One95 Help!

[willc7786 0]

Hey guys,

My LHS said they were getting the One95s in by the end of April so I of course decided to go with the LHS instead of online. Last night I got the call and happily went to pick up my skates. When I tried them on before baking they felt great, and the guy goes "Ok, so I'll be right back in about 6minutes". Right there I went "Whoa, wait, it's only supposed to be 3 I think?". So then he goes "Nah that's just for fitment. These are so stiff they need 6 minutes. Trust me, we've been doing this for a long time." So I said I'd rather wait and go home and look this up myself. The guy got really pissy and said if I took the skates home I couldn't bring them back to get baked without paying. As I've said, the LHS's around me aren't really the best. I'm hoping JR or someone on here can give me some word on whether or not this guy is even close to right, and if not I can print it out and show it to the go. Hoping to get this settled tonight so I can get them baked and play tomorrow night with them.

Thanks guys!

[CTHockey 2]

Personally i think 6 minutes is fine and it all depends on a couple things... If my oven box is cold and i throw a pair of skates in there i always add on a minute or two so it gives the box a chance to heat up before the actual baking time begins.. If my box is hot from just having another pair come out then i'd say 3-4 minutes is about right... theres a few factors as you can tell that come into play when baking skates.. The most important part of baking a skate is to make sure you dont walk on the boot.. Just lace it up and sit there and let the boot mold to your foot..I've seen too many people standing up on freshly baked skates, leaning forward, and ultimately hurting there skates instead of helping them!

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

CT - you are encouraged to stand in the 90/95. No flexing, no walking, just standing for a couple of minutes.

WillC - 6 min is fine if you are preheating for a couple of minutes then throw it in for 3. But the fact that he said that needs to bake them longer because they are stiff is a no-no.

[skates 3]

JR's is bang on with both points, as usual. It is very important that you do not heat over the recomended time or walk/flex with a heated (Bauer) skate.

[CTHockey 2]

It might be encouraged but i'm somewhat against that opinion.. After heating the boot is very fragile as far as the glue or adhesives go.. Standing would only cause additional stress on those week points. Im not saying Bauer is wrong or JR is wrong, i just feel safer when the customer stays seated for ten minutes and allows the boot to form to their foot without putting any additional stress on it.

[shifter 0]

does the standing up method apply to the one75 and the rest of the line?

[NATO 0]

This is a great thread, my ONE95s (hopefully) arrive tomorrow and I'll be putting them through the oven, but I don't know whether to stand up or sit down in them, however I know not to forward flex.

When heated, would the footbed of the skate not mould slightly, so if you don't stand and place your weight on it then it won't shape to the base of your foot? I don't know if the footbed does mould however.

[kovalchuk71 212]

This is a great thread, my ONE95s (hopefully) arrive tomorrow and I'll be putting them through the oven, but I don't know whether to stand up or sit down in them, however I know not to forward flex.

When heated, would the footbed of the skate not mould slightly, so if you don't stand and place your weight on it then it won't shape to the base of your foot? I don't know if the footbed does mould however.

Standup in the One95, but do not flex or walk in them. The footbed will not mold. I assume the reason for standing up in them is so the skate can mold to you foot when you have all the weight on your feet (your feet get wider when you stand up)

[skates 3]

CT,

I can apreciate and respect your opinion on how you process thermoforming, I have seen 1st hand consumers walking around and flexing which is not good. I also understand this can be hard to control sometimes in the retail envirement, which lines up exactly to your point of potential boot integrety.

Some have posted on MS that you must heat the ONE95 to take full advantage of the fit and molding capabilities, which is true, but I believe you will also note a lot of players do not even need the skate to be heated based on how it fits out of the box.

[NATO 0]

Thanks for the advice. Just to double check, I'm going to do them one at a time as has been suggested in other threads, but as soon as the skate is ready, take it out of the oven, put it on and lace it up (without pulling too hard on the eyelets), then immediately stand up for say 10-15 minutes?

[NTKT10 0]

Thanks for the advice. Just to double check, I'm going to do them one at a time as has been suggested in other threads, but as soon as the skate is ready, take it out of the oven, put it on and lace it up (without pulling too hard on the eyelets), then immediately stand up for say 10-15 minutes?

CT - you are encouraged to stand in the 90/95. No flexing, no walking, just standing for a couple of minutes.

When you lace up you can tie the skates tightly, but make sure to pull outwards and not upwards.

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

Stand for a couple, sit for the rest.

[jww83 0]

Not a question sepcifically for the 95's but skates in general, how does standing on them after baking affect the runner? Is it possible for twisiting or deformation to take place on the plastic runners? Couldn't think of anything worse than baking brand new skates only to find that when you get on the ice your blades aren't lined up properly.

[rubberduckie 0]

I am sure the runners have been tested to withstand more heat then the oven can give out under proper bake times. The steel could care less at those temperatures. I don't know how the runners would stand up to physical twisting (trying to twist them) under those conditions, but you are just suppose to sit in the bauers for 5-10 minutes, then do some walking. If you are walking flat footed, and with the cool down period I am sure they are fine.

Plastic tends to loose heat rather quickly to the environment (low specific heat capacity), and the runners don't have your body heat to help keep them hot. Additionally the steel would act as a good heat sink as well. All in all, I think the runners would cool quite quickly, comparatively, looking at it in theory. And if you are walking around on the hot runners, I would be more worried about boot deformation then the runners.

[duch 0]

I agree with J.R. You definitely should not walk on the skates when their cooling because it stands to reason the glues and resins are not solidified yet and this might cause a shifting or warping of the components of the skate. Once hardened you'll have a slightly deformed boot which may give you problems in the future. You want to mould the inside of the skate to your foot shape not effect any of the exterior boot walls in any way.

[IceBeans13 0]

Quick question:

Since some of you are suggesting to stand for a bit after baking one at a time, do you have the other skate on as well? Reason I ask is it seems like you can get an awkward stance that will negatively affect fit if you don't have both on.

I'm also curious about the One75 question someone asked above: should you stand in those too/bake one at a time?

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

LOL...yes we encourage you to stand like a flamingo.

No...you can wait a couple of mins for the second boot to get done before you stand.

[Dougie8 0]

Since this is a help thread for One95's I figure this is a suitable place to ask this question.

Has anybody else taken the plastic piece out of the tongue of the One95's because they are too stiff? I'm thinking I'm going to need to do this. They're not too bad without gear on but when I put my shinpads on, it feels like I cannot get in my regular skating stance. Is this because of the stiff tongues? Can I take the plastic out?

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

You can, I don't have my skates with me, but it should be floating. Just cut out the mesh and pop it out.

[wonderenzo 0]

Since this is a help thread for One95's I figure this is a suitable place to ask this question.

Has anybody else taken the plastic piece out of the tongue of the One95's because they are too stiff? I'm thinking I'm going to need to do this. They're not too bad without gear on but when I put my shinpads on, it feels like I cannot get in my regular skating stance. Is this because of the stiff tongues? Can I take the plastic out?

How long have you been wearing them? The stock tongue for me broke in rather fast... much faster than my xxxx.