Labeda hummer chasis

[MDE3 0]

Update on Hu'mer

My son now has a month on his HiHo / Hu'mer hybrid skate...nothing but good things to say. It took a bit of time to get used to them, but part of this was that he was required to use wheels that were too soft for the extra push generated by this new chassis due to a temporary sponsorship obligation.

Once he switched back to the harder and yet grippier wheels, no more problems.

No noticeable difference in manoueverability, more two step acceleration, faster top speed, better backwards and lateral acceleration..(really noticeable there) and maybe even more importantly, less energy used to maintain a higher average speed. No negatives. It did take a bit of time to adjust, but the different wheels confused that issue somewhat.

[Mike 0]

One thing that does come to mind, is that the Hummer Chassis, will not be very sellable in the general marketplace, as it will require that any skate boot used as a "conversion" be grooved out like the Tour Beemer, in order for the wheels to fit.

This means that only certain skates will have enough "meat" in the sole of the foot, to allow this modification....and who knows what that will do to the structural integrity of the boot itself.

hahahahahahaha.. Carve the skate up, lol.. ok.. with my new $400+ pair of skates that I don't even know will be useable after you cut holes in them.. sounds like a great plan.

Puff puff give...

[teamlabeda 1]

I have retro fitted Mission D1's and Nike Hi/Ho Silvers and both had enough "meat" in their soles to mount the Hummer. It is usually just two spots that gets dremeled in the sole for the frame to fit, the second wheel location and a little in the toe. As long as you are competent and careful the dremeling spots are just ovals not a long channel like the Tour boot. If you are worried about what the bottom of your boot looks like remember how much time you spend looking at it. The Humer frame is not for everybody. If you would prefer to be faster and grip better without sacrificing any maneuverability and have a step on your opponents the Humer is for you if you don't well.....................2nd place isn't bad!

[MDE3 0]

No argument on the performance here...my son definitely feels he has an advantage...versus multiple versions of the HiLO chassis' that he has used.

My experience doing the conversionswas is also based on keeping the HiHo boot indentical in shape to the way it was, so I took a lot more pains, and in doing so may have created a shape which required me to dremel deeper than if I had just attached the boot directly to the chassis "as is"...Others may not have the same problems....particularily in a new set of boots that have not already been broken in, and already taken a shape like my son's HiHo's had.

[Jim A 4]

there were a few well known players who had the Hum'er on skates other than Tour at the recent NARCh Finals

[Benchboy 0]

So whats wrong with the Tour boots to make people mount the chassis on competitors boots?

[Perry94 0]

hm...how much would this chassis be for aftermarket sales? Personally I don't really like the hi-lo wheel setup...my 80's wear out way before the 72's wear out.

[stevoc 0]

hm...how much would this chassis be for aftermarket sales? Personally I don't really like the hi-lo wheel setup...my 80's wear out way before the 72's wear out.

Funny, I am the exact opposite...I burn up the two front wheels first...usually.

[WackedWing 0]

After talking with MDE3 and the pains that he went through to put the Hu'mer chassis on Nike HiHo's, it seemed to me that the most cost effective and time sensitive strategy was to purchase a pair of Tours.

Because of chronically sprained and thus weakened ankles, I had doubts about whether I could use anything but the high-top '03 Nike Quests. Well, it appears that the BlueMax that I bought will do the job... Someone asked what was it with Tour boots that people would take the trouble (and if you're really thorough, it IS trouble) to mount the Hum'er. Well. here's my take:

- the '04 Tour series are traditional hockey boots. It seems that after unsuccessfully attempting to keep up with "soft, light, molded" materials that are currently in vogue, Tour went back and revived what worked for them in the past -- a comfortable, sturdy, and conservatively-designed boot. Never having had a Tour in the past, I have to say that the BlueMax exceeded my expectations (after thermofitting) for comfort, but my Nikes still feel better inside. Ankle support also was less in the BlueMax than the Quest, but adequate. The padding on the BlueMax, however, is noticeably thicker than the Quest. I have a suspicion that players who feel spoiled in the new boots would be hesitant to use a design that looks like somewhat of a throwback.

- The Hu'mer chassis took a little to get used to; I started blading on a straight 76, converted to HiLo, and lastly to Rocker. Going back to a straight-ish design with 80mm wheels was...um, interesting. It generated the initial feeling that you were about to fall backwards. However, that soon passed and the benefits of having larger wheels became apparent: most noticeably, the ability to demonstrate increased momentum without ongoing impulse. In other words, you kept rolling longer and faster with less effort, which was particularly perceptible when skating backwards. Grip was better even with 84a-hardness wheels (I was playing outside, so I switched out the stock wheels), and the ability to track was "like playing on rails" -- it has tremenodous linear stability. I felt that acceleration was equivalent to other designs in the end -- the easier ability of pushing off on the ball of your foot allows your feet to churn faster (advantage: HiLo and Rocker), but greater interim rolling efficiency and grip (advantage: Hu'mer) equalized things out. My manuveurability was affected, but not to the degree I expected; the greatest impairment was noticed when pivoting...but then again, my main comparison was the Rocker, which is all about pivoting.

Overall, I think the BlueMax is a step in the right direction for MOST players, but not for everyone -- if your game is built entirely on abrupt cuts, rapid charges, and sudden spins, the Hu'mer probably isn't for you.

[MDE3 0]

Actually if you learn to shift you weight forward towards the front wheel, pivoting becomes easier on all the non rockered chassis, but that weight shift is one of the techniques that makes converting to inline skating significantly different from ice skating.

Hum'er chassis..Suggested retail: $135.00 ..try your LHS if they are Labeda Wheel Dealers.

[jay 1]

I believe I saw them under the counter at hockeyoutlet.com but they aren't on the website. You might give them a call if your LHS can't help.

[Perry94 0]

pardon the question again, but do you think they'll fit on Mission R's? I know it's a cheap skate, and that mounting a chassis that costs more than the skate is, well, kind of a waste, but right now I'm killing all my 80's, while the 72's are all intact...I don't want to get a new set of wheels everytime I burn through the back.

[Benchboy 0]

Get some Rink Rat wheels. I still have my first set from April that get skated on for 5 games a week.

[Perry94 0]

will they hold up on rough surfaces? like blacktop material?

[kovalchuk71 212]

no they wouldnt....u just need harder wheels

[Perry94 0]

I'm using 82A's already...

[Mike 0]

So is advertising on this site ok?

[mojo122 535]

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[Inlinepro77 0]

I like how Justin left out the fact that Team USA won the World Championship on the Beamers... (Hummer Frame)

As well as CJ Yoder winning the pan-am games (played on a rink about half the size of regulation) on the Hummer, where it is critical to turn and accelerate fast due to the smaller rink size.

Apparantly Apollo Ono uses them as well as the best Roller players in the world

[HerobyDay 0]

I have skated on the Tour beamer skate quite a few times and while i did feel the extra speed, they also made me feel alittle unstable. I am currently mounting a hummer frame to a vapor xx boot as an experiment to see how that will work for me. Stay tuned.

[duckjob 1]

I have skated on the Tour beamer skate quite a few times and while i did feel the extra speed, they also made me feel alittle unstable. I am currently mounting a hummer frame to a vapor xx boot as an experiment to see how that will work for me. Stay tuned.

Did you have to dremel the bottom of the boot so the wheels wouldn't hit the outsole? I would really like to use the beemer, but the thought of dremeling my Vector Pro's does not appeal to me.

[MDE3 0]

I have skated on the Tour beamer skate quite a few times and while i did feel the extra speed, they also made me feel alittle unstable. I am currently mounting a hummer frame to a vapor xx boot as an experiment to see how that will work for me. Stay tuned.

What specifically made you feel "unstable"?.....Most of the larger skates will have a slightly longer wheelbase..which should enhance stability rather than reduce it..just curious. What were you using before?

[HerobyDay 0]

As of now my skates are not mounted they are sitting at hockeyoutlet. When they do get mounted the second wheel will be the only one that conflicts with the boot so it will have to be dremeled out. Currently i am skating on a vapor xx boot with red star alloy frame which i also had to dremel out some of the boot due to rubbing from the second to last wheel from a a shi*ty mounting job by hockeygiant. I don't think mounting the frame should be to much of a problem, the mounter at hockeyoutlet is very very good he was able to correct hockeygiants bad job and remount my skates in under 20 mins. To answer your question about feeling unstable from the beamer i think has to do more with the boot then the actual frame set up. My foot has never fit a tour boot very well but i did notice a pretty big increase in speed so it should be instesting to see how the hummer and vapor boot set up turn out.

[MDE3 0]

Thanks for the info....PS a little bird mentioned to me that the Blue Max is actually their best skate....

[Hiub 0]

How so? Isn't the Blue Max a lower end skate?