Is lie the most important thing if using different blades?

[martywest 0]

If using different sticks and different blade patterns, should you at least try to stick to the same lie? Also, what is the most accurate blade resource? Every place I look has different information about the same blades? Example, I've seen a Crosby blade listed as a 5, 5.5, an 6 lie, on three different sites? Would the companys website be the most accurate?

[KBO25 0]

2-things I can add here.

1) This site is a real good resource for pattern info. Tipically the manufacturer is wrong about their lie info. So I would use this site as your pattern "bible".

2) As far as lie being the most important thing when choosing a pattern; If you have a lie that works well for you, it probably is the most important thing. I have found, that a 5 lie works really well for me. I expirement with 5.5, but even then I feel like I need to cut my stick and i hate to do that. With a 5 lie, I feel I can have the perfect stick length, and I never have to think about all the blade being on the ice. I just got a Hex-1 w/Rafalski pattern as a warranty replacement. I used it the other night un-cut, and it lasted like 2 shifts. I found myself thinking about it too much. I went right back to my tapered shaft w/a Modano blade in it.

[Chadd 916]

Lie is the most important factor for me, though not everyone is as fanatical about it as I am.

[Jarick 5]

Lie is most important for me too...I can adjust to a different pattern relatively quickly, but I can't adjust to a different lie without cutting the stick (and I still wouldn't play the same). Too much poke checking and shot blocking.

[Remman 0]

I find a 6 lie to be well suited for me. Besides the Bauer P88 pattern, I can't find another 6 lie curve I like. But I am finding it hard to find bauer replacement blades as I don't like Bauer shafts so I won't buy the whole stick. When using a lower lie, I find it effects my wrist shot the most.

[acollette49 0]

+ or - .5 in the lie makes little difference to me. its the where the blade curves that matters to me. i can play with heels and mids all day...cant do a damn thing with a toe.

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

So, can I piggyback a question to the mods here.

In the pattern DB, does a 5 mean a 5 mean a 5 regardless of the manufacturer.

Say I have a stick with the perfect lie, but want to try another curve, going on the MSH pattern DB, if I keep the lie consistent, but search other variables and manufacturers, should the lie be pretty much the same?

Am I even making sense

[Remman 0]

Good question. You mean is a Bauer 5 lie the same as a CCM 5 lie?

I think the amount of curve may have efffect on the lie.

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Good question. You mean is a Bauer 5 lie the same as a CCM 5 lie?

I think the amount of curve may have efffect on the lie.

Exactly, specifically regarding this board.

I know someone here said the pattern DB here is true lie, regardless of what manufacturers put on their catalog.

So, if say a Bauer curve, with a 5 lie, as listed by the MSH pattern DB is perfect for me, theoretically, would any pattern listed here with the 5 lie (rocker allowed for), be right for me.

So if I wanted to keep the right lie, but try different curves, I could just go do a search with the only variable being 5, and know what would work for me.

[TBLfan 25]

The amount of rocker can effect how you perceive the lie of a blade.

The pattern DB on here will give you the most accurate descriptions of patterns you can find.

[opus22 0]

The amount of rocker can effect how you perceive the lie of a blade.

The pattern DB on here will give you the most accurate descriptions of patterns you can find.

i was always a pattern freak, looking for the right toe shape...rocker...blah blah blah. i never found anything perfect. i alwasy had a feeling i was a lower lie guy. i stuck with the modo and then the heatley and i know now lie is pretty crucial. i get the feeling i could use any pattern if its the right lie. i always loved rocker cuz it made up for the lie being wrong. i could never have used a squarish toe like the heatley with the higher lies i used, now i think i could even use a lidstrom if it was a 4.5-5.

i think its a real good idea to find out what your lie should be and stick with it for awhile. i still lose the puck in my feet on occasion, too used to a sakic - but my shot and overall comfort has really gone up since i stuck with lower lie.

easton's lie are all off compared to what the others have used. compare an iggy to a recchi, the recchi is closer to a forsberg than to the iggy. ditto the coffey curve.

warrior.....i just have no idea.

[--notorious 0]

The amount of rocker can effect how you perceive the lie of a blade.

The pattern DB on here will give you the most accurate descriptions of patterns you can find.

i was always a pattern freak, looking for the right toe shape...rocker...blah blah blah. i never found anything perfect. i alwasy had a feeling i was a lower lie guy. i stuck with the modo and then the heatley and i know now lie is pretty crucial. i get the feeling i could use any pattern if its the right lie. i always loved rocker cuz it made up for the lie being wrong. i could never have used a squarish toe like the heatley with the higher lies i used, now i think i could even use a lidstrom if it was a 4.5-5.

i think its a real good idea to find out what your lie should be and stick with it for awhile. i still lose the puck in my feet on occasion, too used to a sakic - but my shot and overall comfort has really gone up since i stuck with lower lie.

easton's lie are all off compared to what the others have used. compare an iggy to a recchi, the recchi is closer to a forsberg than to the iggy. ditto the coffey curve.

warrior.....i just have no idea.

But how do you know if you have a wrong lie? are there any things i can look for on the ice? I know im not a 6 because my thornton wore at the heel

[opus22 0]

The amount of rocker can effect how you perceive the lie of a blade.

The pattern DB on here will give you the most accurate descriptions of patterns you can find.

i was always a pattern freak, looking for the right toe shape...rocker...blah blah blah. i never found anything perfect. i alwasy had a feeling i was a lower lie guy. i stuck with the modo and then the heatley and i know now lie is pretty crucial. i get the feeling i could use any pattern if its the right lie. i always loved rocker cuz it made up for the lie being wrong. i could never have used a squarish toe like the heatley with the higher lies i used, now i think i could even use a lidstrom if it was a 4.5-5.

i think its a real good idea to find out what your lie should be and stick with it for awhile. i still lose the puck in my feet on occasion, too used to a sakic - but my shot and overall comfort has really gone up since i stuck with lower lie.

easton's lie are all off compared to what the others have used. compare an iggy to a recchi, the recchi is closer to a forsberg than to the iggy. ditto the coffey curve.

warrior.....i just have no idea.

But how do you know if you have a wrong lie? are there any things i can look for on the ice? I know im not a 6 because my thornton wore at the heel

im sure someone can point you towards the proper test around here. for me, it was just paying attention to when and how often my toe came off the ice/surface when playing. experimenting was pretty huge. i noticed that when i switched to the lower lie, then back to a 5.5, i was always on the heel trying to catch passes - and the reach just didnt feel right. i tried a test of just standing on my skates with my arms hanging down holding the stick out in front of me to see how much the toe raised. i dont think its an accurate test - that had me at like a 3.5. ive seen threads with people discussing various ways of testing. for me the clincher was my toe drag. i could never do it confidently with a square toe - till i had been using the modo for awhile, then the heatley came out. i realized it wasnt the toe being too boxy, it was the lie. now with the lower lie i get the benefit of a more square blades better shot without losing stick handling. try to experiment with blades that dont rocker very much, so you get a better idea of the lie. i thought 5.5 was fine because of the sakics rocker. when i switched to an iggy it wasnt so rockered and i had a hard time with the lie. it was a good pattern, but the lie got to me a bit.

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index...;hl=lie++proper

here is one thread i found about it - i dont know that it will help. ive seen threads where people got pretty specific on methods, but i didnt see any on my search.

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index...l=lie++detector

here's another

[TBLfan 25]

where's the tape wearing on your blade. On the heel? you need a lower lie. On the toe? You need a higher lie. In the middle? The lie is perfect.

Lie can be made up by stick length too.