So... about those Graf 707s...

[LoXish 0]

I feel like I got a pretty good deal. This will be my first pair of Grafs and I really enjoyed the two piece upper in the time I spent trying them on... but here's the kicker... they were 79.99 and I had like 43$ credit from selling some old skates to PIA before so I got them for like 40$... anyway, the steel seems okay and overall, besides cosmetic, the boot is in great structural condition... or atleast, it seems...

Here are some pictures:

Heel:

Insole Both:

Insole left:

Insole right:

outsole both:

Outsole left:

Outsole right:

Toe both:

Anyway, just kind of excited, thought I'd share the good deal. I play more roller than ice and honestly was in the market for new inlines before ice skates but I couldn't pass this up... who knows, maybe I'll snag a pair of sprungs and convert these... we'll see.

[mack 44]

Enjoy the Pumas

[LoXish 0]

Enjoy the Pumas

You lost me.

[mack 44]

It happens.

[LoXish 0]

It happens.

Touche'

[shifter 0]

besides the fight.. you converting them?? those skates are only for elite skaters just a heads up =)

[LkptTiger 1]

Enjoy the Pumas

You lost me.

They're ridiculously soft skates.

[whbd18 0]

I can attest to them being extremely soft. They feel fine while wearing them, but on the ice its totally different. Luckily, I have pretty strong ankles so mine dont bother me that much.

[LoXish 0]

I guess I'll give them a shot and see how I fair... there's a chance they will be too soft on the upper end... we'll see.

I may convert them, I don't know, I'm gonna skate on them a few times first.

[ramensandwich 1]

nice circas, i have a pair of those too.

[Luckystrike 0]

are the 707's that much softer than the 709's? I have the 709's and they feel plenty stiff to me. Maybe I have strong ankles, I don't know....

[DamnLocust 0]

yes.

the upper portion of the 707s (top 3 eyelets) is actually detached from the rest of the boot, except in the back.

[Steve123 0]

If your ankles weren't strong enough couldn't you just wrap the lace around the boot for more support? That's what I did with my 705's because they would keep getting loose at the top and kind of flimsy around the ankle. Not the same skate at all, but still.

[LoXish 0]

I've got a busy work schedule this week but i'm gonna drop them off to get sharpened and then try and skate at drop in with them by the end of the week...

I'll report back.

[Keith 0]

709 is the stiffest boot graf makes and 707 is the softest top end boot one can but so the diff is huge.

[stickglovesshirt 0]

i know a guy who busted up his knee pretty bad so someone told him to get the 707s. he said it took awhile to get use too. lots of flex in that boot. especially over time

[pantherfan 0]

How would it help his situation 707's were all about the ankle and to a certain extent foot injurys wernt they?

[Keith 0]

Well, it would take more torque stress off the knee joint imo.

[chilaxin12 2]

Just out of curiosity, what size are the holders?

[aarondevera 0]

good lord, i think i owned that very same pair at some point....

sorry if they reek.

... they wouldn't happen to be a ballpark size 8, would they?

[LkptTiger 1]

Believe it or not, Graf made more than one pair.

They're 9.5s. Check the Sell forum.

*edit* - oh, you can't check the Sell forum. Nevermind.

[LoXish 0]

Lol, thanks Lkpt.

I bought these in St. Louis, MO... but who knows?