blade pattern consistency

[s4gobabygo 0]

are stick patterns with the same code (like PM9) always the same, regardless of whose name is on the stick? do they just change the name for marketing reasons? i just bought 2 bauer PM9 sticks... one "Malkin" and one "St. Louis"... safe assumption the pattern will be identical, right?

[english15x 3]

Yes, identical to a T. Just name for marketing sake like you said. I sent back a pm9 st louis and got a pm9 malkin back, same thing.

[s4gobabygo 0]

what about sticks with the same name, but from different brands? PM9=Hossa for Bauer... Mission Hossa is different, right?

[JJStripes 1]

Even within the same company they are not always the same. I guess there is more consistency with all the graphite and composite, but woodies can vary significantly.

[cbart 1]

The lie is often different...

[lampliter87 8]

The same number will be the same curve, but curves with the same name will not. (i.e. NBH's p10, which was formerly a "Gagne" but is now a "Backstrom", the curve is the same. The new Gagne is p106 and is completely different although it bears the same name.)

[flyerman 0]

Well, I saw a video on how wood blades are curved at the factory, and at least at Sherwood, they are (were) matched up to a stock pattern blade and bent and profiled BY HAND. In other words, by eyeing it.

So getting consistency when buying "the same" (wood) pattern is not always achieved, sometimes not by a long shot.

For example, I have a Heatley wood blade with a huge banana. I have a Sundin woodie which is close to a lie 6. It's all over the map.

[s4gobabygo 0]

i'd imagine the manufacturing tolerance on the composite sticks has to be very good. the coffey woodies i used to play with were all over the map too.

[psh 25]

I've had good luck with Sherwood wood blades being consistent. However, I have heard that a Sherwood woodie can vary significantly from a Shwerwood composite blade with the same pattern name.

[KBO25 0]

The upside of this is sometimes you can find a unique curve. I saw a batch (3 or 4) Reebok Modano blades (3K i think) that were pretty open, much more so than the standard modano curve. They almost looked like Drurys.

[Rustpot 1]

You can go to your LHS, grab a composite blade and the "same" curve in a wood blade and they can be spot on or way off, depending.

Easton was putting out two blade charts, one for wood one for composite, though I haven't seen the former in a while. Not like you could tell anything from the damned silhouette anyway.

I haven't seen many blades that have the lie screwed up, it's usually just the curve depth and location.

[s4gobabygo 0]

i'm just a noobie, but has anyone considered assembling a database of actual photos of curves? those silhouettes are freaking worthless. even with all the specs available, i still think i get the best idea of whether i'll like a pattern by just looking at it.

EDIT: i have begun planning here

[english15x 3]

i'm just a noobie, but has anyone considered assembling a database of actual photos of curves? those silhouettes are freaking worthless. even with all the specs available, i still think i get the best idea of whether i'll like a pattern by just looking at it.

epuck.com used to have a blade tool and it was good but it doesn't appear to be on their site anymore.

[lampliter87 8]

There are online retailers that have outdated crappy company-produced charts and the like but thats not what he's talking about. He's talking real photos by MSH'ers that will give real information.

[big_bt 0]

I've had two sakic st's with two different curves.

You'd figure they be identical, but one was more of a hook than a toe curve.

[Rustpot 1]

I've had two sakic st's with two different curves.

You'd figure they be identical, but one was more of a hook than a toe curve.

I'd like to know what Synergy ST you had with a toe curve. You may have gotten a mislabeled stick if you ordered 2 Shannys and got 1 and an Yzerman.

[big_bt 0]

I wouldn't say exactly toe, but mid toe rather than mid curve. Both labeled sakic.

[RATM 0]

I've noticed that my Forsberg ABS blades used on my road hockey sticks are quite different, one looks like a Modano and the other like an Yzerman, they were both bought within a month of eachother.

[dnoboy 5]

Anyone know if Bauers P10 is truly a 6 lie? I've read on here that P88 is really a 5.5. Also with Warrior making there sticks available in different lies and everyone saying that they are a full number low, would a lie 6 Warrior really be 7?

Thanks

[Chadd 916]

Anyone know if Bauers P10 is truly a 6 lie? I've read on here that P88 is really a 5.5. Also with Warrior making there sticks available in different lies and everyone saying that they are a full number low, would a lie 6 Warrior really be 7?

Thanks

Yes and most likely yes. With warrior the amount of Rocker on the bottom of the blade makes all of the difference when measuring lie. More rocker means it is farther from being correct, less rocker means it is closer to being correct.

[Rags81 0]

Montreal's wood M95 European curve is very consistent.

Been using them for a long time, and never really had any issues with inconsistency.

On some of their sticks the blade has more quality, but the curve is very consistent.

1/2 mid curve, closed face, comes in 5 and 6 lie.