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the sportcheck adrenalines are labeled c12? or whatever on the shaft which was the code for the adrenaline shaft, but the blades are definately not the same. They have a carbon "look" paintjob and are almost certainly some sort of FRP. Real adrenalines are painted with a little oval section that shows the CF underneath, the sportcheck ones have this crappy CF sticker/paintjob there instead.

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FWIW, I got my hands on their true one-piece $60 price point stick.... It was blue and it was heavy, but it was a true one-piece stick at a price point not yet seen from other manufacturers.

I had a long talk with the rep. They still use xn10 in case anyone thinks otherwise, they just dropped the name.

I just got home and had an email from the rep waiting for me. It's not a true one piece but it is a $60 retail OPS. Then again, giant is already selling the R2 OPS at $60.

I stand corrected. I heard "true one piece stick" when he handed it to me. I guess his point of emphasis must have been the $60 price point, but the Synergy 200 is $67 at some places.

He pointed out to me that I was one of the 1st to see them, but why would that have been such a big deal if it is just a cheap, fused two-piece? :unsure:

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Well, I picked up three R6 shafts bout month, month and a half ago. 1st one I used snapped in half third or fourth ice time I used it. The second Ive used this past month or so, and Ive loved it. Great performing all around. Not as light as my RL XN10's but thats aright. I broke the blade on that one, and next game used the third, and snapped it in half on my first one timer. So I dunno if it was a bad batch or what, but when they are not breaking on me I llike em. We shall see how much longer the one I used for that month holds up.

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Well, I picked up three R6 shafts bout month, month and a half ago. 1st one I used snapped in half third or fourth ice time I used it. The second Ive used this past month or so, and Ive loved it. Great performing all around. Not as light as my RL XN10's but thats aright. I broke the blade on that one, and next game used the third, and snapped it in half on my first one timer. So I dunno if it was a bad batch or what, but when they are not breaking on me I llike em. We shall see how much longer the one I used for that month holds up.

You should've sent them back for warranty replacement.

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Well, I picked up three R6 shafts bout month, month and a half ago. 1st one I used snapped in half third or fourth ice time I used it. The second Ive used this past month or so, and Ive loved it. Great performing all around. Not as light as my RL XN10's but thats aright. I broke the blade on that one, and next game used the third, and snapped it in half on my first one timer. So I dunno if it was a bad batch or what, but when they are not breaking on me I like em. We shall see how much longer the one I used for that month holds up.

You should've sent them back for warranty replacement.

I did. Just waiting for them to show up.

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I know I'm joining this thread late, but my take on TPS sticks is that I don't know what the names mean in terms of levels.

I just got an Intrigue Control and I'm waiting for it to arrive. I'm hoping it's higher-end than a price point, but I have no idea how it lies in the lineup.

RBK has numbers telling you the levels, Easton only offers the SE and ST synergy (besides the numbered price points), Warrior has 5 sticks, and while I don't know the difference between Shogun and Royale, I know where the Dolo, Mac and Kronik sit. NBH has either roman numerals or One** telling you where it goes.

Response, Response Armor, Intrigue, Adrenaline, Response Xn10, Redlite, Response R*, Response Plus, Rubber, C*, I just don't know what any of that means.

From what I can tell control just means grip, armor might just be a special coating, not another completely different stick, and they have like 3 independent lines, Response R, Adrenaline, Response C, Xn10... and a whole lot more. Having all of these closeout prices just adds confusion, not really knowing what the hell is going on.

I'd rather just get an Easton where I know what I'm buying and where it falls in the grand scheme of things. I only got the TPS since it was $30, and even price points aren't that cheap. If it snaps, oh well, better than throwing cash on a $120 Synergy.

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I just got an Intrigue Control and I'm waiting for it to arrive. I'm hoping it's higher-end than a price point, but I have no idea how it lies in the lineup.

intrigue is low end, the control part is the textured grip.

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I just got an Intrigue Control and I'm waiting for it to arrive. I'm hoping it's higher-end than a price point, but I have no idea how it lies in the lineup.

intrigue is low end, the control part is the textured grip.

When the intrigue came out it was the cheapest stick they made.

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That being said, the Intrigue is definitely one of the more superior low end sticks out there. It has more carbon fiber content than fiberglass, atleast in comparison to other price point sticks. I actually have used it as a spare and it has nice consistant kick but is a bit heavier than other TPS twigs... certainly lighter than similar priced offerings from other brands though

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Sorry this is kind of off topic but does anyone know if the tps RP61 is the same as the retail Nash. I ask this since my retail nash has the "pro stock" thing on it and it says pro stock #61 is that number just for show or is it actually true.

TIA

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Sorry this is kind of off topic but does anyone know if the tps RP61 is the same as the retail Nash. I ask this since my retail nash has the "pro stock" thing on it and it says pro stock #61 is that number just for show or is it actually true.

TIA

That is TPS' way of simply confusing the consumer. They have been doing that on all of their newer sticks. They are listing the curve name with a "Pro Stock #" on there also.

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A question for JR or Chadd or anyone else in the know...

About the new line of sticks R2-R8:

The R4 (for example) is listed as 80% Carbon / 20% Glass. What does that mean, realistically, in terms of feel in relation to a stick that is 100% carbon?

The weight is obviously different, but I'm wondering what it means for feeling in shooting, passing, receiving passing, etc.?

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Glass is a lower performance composite. It won't be nearly as good for shooting, but it holds up well.

EDIT: Most price point sticks have fiberglass in them, reducing their performance. It's less expensive than carbon (duh), so that's what makes price point sticks perform worse than high end sticks (and cost less). Cheaper materials=reduced performance.

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Well, yeah, I get that concept. Cheaper materials, cheaper performance.

I was just curious what an 80/20 meant in 'real' terms.

I have some sample sticks that I got a while ago; two are 100% carbon, one is 80/20 carbon/glass. There isn't a huge difference in feel between the three, though there is a difference in weight and performance. Without some type of reinforcement, like an aramid, carbon can be less impact resistant than something like glass. Every material has strengths and weaknesses and building sticks is all about making compromises.

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Sorry this is kind of off topic but does anyone know if the tps RP61 is the same as the retail Nash. I ask this since my retail nash has the "pro stock" thing on it and it says pro stock #61 is that number just for show or is it actually true.

TIA

That is TPS' way of simply confusing the consumer. They have been doing that on all of their newer sticks. They are listing the curve name with a "Pro Stock #" on there also.

That doesn't answer my question... <_<

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Sorry this is kind of off topic but does anyone know if the tps RP61 is the same as the retail Nash. I ask this since my retail nash has the "pro stock" thing on it and it says pro stock #61 is that number just for show or is it actually true.

TIA

That is TPS' way of simply confusing the consumer. They have been doing that on all of their newer sticks. They are listing the curve name with a "Pro Stock #" on there also.

That doesn't answer my question... <_<

Yes it does, it's the retail curve.

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Sorry this is kind of off topic but does anyone know if the tps RP61 is the same as the retail Nash. I ask this since my retail nash has the "pro stock" thing on it and it says pro stock #61 is that number just for show or is it actually true.

TIA

That is TPS' way of simply confusing the consumer. They have been doing that on all of their newer sticks. They are listing the curve name with a "Pro Stock #" on there also.

That doesn't answer my question... <_<

Yes it does, it's the retail curve.

so the retail nash is the same as the pro stock p61?

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Sorry this is kind of off topic but does anyone know if the tps RP61 is the same as the retail Nash. I ask this since my retail nash has the "pro stock" thing on it and it says pro stock #61 is that number just for show or is it actually true.

TIA

That is TPS' way of simply confusing the consumer. They have been doing that on all of their newer sticks. They are listing the curve name with a "Pro Stock #" on there also.

That doesn't answer my question... <_<

Yes it does, it's the retail curve.

so the retail nash is the same as the pro stock p61?

Don't think of it as a "pro-stock"....it only says that on the shaft to confuse, or draw in more consumers. Simply think of it as the Nash retail curve. If you go to your LHS with a wide array of the new lineup of TPS sticks.....everyone of them will say "pro-stock" and then a # on there. Simply ignore the fact that it says pro stock on there at all.

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Sorry this is kind of off topic but does anyone know if the tps RP61 is the same as the retail Nash. I ask this since my retail nash has the "pro stock" thing on it and it says pro stock #61 is that number just for show or is it actually true.

TIA

That is TPS' way of simply confusing the consumer. They have been doing that on all of their newer sticks. They are listing the curve name with a "Pro Stock #" on there also.

That doesn't answer my question... <_<

Yes it does, it's the retail curve.

so the retail nash is the same as the pro stock p61?

Don't think of it as a "pro-stock"....it only says that on the shaft to confuse, or draw in more consumers. Simply think of it as the Nash retail curve. If you go to your LHS with a wide array of the new lineup of TPS sticks.....everyone of them will say "pro-stock" and then a # on there. Simply ignore the fact that it says pro stock on there at all.

Ya my response lite that I bought at my LHS is a retail Nash. I'm thinking of buying a real pro stock tps stick off the internet that is a p61 and I was wondering if that would be the same as my other response lite.

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I have some sample sticks that I got a while ago; two are 100% carbon, one is 80/20 carbon/glass. There isn't a huge difference in feel between the three, though there is a difference in weight and performance. Without some type of reinforcement, like an aramid, carbon can be less impact resistant than something like glass. Every material has strengths and weaknesses and building sticks is all about making compromises.

Chadd, thank you for your reply.

I guess where I am going with that is, is the TPS R4 a value at $90? Compared to an SL at $110, I'm just trying to figure out would be the better buy.

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I have some sample sticks that I got a while ago; two are 100% carbon, one is 80/20 carbon/glass. There isn't a huge difference in feel between the three, though there is a difference in weight and performance. Without some type of reinforcement, like an aramid, carbon can be less impact resistant than something like glass. Every material has strengths and weaknesses and building sticks is all about making compromises.

Chadd, thank you for your reply.

I guess where I am going with that is, is the TPS R4 a value at $90? Compared to an SL at $110, I'm just trying to figure out would be the better buy.

Just my opinion:

From a performance standpoint, the SL

From a value standpoint, the SL

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Just my opinion:

From a performance standpoint, the SL

From a value standpoint, the SL

The SL, definitely.

*Damn you chadd!!!*

Yeah, that's kind of the way I was leaning.

Thanks guys for both of your input. I appreciate it.

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