this would work both ways, as the average hockey player who wouldn't normally dream of owning that latest-greatest hockey stick because of the price can now afford them. That draws more people to the high-end stick market.

Too bad no-one in the business thinks like that eh, Kosydar? :lol:

That method doesn't work simply because the shop has to buy the stick from the manufacturer. Eliminating the warranty saves the manufacturer money, not the shop, so there is no way a shop will discount a stick if you promise not to return it.

[pmr149 0]

A stick rarely breaks from a manufactuer defect...we all know that but it is bullshit paying 150-200 for a stick that will break in 2-5 weeks. They should lower the prices then maybe ppl wouldnt abuse it and just buy a new stick.. It doesnt take close to 200 dollers to make a stick. They should have 2-4 pack options were the price would be less if u got it... Like for a stealth instead of 200 for 1...250 for 2

I dunno something needs to be changed

[DamnLocust 0]

I like the idea of making the warranty optional, but I think the warranty is what makes some people justify the purchase. If you drop $150 on a stick and it breaks the next day with no warranty, it's a shitty feeling. The warranty gives you that fuzzy feeling inside that makes you say "if it breaks, it's warranteed and they'll give me another one."

Personally, I don't break sticks often anyway, and would prefer to be paying less with no warranty. Losing the one stick out of 10 that breaks quickly is worth it when they're costing $30-40 less per stick.

[G.M. 0]

Does anyone besides me think 30 days is to short for a warrenty. Lacrosse sticks have a full year warrenty on them. I know hockey sticks are less durable but they should be atleast 50 or 60 days. I don't know maybe it is just me.

Just use an AMEX to pay for the stick. They double the manufacturers warranty on items purchased. I'm not sure about hockey sticks, but hey, why not?

[SickLife 2]

What is bullshit is the number of people who abuse the 30 day warranty. The vast majority of sticks that come back are broken because of slashes, skate cuts etc, yet retailers and manufacturers continue to take them back as long as the warranty period hasn't expired. Double the warranty period and you'll double the number of sticks that come back. That added cost needs to be absorbed somewhere, and guess what? The price of sticks keeps going up. Most (if not all) of the big hockey companies are losing money as it is. Retailers are struggling too. Next time you hear about someone who successfully scammed a company or retailer out of a free stick, instead of congratulating them, ask them to chip in for your next stick.

i'll agree with that, to an extent. but what about the recreational player who will only use it a few times in that month? or someone like me who only uses a OPS for games when i'm playing in a nice surface rink, as not to damage the blade.

i'll agree with whoever said they should have the option of a warrenty for more money at the time of purchase.

or maybe not even a full free stick, but maybe free within 30 days, or half the price of the stick within 90.

[Chadd 916]

What is bullshit is the number of people who abuse the 30 day warranty. The vast majority of sticks that come back are broken because of slashes, skate cuts etc, yet retailers and manufacturers continue to take them back as long as the warranty period hasn't expired. Double the warranty period and you'll double the number of sticks that come back. That added cost needs to be absorbed somewhere, and guess what? The price of sticks keeps going up. Most (if not all) of the big hockey companies are losing money as it is. Retailers are struggling too. Next time you hear about someone who successfully scammed a company or retailer out of a free stick, instead of congratulating them, ask them to chip in for your next stick.

i'll agree with that, to an extent. but what about the recreational player who will only use it a few times in that month? or someone like me who only uses a OPS for games when i'm playing in a nice surface rink, as not to damage the blade.

i'll agree with whoever said they should have the option of a warrenty for more money at the time of purchase.

or maybe not even a full free stick, but maybe free within 30 days, or half the price of the stick within 90.

The warranty is for manufacturing defect. If your stick really has a defect, it will almost always break within the first couple shots. Any other breakage should really not be honored.

[mew1838 0]

The companies are making too much money anyway.

[Chadd 916]

The companies are making too much money anyway.

Then stop buying their gear.