Chelios: "There are no Drugs in Hockey"

[Jason Harris 31]

The Clear and HGH are 2 different things. The Clear is TGH.

When they interviewed the designer on Costas Now, they referred to the Clear as a synthetic human growth hormone.

[thejackal 46]

as far as im concerned id rather know who's not on something. what chelios said made me wince

as far as im concerned id rather know who's not on something. what chelios said made me wince

[Fletch 219]

See Kordic, John.

"It became commonplace for the tough guy to be seen in his dressing room stall crying after having spoken to his father about his game. While he coped with bigger fighters with the now regular injections of steroids, he found the lavish lifestyle, the Crescent street strip-joints, and the heaps of cocaine muted the resonating disapproval of his father. When he started to miss practices and experiencing severe drug-induced paranoia, the Canadians deemed Kordic's increasing unreliability detrimental to the team and, despite his popularity, in 1988 traded him to the Maple Leafs in exchange for Russ Courtnall."

Strangely enough, all of this (allegedly) happened while Kordic was a teammate of Chelios' in Montreal.

[Gwyren 0]

I believe it is naive to believe that PEDs are not in the NHL. As prevailant as they have been in baseball or track and field or cycling? Unknown. But ANYWHERE there is that much money to be made some people will do what they can to attempt to earn more of it.

[Trooper 8]

There is no reason to think there aren't PEDs in hockey. They guys play a schedule that allows for little recovery, they don't get a lot of rest on the road, and strength translates into speed and power. Pretty much a perfect recipe for PEDs.

[Penguinsfanatic 0]

most of the guys in the report were pitchers who were using hgh because it helps recovery time with your injury.....think about how much more of a beating their arms take compared to anyone else, and if you get hurt or have a minor injury, there is no better way to heal faster or better than taking hgh.....im not condoning it im just stating thats why they take steroids and hgh, unlike bonds, jose canseco, who used steriods for sheer power to blast homer runs

[Thockey17 1]

is coke a bigger problem in the nhl than steroids?

Easily.

You'd be very surprised.

[KingPest19 0]

The Clear and HGH are 2 different things. The Clear is TGH.

When they interviewed the designer on Costas Now, they referred to the Clear as a synthetic human growth hormone.

From my understanding they are 2 different compounds. I could be wrong though. The clear is an anabolic where as HGH isnt.

[Kevin 5]

The Clear is Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrogestrinone

[camhockey16 5]

The Clear is Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrogestrinone

not that you aren't right - but wikipedia isn't exactly infallible - no offense :P

[Jason Harris 31]

The Clear is Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG).

I understand the Clear is Tetrahydrogestrinone, but my memory is they referred to it as a synthetic human growth hormone in the interview with the designer.

[#96 0]

Of course there's a problem with Roids in hockey, it just hasn't been investigated. I'm not saying they all do it, but I would bet at least 1/4 do, just like in baseball. You don't necessarily have to get huge from being on steroids. As somone in this thread incorrectly pointed out, steroids, or certain types, do indeed increase muscle regeneration time. Look at pitchers in baseball. You wouldn't say most of them are "ripped dudes", but a lot of them are on the juice to help recuperate after throwing days. You don't think a hockey player would be looking for a similar "edge" 40 or 50 games into a season when it's only January and he's gotta go to April and hopefully long after? You're naive if you think not.

It's a business. It's an edge to stay in the game and sometimes get ahead. If you needed a little something extra, you'd do the same. Look at the millions of people around the world that ingest some form of caffeine during the workday just to keep going. Long term of effects of caffeine are hyptertension, heart disease, stenosis, and plenty other things. But people keep drinking coffee.

I honestly don't blame these guys for doing it. As far as Moose and Duguay and their purported problems...damn I'd love to hit the slopes with those guys.

[Oberon 0]

Maybe Chris Simon will blame his Ruutu stomp on 'roid rage.

[frankie56 0]

#96, I agree with your point, but coffee is probably a bad example. It's been studied for years and has not been linked to anything.

The tough question is where to draw the line.

[hunterphfr 12]

#96, I agree with your point, but coffee is probably a bad example. It's been studied for years and has not been linked to anything.

The tough question is where to draw the line.

What's Paul got to do with all this, I've never heard his name mentioned in any type of scandal. Although he was an Oiler, and those guys' are cheatin' bastards.

[supa 3]

#96, I agree with your point, but coffee is probably a bad example. It's been studied for years and has not been linked to anything.

The tough question is where to draw the line.

What's Paul got to do with all this, I've never heard his name mentioned in any type of scandal. Although he was an Oiler, and those guys' are cheatin' bastards.

Im pretty sure he was refering to the drink :D

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

#96, I agree with your point, but coffee is probably a bad example. It's been studied for years and has not been linked to anything.

The tough question is where to draw the line.

What's Paul got to do with all this, I've never heard his name mentioned in any type of scandal. Although he was an Oiler, and those guys' are cheatin' bastards.

Im pretty sure he was refering to the drink :D

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic :D

[supa 3]

#96, I agree with your point, but coffee is probably a bad example. It's been studied for years and has not been linked to anything.

The tough question is where to draw the line.

What's Paul got to do with all this, I've never heard his name mentioned in any type of scandal. Although he was an Oiler, and those guys' are cheatin' bastards.

Im pretty sure he was refering to the drink :D

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic :D

I'm pretty sure you are mocking me :D

but

I'm pretty sure you are right.. reading comprehension ftw

[Jordan 13]

There is almost a zero probability that there is no problem in the NHL. There are problems with steroids in the minors, in college, even in high school for pete's sake.

Add to that there are significant paychecks that thousands are competing for and an extremely weak testing program and you have an almost certain receipe for performance enhancing drugs...by the way this is a league where the players used to pop Sudafed like Smarties before every game. Further, I have personally known several former players who have shrunk considerably (and quickly) once their playing days were over.

[#96 0]

A kid I went to HS with went up to Boston and played college hockey with Tom Poti. Said there was no way he wasn't on roids. He was huge. I guess they were the one thing he wasn't allergic to...

[thejackal 46]

A kid I went to HS with went up to Boston and played college hockey with Tom Poti. Said there was no way he wasn't on roids. He was huge. I guess they were the one thing he wasn't allergic to...

whatever he was on, it didnt help with his purse-swinging habit

[DarkStar50 679]

There might not be any drugs in the Yeshiva floor hockey league in NYC but there are definitely drugs in pro hockey. How can Chelios be fairly smart and awfully stupid at the same time?

[Kevin 5]

6'3" 210 is not "huge." I saw him play in college--he was not bigger. Mike Grier was "huge" for a college player, but I think he has lost weight since his BU days.

http://capitals.nhl.com/team/app?page=Play...age&tab=prf

A kid I went to HS with went up to Boston and played college hockey with Tom Poti. Said there was no way he wasn't on roids. He was huge. I guess they were the one thing he wasn't allergic to...