3rd jerseys are back

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

I'm still waiting on proof that HFD owns it.

[juiced 0]

B)

I've always loved those jerseys, I have the socks to match...

i would love a pair of socks to match those. i also wouldn't mind having the jersey to match the socks. wicked looking jersey IMO

[BigDipper 0]

Actually from my understanding is that Hartford doesn't own the name, but the state does. Actually the Connecticut Development Authority. It was an agreement when Karmanos took the team and left that he would sign over trademarks to the CDA in exchange for him not paying back the state a hefty loan he took out. Apparantly in the late 90's when Karmanos changed the name of the Detroit Jr. Red Wings junior club to the Detroit Whalers (now Plymouth) the CDA filed an infringement lawsuit, but quickly dropped it. Although I tried, honestly not too hard, I can't dig up any info as to why the hell the CDA will not market the name, logo, etc.

[ADAbsolutNDN 0]

I came across this potential 3rd jersey for the sens...I'd buy this in a heartbeat if it actually comes out.

[Monty22 832]

Actually from my understanding is that Hartford doesn't own the name, but the state does. Actually the Connecticut Development Authority. It was an agreement when Karmanos took the team and left that he would sign over trademarks to the CDA in exchange for him not paying back the state a hefty loan he took out. Apparantly in the late 90's when Karmanos changed the name of the Detroit Jr. Red Wings junior club to the Detroit Whalers (now Plymouth) the CDA filed an infringement lawsuit, but quickly dropped it. Although I tried, honestly not too hard, I can't dig up any info as to why the hell the CDA will not market the name, logo, etc.

I have heard similar accounts as well, kind of like when the Cleveland Browns moved, but when Cleveland got a new team it was still the Browns. I think the only way to find out for sure would be to either look up the trademark info, or talk to whomever handles the Vintage Jersey program at CCM/RBK. I have a ton of newspaper articles and special sections from the Courant the season they left. They are still in storage from my recent move, but when I dig down to them I'll se if there is any mention.

[Chadd 916]

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc...ate=2h9uqs.2.45

Word Mark HARTFORD WHALERS Goods and Services (ABANDONED) IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: clothing, namely, bandannas, belts, boxer shorts, caps, cloth bibs, dresses, footwear, gloves, hats, headbands, jackets, jerseys, mittens, nightshirts, pajamas, pants, robes, scarves, shirts, shorts, socks, sun visors, suspenders, sweaters, sweatpants, sweatshirts, swimsuits, swim trunks, T-shirts, ties, underwear, vests, warm-up suits and wristbands Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Serial Number 75774367 Filing Date August 12, 1999 Current Filing Basis 1B Original Filing Basis 1B Owner (APPLICANT) National Hockey League NOT-FOR-PROFIT ASSOCIATION CANADA 1251 Avenue of the Americas New York NEW YORK 100201198 Attorney of Record Mary J. Sotis Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator DEAD Abandonment Date June 21, 2000

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc...ate=2h9uqs.2.15

Word Mark WHALERS Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment in the nature of hockey exhibitions and games. FIRST USE: 19950901. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19950901 Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS Design Search Code 01.15.05 - Smoke; Steam; Vapor

03.19.02 - Orcas; Whales

21.03.23 - Field hockey sticks; Hockey sticks; Street hockey sticks

21.03.25 - Archery arm guards; Athletic supporters; Badminton shuttlecocks (birdies); Bags, punching; Balance beams (gymnastic); Basketball backboards; Basketball hoops; Batons, twirling; Billiard cue sticks; Boxing bags; Catcher's mask; Cues, billiard; Decoys, hunting; Diving boards; Face masks (sports); Face Masks, catcher's; Fins, swim; Goal posts, football; Gym bars (jungle gyms, monkey bars); Gymnastic apparatus; Handgrips, exercise; Hockey pucks; Horse apparatus (gymnastic); Masks, athletic; Masks, catcher's; Masks, fencing; Masks, scuba; Pads, protection (athletic); Parallel bars; Playground equipment; Pool cues; Pucks; Scuba fins or flippers; Scuba masks; Scuba snorkels; Shuttlecocks, badminton birdies; Supporters, athletic; Swim fins; Swim masks; Tees, kicking; Tennis ball throwers (mechanical device); Tetherball game; Trampolines; Twirling batons; Vaulting horses, gymnastic

26.11.20 - Rectangles inside one another

26.11.21 - Rectangles that are completely or partially shaded Serial Number 76548490 Filing Date October 1, 2003 Current Filing Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Published for Opposition July 26, 2005 Registration Number 3006945 Registration Date October 18, 2005 Owner (REGISTRANT) Compuware Sports Corporation CORPORATION MICHIGAN One Campus Martius Detroit MICHIGAN 48226 Attorney of Record Linda E. Markman Type of Mark SERVICE MARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

[Monty22 832]

So no one owns it?

Looks like Chadd dug up some more info- Karmonos is still a ratbastard.

[BigDipper 0]

I'm intrigued now....Under the Freedom of Information Act you should be able to find out more. If you could purchase the rights you would make a mint off merchandising right? hmmmmmmm

[cxo 0]

I'm not sure Whalers merchandise is really in high demand.

[Monty22 832]

I'm not sure Whalers merchandise is really in high demand.

Blasphemy!

[BigDipper 0]

I'm not sure Whalers merchandise is really in high demand.

Blasphemy!

who doesnt love the whale...their like cubs....lovable losers!

[habsfan87 0]

I don't like seeing them too much because it then loses it's "different" appeal. Maybe on special occasions (rivalries, hockey day in canada, outdoor, holidays etc.) and like 4-6 times tops a season

[Monty22 832]

I'm not sure Whalers merchandise is really in high demand.

Blasphemy!

who doesnt love the whale...their like cubs....lovable losers!

They had some great uniforms and one of the best logos going.

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

I'm not sure Whalers merchandise is really in high demand.

Actually - very high demand.

Been looking for an authentic late yr Whalers jersey for a VERY LONG TIME.

I'm not sure Whalers merchandise is really in high demand.

Blasphemy!

who doesnt love the whale...their like cubs....lovable losers!

They had some great uniforms and one of the best logos going.

Blasphemy...you forgot "one of the best goal songs of all time."

[MR.Bobby.Orr 0]

I agree with habsfan, if you see the vintage stuff too much it'll lose it's "vintage" appeal. maybe a few times a year. I don't know if it'll work, but if they do an outdoor game between two original six teams, they should wear the old school sweaters. when they were really sweaters. Plus it would keep the players warm in the cold.

That would be awsome if say Bruins & Rangers in Fenway Park wearing old school sweaters, wearing brown gloves and using woodies. Now thats old time hockey.

[trevor13478 1]

what was their goal song?

[Monty22 832]

what was their goal song?

"Brass Bonanza"

I have it on 45. The Red Sox started playing it at games the last few years. At first I thought I had enjoyed too many beers, but I heard it at another game, so it wasn't a dream....

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

what was their goal song?

"Brass Bonanza"

I have it on 45. The Red Sox started playing it at games the last few years. At first I thought I had enjoyed too many beers, but I heard it at another game, so it wasn't a dream....

Isn't the B-side audio of the huge fight they had with Minnesota in the WHA? I've heard it...Nick Fotiu throwin' hammers...

what was their goal song?

http://www.brassbonanza.com/hcc/whalers-audio/brass-bonanza

It was in the NHL video games whenever you played with the Whalers at home. They and STL (When the Blues Go Marching In) had their own signature goal songs.

[Monty22 832]

Yes, the B-side is the Fight play by play. I'd listen to it, but i don't think I have anything to play it on... I may have it on cassete as well, I'll have to dig that up too.

Brass Bonanza is a great tune. Played it at my wedding reception.

[Chadd 916]

Yes, the B-side is the Fight play by play. I'd listen to it, but i don't think I have anything to play it on... I may have it on cassete as well, I'll have to dig that up too.

Brass Bonanza is a great tune. Played it at my wedding reception.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hartford-Whalers-Playe...1QQcmdZViewItem

[Tailboard Jockey 25]

I'm partial to the San Jose Sharks 3rd jersey.

IMHO, the worst 3rd jersey was Nashville's. Looked like the puke you get after nothing comes up anymore. :D

[cougarscaptain87 12]

detroit should bring back the horizontal stripes prison jerseys

[Monty22 832]

Yes, the B-side is the Fight play by play. I'd listen to it, but i don't think I have anything to play it on... I may have it on cassete as well, I'll have to dig that up too.

Brass Bonanza is a great tune. Played it at my wedding reception.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hartford-Whalers-Playe...1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks Chadd- I already have that same one.

I'm looking for a old school Green and Navy gamers if anyone has a line. I think JR is looking for himself as well.

[DarkStar50 679]

Check 10college on ebay. He was their trainer back in the day. His prices are out of line but he may have a jersey. He has a shop near the rink I skate at on Fridays.

[Monty22 832]

I've seen a few of his auctions- I think he finally dropped the price on his D&R John Cullen gloves from $400 to $200. Thanks for the heads up Darkstar.