booyaagrandma 4 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 check this one too That was excellent too,great skater.Lets see some more lads.On a complete side note ,the music on that clip was pretty sad though :P .Sounded like some 80's techno crap,not very ' hockey appropriate ' music me thinks ? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMcDonald19 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 not skating but by god, i think downie was the director of this onehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COtxMHNon9o...ted&search=and a sick off ice movie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#96 0 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Ok, so Stamm, Glantz etc. always preach complete recovery after each stride - almost clicking heals together. They would say that this guy is 'tracking wide' (i think that is the term). So who is right? Sure can't call this guy a bad skater.He doesn't skate pretty, he skates very choppy but it is effective. The basics are the same, what works for some doesn't work for others.The Russian skates choppy or Glantz does? The Russian is a superb skater, look how effortless he is while producing power, balance, and speed. I don't see anything wrong with the technique.There are very few truly "Smooth" skaters IMHO. Coffey obviously comes to mind. Brett Hedican. Orr, from what I hear because I never really got to see him. Those guys looked like they were floating. Talk about effortless.Does make you wonder how come a guy like him didn't play in the NHL. I knew a guy that coached my little brother who was a fantastic skater. He tried out for the Rangers based on his skating. Didn't make the team though. Obviously more to the game than just skating alone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
booyaagrandma 4 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 How many times have you heard what a horrible skater luc robitaille was and he did'nt have such a bad career now did he :) .I definitely agree there's a whole lot more to 'making it ' than just skating or even fancy moves.Vision ,heart,effort and teamwork make up a huge part I'd imagine.Certain skills can be learned but desire and drive have to be there.( listen to me get all philosophical ,almost sounds like I know what I'm talking about :P ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBLfan 25 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Ok, so Stamm, Glantz etc. always preach complete recovery after each stride - almost clicking heals together. They would say that this guy is 'tracking wide' (i think that is the term). So who is right? Sure can't call this guy a bad skater.He doesn't skate pretty, he skates very choppy but it is effective. The basics are the same, what works for some doesn't work for others.The Russian skates choppy or Glantz does? The Russian is a superb skater, look how effortless he is while producing power, balance, and speed. I don't see anything wrong with the technique.There are very few truly "Smooth" skaters IMHO. Coffey obviously comes to mind. Brett Hedican. Orr, from what I hear because I never really got to see him. Those guys looked like they were floating. Talk about effortless.Does make you wonder how come a guy like him didn't play in the NHL. I knew a guy that coached my little brother who was a fantastic skater. He tried out for the Rangers based on his skating. Didn't make the team though. Obviously more to the game than just skating alone...There is definitely not something wrong with his skating, his style isn't pretty but it is damn effective. He's got very good acceleration and nothing needs to be said about his balance. Look at Ovechkin, he skates very choppy when he's trying to break away. Not everyone skates like Modano(first name to come to mind). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ktang 34 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 Ok, so Stamm, Glantz etc. always preach complete recovery after each stride - almost clicking heals together. They would say that this guy is 'tracking wide' (i think that is the term). So who is right? Sure can't call this guy a bad skater.I think the complete recovery is good for efficiency, but not for acceleration and power. I think it is more important to have full extension, like in the clip, because you have the strongest push when the legs are almost straight. You get very little push at the beginning of the stride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chk hrd 164 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I think it is more where your style comes from. It seems that a lot of Russian and Eastern European players skate with a more choppy style. I don't think there is a right or wrong way, it is what suites you better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
booyaagrandma 4 Report post Posted October 3, 2007 I think it is more where your style comes from. It seems that a lot of Russian and Eastern European players skate with a more choppy style. I don't think there is a right or wrong way, it is what suites you better.Well said :) .Check out some Bure or Fedorov clips for the classic Russian skating style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petey21 1 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 The fast skating guy has a website too if anyone wants to find out more.http://www.victoryonice.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monty22 833 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 Sweet mullet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Star 0 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 I know he is one sick skater but how sharp do you think his skates are to do some of the stuff he does. When I try to do some of those sweet moves my skates seems to just slide out from under me. Is his hollow something crazy like <1/4? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camhockey16 5 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 just as a fyi - the penguins skating coach that you guys mentioned is named Besa Tsintsadze - here is one of his videos http://www.besahockey.com/on_ice_video.htmarticle about him:http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburgh...y/s_469869.htmlhis website:http://www.besahockey.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sven 1 Report post Posted October 8, 2007 We (actually I, but this sounds more demanding) need more neat skating videos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gongshow11 1 Report post Posted October 9, 2007 heres the guy i was talking about earlier, best skater ive ever seen, besides matthew lombardi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camhockey16 5 Report post Posted October 9, 2007 not to rain on your parade but that's what i posted two posts up - ive seen besa in person as well and he is ridiculous - maybe someday ill be able to skate like that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LkptTiger 1 Report post Posted October 9, 2007 Terrific skater. Can he play the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gongshow11 1 Report post Posted October 9, 2007 ya he can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutella 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2007 A YouTube comment:"He rips up the ice with his dirty russian sharp turns. " :lol: This guy is good.I need to learn how to skate like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camhockey16 5 Report post Posted October 10, 2007 its just one of those things where you just have to see them in person once and go "holy crap"i always wondered what would happen if they snuck one of these guys into a nhl game - it would be pretty entertaining to watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
big ben 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2007 I need to do some of those, they seem really useful. Anyone have any more tips? Still getting over the fear factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jat 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 When you skate, are you supposed to push off with the heels of your skate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jat 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 OH. lol. I'll try that next time. so I want to be on my heels when i make turns, especially quick turns? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBLfan 25 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 use your heels to turn, use your toes to stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gongshow11 1 Report post Posted October 11, 2007 toes to start you mean? you use whole blade to stop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
