Khabibulin smacks Shannon after SO goal

[Fletch 219]

I wonder if the NHL will someday put a stop to the spinorama in the shootout because of stuff like this. Or at least disallow the goal if the player makes contact with the Goaltender.

[djinferno 2]

deservingly so, that should not count...

I was of the same opinion about Bouchards goal last year...

[gxc999 7]

I think Khabi is looking at a fine or possible suspension for that. Feel free to disagree with me if you like, a shove is one thing but a shot to the back of the head, which could end a career, is too far.

[D-MaN88 0]

I love the homer announcers, "He wasn't going to get that one anyway so don't give me that one." Who the hell cares, he still interfered with the chance of Khabby making a save. The goal shouldn't count based on the contact with Khabby and not allowing him to get a chance at it, I don't care if he wouldn't have made the save or not, you still can't just block the goalie out.

I personally don't think he will get any suspension or fine for it. I don't know if they still somewhat enforce it, which doesn't look like it, but I think the rule the puck has to keep advancing in a forward motion should be kept in play. Fitting how both times both players who tried the same move both fell into Khabby to block him out from having a chance. BS goal and call.

[PWBIII 0]

I can see why Knabibulin is pissed, but he needs to control his emotions on that one. I don't like that goal at all either way.

[raygunpk 0]

What's wrong with the goal? It's a skilled move.

[mickz 107]

What's wrong with the goal? It's a skilled move.

One could argue Ryan Shannon stopped advancing the puck towards the net while he was beginning the spin move. The NHL Rule Book states the play shall be complete once the puck stops advancing towards the net.

There's also another argument that Shannon interfered with Khabibulin which prevented him from making the save.

IMO there's a fair argument with Shannon stopping the puck from advancing. However, I don't believe the contact made between Shannon and Khabibulin was the deciding factor in the goal being scored.

[Fletch 219]

deservingly so, that should not count...

I was of the same opinion about Bouchards goal last year...

Me too. BTW, I emailed ya.

What's wrong with the goal? It's a skilled move.

While it is a "skilled" move, it kinda gives the player a bigger advantage than the goaltender. Not every Goaltender is going to be a quick/lucky as Turco was last season and stop that. Also, it's potentially dangerous because the player can lose an edge and go crashing into the goaltender.

Not to mention the fact that like the Mike Legg/Crosby type of goal, goaltenders view stuff like that as a slap in the face.

I think the equivalent of that move for a goaltender would be coming out and sliding at the player while he was coming in for the shot (think of this, but in a shootout situation). I'm not a goaltender, but I can see them thinking it was fair, if a move like the spinorama continues to be allowed.

[dix0r 0]

What's wrong with the goal? It's a skilled move.

One could argue Ryan Shannon stopped advancing the puck towards the net while he was beginning the spin move. The NHL Rule Book states the play shall be complete once the puck stops advancing towards the net.

it's hard to tell from that youtube link as you can't watch it in slow motion, but it looks pretty clearly to me like the puck continues in forward motion the entire time. shannon pretty much starts the move parallel to the goal line, so the next time he touches the puck, it's going toward the net, and then he knocks it in whilst sliding.

also, i have no idea whether or not this is accurate - but i'd imagine that the intent of that rule is more to prevent against wrap arounds, shots after a goalie poke checks, shooters stopping and waiting for the goalie to show net, etc. sometimes the puck may travel backword while stickhandling - but it continues forward motion in general. same thing here, IMO...

[Fletch 219]

Khabibulin's and Savard's reaction via TSN -

"But Khabibulin still felt the goal should have been disallowed and didn't apologize for hitting Shannon in the back.

"Show me one goaltender that is going to be happy if he stays in the blue and somebody bumps him," said Khabibulin. "I don't care if it's a penalty shot or whatever. He's going to get in the blue, then I felt that I had to do something."

Savard said he's worried that Shannon's marker will set a precedent for illegal goals.

"To me that's interference," said Savard. "The goalie shouldn't be able to get bumped. I mean what's the difference if the guy goes right at the goalie and runs him right out? I think that's something the league should look at and try to fix that. They need to fix it.

"It's a tough call, I understand that. But we've got to figure this out. Because what you're going to see is a forward's going to go 100 miles an hour into the goalie, and that's not acceptable."

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=229397&hubname=nhl

[mrusse01 0]

Khabibulin should be suspended, that's bush league to blocker a guy in the back of the head after a shootout.

[SR27 0]

IDK what what kind of circus this is supposed to be but that kind of move is not allowed in any shootout other than the NHL´s. The reaction was unnescessary but that kind of moves are dangerous to a goalie.

[Trudy14 0]

Shannon does that move all the time in shootouts. He did it back in the AHL and continued on doing it in the NHL. Marty Turco stoned him cold on it when Shannon played for the Duck's - -

Khabibulin was probably pissed because that's the

someone has scored on him via that spin-o-rama move and also because his team is close to the bottom of the standings in the west. He should have held back though, terrible sportsmanship. I'm still not a big fan of the move.

[Patrick67 1]

Lol shannons reaction after he got smacked is an instant classic.

But IMO the goal should have been disallowed, it's goalie interference...

[TBLfan 25]

It should be disallowed, it's goalie interference.

[Gummer12 134]

it looked to me that khabby made contact with the puck during the poke check, and therefore stopping forward progress and technically made the save and the play should be dead right there. If he Didn't touch it, then the goal should count.. but it looked like he did to me.

[Bravada 442 0]

I also don't think it should be allowed. There is a pretty big difference between how close he was on the Turco shot and on the Khabibulin shot. Shannon was no where near the blue on the Turco shot.

As far as the puck stopping, constant motion like they have there I don't think is going to be called. It's going to have to be something blatantly obvious like coming to a complete stop or something similar.

[jbyun04 7]

they got rid of the rule where you have to keep the puck moving

the players got an email saying that as long as you're in full control of the puck it counts.

[QandA 0]

they got rid of the rule where you have to keep the puck moving

the players got an email saying that as long as you're in full control of the puck it counts.

In Shannon's interview he said that the memo said the puck has to be going forward at all times...not having control. It's a no goal because the rules state you have to be going forward at all times. Were taught at referee clinics to dissallow this. I'm sure someones going to bring up the point, "well stickhanding involves moving the puck backwards," use common sense.

[LoXish 0]

deservingly so, that should not count...

I was of the same opinion about Bouchards goal last year...

I'm 100% with you there, I was appalled at that goal last year and all the bonerage that resulted.

[Rustpot 1]

Shannon does that move all the time in shootouts. He did it back in the AHL and continued on doing it in the NHL. Marty Turco stoned him cold on it when Shannon played for the Duck's - -

The difference is that Turco had a chance to reach across with the paddle, Khabby was pushed and Shannon just had to push the puck into the open net.

If Khabibulin had slid out and Shannon was in the same spot as he was in the move against Turco this wouldn't be an issue.

[ean 0]

I think I would have done the same...this shootout shit is ridiculous and then to top that you've got guys doing shit like that...

[gxc999 7]

I agree with Ean, I think the shootout is a gimmick to begin with. Hockey games should have wins, losses and ties, just as our hockey forefathers intended.

However, if we are going to keep shootouts, I think we should allow spin-o-ramas etc etc, since the point of the shootout is to "get more new fans into the game", this idea would only continue this trend. If we're going to sell out, let's sell all the way out.

[stock07 1]

Khabibulin should be suspended, that's bush league to blocker a guy in the back of the head after a shootout.

Bush league is having no shot and doing a spin-an-pray...Khabibulin should have let it go, but he knew the 90% worthless NHL would count it....

[jbyun04 7]

they got rid of the rule where you have to keep the puck moving

the players got an email saying that as long as you're in full control of the puck it counts.

In Shannon's interview he said that the memo said the puck has to be going forward at all times...not having control. It's a no goal because the rules state you have to be going forward at all times. Were taught at referee clinics to dissallow this. I'm sure someones going to bring up the point, "well stickhanding involves moving the puck backwards," use common sense.

haha whoops i thought he said what i thought he said

must've been hearing things, my bad