Favre Retires...

[Downz 0]

Am I missing this post somewhere. Watch the suicide rate in Wisconsin rise.

[TBLfan 25]

Over/under for when Farve announces he will return. July 25th.

And go.

[willy0314 0]

ahhh crap..... the special on espn right now about him is pretty good. He's a funny dude. LOL "Farve spends each green bay winter fully naked...."ahahaha

[Chadd 916]

Over/under for when Farve announces he will return. July 25th.

And go.

with two weeks left in the preseason.

[TBLfan 25]

After two weeks of the packers without Farve. ;)

[Buzz_LightBeer 969]

back to the 80's dark ages for the packers if he doesnt, i hope we hit the free agent QB market, because Aaron Rodgers couldn't grab his ass with either hand

[TBLfan 25]

You guys can borrow one of ours.

[kovalchuk71 212]

Rodgers did look solid the only time he was in this season.

[gxc999 7]

I'm stunned he retired, I honestly expected him to die on the field. I still half-believe he'll return and play another 12 seasons, ala Gordie Howe.

[tomh7 2]

back to the 80's dark ages for the packers if he doesnt, i hope we hit the free agent QB market, because Aaron Rodgers couldn't grab his ass with either hand

What QB market. I'd be a better QB than any that are available.

I am interested to see how Rodgers handles being "The Guy".

[Spreedizzle 1]

The Gunslingers interception rate will be missed by the other 33 teams in the NFL. ;)

[mik3 1]

I enjoy that his stupid decision in OT was his last NFL pass, it pretty much personified what he was as a player the last 6-7 years.

Also, if you own a pharmacy in Mississippi, you better stock up.

[gxc999 7]

I enjoy that his stupid decision in OT was his last NFL pass, it pretty much personified what he was as a player the last 6-7 years.

Also, if you own a pharmacy in Mississippi, you better stock up.

HAHA, your sardonic comment forced this gloomy idiot to crack a smile! And I agree, he's been making bad decisions for a number of yea..., oh wait, forever.

[Caustic Mick 0]

Just be glad they didn't grab Derek Anderson in preparation. Completely overrated considering the weapons he has on offense. That said, I was a bit perplexed with (my team) the Steelers re-signing Big Ben to an 8-year deal. I think Ben is a solid QB, no doubt, but 8 years is a long time. I would've rather seen a contract of 4 and signing a young QB to come in and ready himself to take the reign at contract end. Rodgers has been under the tutelage of Farve for several years. Once he gets some game experience he may turn out to be a good NFL quarterback.

[stock07 1]

253 straight games...He's a warrior...always left all he had on the field...

[hockeynick1234 0]

sad to hear about it as a sports fan... happy to hear about it as a bear fan!

[Jason Harris 31]

That said, I was a bit perplexed with (my team) the Steelers re-signing Big Ben to an 8-year deal. I think Ben is a solid QB, no doubt, but 8 years is a long time. I would've rather seen a contract of 4 and signing a young QB to come in and ready himself to take the reign at contract end.

Often, longer contracts are attempts to fit within salary cap constraints. Signing bonuses are pro-rated over the length of the contract, so teams offer longer terms to spread out the cap hit, even when they know in advance that the player won't play to the end of the contract. As an example, the Pats signed Donte Stallworth last year to a six-year, $20-something million contract. This week he signed with the Browns.

It's not funny money so much as it's creative accounting.

[Caustic Mick 0]

Very true, but the guaranteed money is a bit high for me. When examining contracts, any schmoe will tell you that the "g-money" is the yard stick. A practical guarantee of $38.7 M is hardly an accounting maneuver.

From profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

FAVRE SITUATION SUDDENLY GETS WEIRD

As it turns out, that dark cloud in Wisconsin could quickly become a storm.

Brett Favre's agent, Bus Cook, has told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that Favre wanted to play another year, but that he felt like the Packers didn't want him.

Uh-oh.

"I know he wants to play one more year," Cook said. "I do not know much conversation there was and I don't think anyone forced him to make that decision. But I don't know that anyone tried to talk him out of it."

Uh-oh.

"I think he wanted to play," Cook said. " I think he's still got it. He knows he's still got it. I think he felt he could play one more year. I don't know if they told him they really wanted him to play. That's just the feeling I got."

Uh-oh.

Asked whether Favre could be talked into returning, Cook said, "I don't know."

Well, maybe the media speculation that the guy who brought Favre to Green Bay, former G.M. Ron Wolf, might be whispering to Bill Parcells about trying to get Favre to Miami is more accurate than we initially thought. Because if Favre wants to play another year and if it's not with the Packers, then maybe it will be elsewhere.

But if Favre doesn't play for the Packers in 2008, either because he's playing for someone else or not playing at all, we think that there could be an enormous backlash against the team. Specifically, G.M. Ted Thompson could find himself in the crosshairs of the fans' criticism.

Never mind the fact that Thompson has done an excellent job; the perception that he ran off Brett Favre could be the quickest ticket out of town for Thompson.

If, in the end, Thompson gets saddled with the brunt of the blame for Favre's departure, the pressure on Thompson to leave, too, will be tremendous. And, as a practical matter, it will put him on an incredibly short leash if the team falters in 2008.

[TBLfan 25]

football contracts are weird too. A player that signs a 6 year, 108 million dollar contract might have 36 million "guaranteed" he'll play 6 years for the team and get 38 million total.

[Xi Retlah iX 0]

Brett Farve has been my fav. athlete(hockey included) for forever. I think its a bit fitting that his last throw was an interception. Obv a TD or Superbowl would be better, but it shows that he never played it safe or changed his playing style or lost that boyish attitude hes had for 17 years.

[Caustic Mick 0]

He's one of my favorites, too, but not so much for his stats (he's thrown a lot of INTs comparatively speaking). I respect him for the way he plays the game- he has a ton of fun and he's out there every week competing... hard.

442 TDs to 288 INTs.

[tomh7 2]

Very true, but the guaranteed money is a bit high for me. When examining contracts, any schmoe will tell you that the "g-money" is the yard stick. A practical guarantee of $38.7 M is hardly an accounting maneuver.

From profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

FAVRE SITUATION SUDDENLY GETS WEIRD

As it turns out, that dark cloud in Wisconsin could quickly become a storm.

Brett Favre's agent, Bus Cook, has told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that Favre wanted to play another year, but that he felt like the Packers didn't want him.

Uh-oh.

"I know he wants to play one more year," Cook said. "I do not know much conversation there was and I don't think anyone forced him to make that decision. But I don't know that anyone tried to talk him out of it."

Uh-oh.

"I think he wanted to play," Cook said. " I think he's still got it. He knows he's still got it. I think he felt he could play one more year. I don't know if they told him they really wanted him to play. That's just the feeling I got."

Uh-oh.

Asked whether Favre could be talked into returning, Cook said, "I don't know."

Well, maybe the media speculation that the guy who brought Favre to Green Bay, former G.M. Ron Wolf, might be whispering to Bill Parcells about trying to get Favre to Miami is more accurate than we initially thought. Because if Favre wants to play another year and if it's not with the Packers, then maybe it will be elsewhere.

But if Favre doesn't play for the Packers in 2008, either because he's playing for someone else or not playing at all, we think that there could be an enormous backlash against the team. Specifically, G.M. Ted Thompson could find himself in the crosshairs of the fans' criticism.

Never mind the fact that Thompson has done an excellent job; the perception that he ran off Brett Favre could be the quickest ticket out of town for Thompson.

If, in the end, Thompson gets saddled with the brunt of the blame for Favre's departure, the pressure on Thompson to leave, too, will be tremendous. And, as a practical matter, it will put him on an incredibly short leash if the team falters in 2008.

All I have to say to this is that there is no way in hell that Farve will play for another team for the next couple years. I believe he is still under contract through 2009 with the Packers so until then the Packers hold his rights.

As for all of the speculation about Thompson not doing enough to convince him to come back, I think if Brett didn't think he was wanted her in Wisconsin, then he really has been dreaming for the past 16 years. The truth of the matter is that now the Packers are mortal at the most critical position in football and that has us Packer fans worried, especially the ones that remember the decade leading up to 1992. Anyone that thinks that Brett was not wanted back this year doesn't know jack about sports or the Packers.

[bunana3 0]

I'll be in Canton in 5 years. Thanks for everything Brett.

[jww83 0]

I think this is the end of an era of the NFL, and possibly one that will be looked back on as one of, if not THE, greatest in the sports history. Favre may be seen as the last remaining player of the generation that included players like Steve Young, Troy Aikman, John Elway, Emmit Smith Jerry Rice etc etc. Just like many of us as hockey fans talk about 'old time hockey', I think 'old time football' just ended with Favre's retirement and a truely new generation has begun.

It's sad as a sports fan in general to see Favre retire, but as someone also said earlier in the thread, Brett Favre was my favourite athlete ever. Hockey is my favourtie sport, but no player comes close to Brett Favre in terms of my favourite athlete.

Just as many perceive that the NHL is not what it used to be, the NFL will not be what it has been in the upcoming years and will face many new challenegs. Sports go through phases just like everything else in life.

I hope, just like I'm sure many other people hope, that he has a change of heart, however I believe this is the true end of an era for the Packers, the NFL, and sports fans in general.

[chef_ducky 0]

It just said on Sportsnet that Farve still wants to come back!