Vermette using a different size runner?

[repus 0]

On the topic of Thermablades, XM had Vermette on the power play talking about his skating. He made mention that he uses runners that are slightly wider than a normal blade.

Does anyone know what this is?

-dave

[BIG 0]

http://www.mediamatinquebec.com/?Section=C...ie=SportsHockey look at this article the blade is wider like a cone

[raygunpk 0]

Is that in french to anybody else?

[providencebadboy21 0]

I'm actually kinda interested to read that, except I don't speak Paris talk.

[Chadd 916]

Sounds like the thing Graf was working on a couple years ago. It was the next big thing to revolutionize skating before LS power and, I think, slightly after t'blades. I know we had some at least one pretty extensive discussion about it.

[LkptTiger 1]

"The blade of X-Blades shoe, patented the year passed through the specialists in the company Aiguiso-Pro, in Quebec, gives currently proud pace in hockeyeurs of the hardening of Antoine Vermette and Michel Picard.

According to Antoine and Marcel Lambert, owners of the company, these thicker and rigid blades would increase by 25% to 30% speed in the turns, in addition to ensuring one slips higher, bringing an increased stability and thus, a reduction in the falls.

One drew it in October 2001 and it has been on ice for four years. The first, I very conceived it with the hand. That asked for to us years of research and improvement. After five generations of tests, we are where one is. We obtained our Canadian patent in May and our American patent in September, last year”, explains Antoine Lambert.

Lately patented, the X-Blades blade is still not very widespread on the market. At present, the most known hockeyeurs to swear by this one are Antoine Vermette, of the Senators d' Ottawa, and Michel Picard, of Isothermic de Thetford Mines (LNAH). Others adapt it also little by little in New Brunswick and in Alberta, just as on the European continent.

One possibly aims at making an opening on a North-American scale. At present, one nevertheless sells of them 150 per year without least publicity”, are pleased the owners with Aiguiso-Pro.

Vermette and Picard, charmed

Even if it is the single specimen in the national League to thread X-Blades under its shoes and that it makes work its employee with the equipment in double considering the difference in the machinery, Antoine Vermette would not move back any more. It will start soon its third season while being fitted kind.

I tested this summer, just to see, to return to my old traditional blades and it was very odd. For my part, which I notice more, it is at which point I am more stable in my turns”, claims the player of Saint-Agapit.

Of course, its blades bring a batch of comments in the large circuit. “The guy speak to me about it, they ask me questions. Some would like to test, others less. It would be well in any case to see of the guy on our premises to bore with that”, says it.

Michel Picard, on his side, was among the first to make confidence in X-Blades, four years ago. By courtesy at the beginning, and obligation today.

I tested by respect for people who showed me that. Once I put these blades, I never removed them. On an abrupt turn against a defender, I lose it! That transfers all alone and I am in confidence. Then, I do not return from there like I tire myself less quickly”, praise productive the 37 year old veteran.

Only one difficulty: if all this project is well packing, it cannot achieve the unanimity, at least for the moment.

“I speak about it with other players, but it is difficult to change their practices. That poses also a problem for grinding, because the employees must modify their equipment”, estimates Picard.

No matter what it occurs, Antoine and Marcel Lambert do not démordent any. X-Blades with 150 $ the pair gain with being known.

"One prepares an Internet site with animation to show the difference with a traditional blade. In this moment, one has just stops it with ear. It is sure that it is our baby, but it has its place in the market.""

Translation as-per worldlingo.com. Obviously, probably not 100% accurate, but you get the idea.

[Chadd 916]

Only a year and a half ago, not as long as I thought.

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index...c=19115&hl=

[jimmy 194]

That blade sounds similar to the CT blade. A 4.0mm wide blade milled down to fit in conventional holder with varying flared angles, 4 degrees, 8 degrees, etc. The concept makes a lot of sense, especially the bite angle. It really makes it hard to "lose an edge" in a tight turn. It definately has a place in the market. Not marketing hype like some blades, but some physics behind it.

[Law Goalie 147]

So this is basically the opposite of the old Koho (Prebok) Thrust Blades?

[lb33knight 0]

That blade sounds similar to the CT blade. A 4.0mm wide blade milled down to fit in conventional holder with varying flared angles, 4 degrees, 8 degrees, etc. The concept makes a lot of sense, especially the bite angle. It really makes it hard to "lose an edge" in a tight turn. It definately has a place in the market. Not marketing hype like some blades, but some physics behind it.

A blade shaped like that is going to make it tough to stone though.

[djinferno 2]

i like the sound of this....

[LkptTiger 1]

It's definitely an interesting concept - one that, unlike a lot of other "innovations," really seems to have some substance to it. If they make them available for Pitch holders, I think I'd definitely have to give them a whirl. Of course, this is assuming that they're ever made available...at all.

What would something like this do to glide, though? More surface area = more resistance, no?

[Reaper 0]

What would something like this do to glide, though? More surface area = more resistance, no?

No, not on ice. More surface area = lower psi on the blade. Your glide would be increased.

[tomh7 2]

What would something like this do to glide, though? More surface area = more resistance, no?

No, not on ice. More surface area = lower psi on the blade. Your glide would be increased.

Actually, more surface area = lower psi = less water between blade and ice = less lubrication = more friction = less glide.

[mills 0]

How often would these have to be replaced? I.E. how long does the taper last?

[TBLfan 25]

To be honest I skimmed over this thread but we're just talking about a thicker blade correct? Odd goalies are going to thinner blades(RBK) and player skates might be leaning towards wider blades. *scratches head*

[Law Goalie 147]

Yeah, it's funny how things are heading in opposite directions that way. Goalie skates are getting thinner and being sharpened on deeper and deeper hollows (I know a guy who's on 1/16th - he doesn't shuffle, he hops!), while players are being coaxed in the opposite direction.

[TBLfan 25]

Yeah, it's funny how things are heading in opposite directions that way. Goalie skates are getting thinner and being sharpened on deeper and deeper hollows (I know a guy who's on 1/16th - he doesn't shuffle, he hops!), while players are being coaxed in the opposite direction.

hahahaha

It is pretty weird. Hmmm someone want to profile my old goalie skates to a 9' radius? I'll use them next pickup as a forward! hahaha :P

[mills 0]

Our goalie sharpens his skates once for the lifetime of his skates. I suited up in his gear and had to switch. I have no idea how he manages it.

[DamnLocust 0]

the width of the blade has no affect on the feel of the blade's radius- it affects the feel of the hollow. a wider blade makes the hollow seem deeper, whereas a narrower blade makes the hollow feel shallower.

TBL, the blade actually flares out so that the angle that the edge grabs the ice is changed. (see pics on the site linked in a previous post)

Seems that it would be very easy to damage your edges with these.

[TBLfan 25]

Standard sharpening for a figure skate is 3/4" I believe.

Keep in mind that standard on a goalie skate is 1" and it is roughly as sharp as a 3/4" players skate hollow. I would say that there's about a 50% thicker blade on a goalie skate and the stock radius is like 15' or something like that. Of course those are estimates off the top of my head.

[lb33knight 0]

Standard sharpening for a figure skate is 3/4" I believe.

Keep in mind that standard on a goalie skate is 1" and it is roughly as sharp as a 3/4" players skate hollow. I would say that there's about a 50% thicker blade on a goalie skate and the stock radius is like 15' or something like that. Of course those are estimates off the top of my head.

In 9 years of sharpening figure skates I have never done a 3/4". 90% of my girls are using a 1/2" and the rest are 7/16-3/8".

[TBLfan 25]

I'm not shocked that I was wrong there, the girl that told me can barely count let alone do fractions. Oddly enough she is a redhead, not a blonde! :o

[lb33knight 0]

I'm not shocked that I was wrong there, the girl that told me can barely count let alone do fractions. Oddly enough she is a redhead, not a blonde! :o

Maybe she was just the weird one in the bunch that gets her's done that way. You know those red heads, :P

[TBLfan 25]

Touche. ;)

hahaha