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New Canucks Captain

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Chadd    916

Chadd
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I thought this was a joke at first, I actually had to find a source.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=251272&amp...s=topStory_main

I dont like this at all, captain should be on the bench with his team.

They should close this loophole. If a player can not perform the functions of the position, they should not be able to designate him as the captain.

By league rule, the Canucks goaltender cannot wear the 'C', but he can be named captain.

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the iceman    132

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Management has and will go out of their way to do whatever they can to make Luongo happy (whether he wanted to be captain or not). They've already put themselves in a bit of a 'situation' with the Sundin thing (not signing him at this time and not signing other so-called big name free agents) and if Roberto wants out then that would be one hell of a legacy to have attached to your resume as the guy that f'ed up the team that bad in one year..

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McCabe#1    0

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I don't understand the problem with this, some of you stated that he is the leader, so why shouldn't he be the captain? Just because he can't wear the 'C', doesn't mean he shouldn't be named captain. If the guys follow him, and he is the 'real' leader of the team, then he should be made captain.

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Chanimal    0

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I am a bit lost about this Luongo is mad because we went after Sundin theory. What do you think matters to him more? Winning? Or just being the highest paid guy on the team? Yes, he is a great goalie, probably the best, but as we saw last season, or the one before, you have to score goals in order to win. He was the best player when he was in Florida, and what did that get him? nada.... I think if I were him, I'd be pissed and want to leave if I don't see management doing anything to make this a better and winning team instead of hanging me out to dry each night, expecting me to get a shutout so that Taylor "the giraffe" Pyatt's goal can win us an 1-0 game.

I think this move is to symbolicly lock him up before really throwing him the money to lock him up for good. And if we can't get him to ink an extension sooner rather than later, i.e., before the end of this season, we'd seriously have to think about keeping Schneider as the future No.1. I think this also make is pretty clear that Bieksa is on the block. Mitchell got the A instead of Bieksa. And we all know coach V and Mitchell don't see eye-to-eye.....

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Chadd    916

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I don't understand the problem with this, some of you stated that he is the leader, so why shouldn't he be the captain? Just because he can't wear the 'C', doesn't mean he shouldn't be named captain. If the guys follow him, and he is the 'real' leader of the team, then he should be made captain.

Just because he's a leader doesn't mean he has to be named captain. Plenty of guys lead without the C. The fact that no goalie has been named captain in 60 years should also tell you that there is something wrong here. The captain and alternates are the only ones permitted to have a discussion with the refs, that is the primary on-ice role of a captain, to interface with the officials. By rule Luongo cannot do this.

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McCabe#1    0

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Sure players lead without the C, but if you have one guy that is definitely the leader of your team, why not make him the captain? The Alternates can talk to the Ref's, but the captain should be the team leader. If that is Luongo for the Canucks, then he should be the captain. Who cares what has been done the last 60 years. If your goalie is the team leader, name him the captain. If the captain is all about talking to the ref, then name the players with the best speaking skills, or the player that gets along with the refs the best. No matter what the position is, the captain should be the leader of your team.

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Chadd    916

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Sure players lead without the C, but if you have one guy that is definitely the leader of your team, why not make him the captain? The Alternates can talk to the Ref's, but the captain should be the team leader. If that is Luongo for the Canucks, then he should be the captain. Who cares what has been done the last 60 years. If your goalie is the team leader, name him the captain. If the captain is all about talking to the ref, then name the players with the best speaking skills, or the player that gets along with the refs the best. No matter what the position is, the captain should be the leader of your team.

Again, the point of naming a captain is to confer with the officials. Having the C has nothing to do with leadership. The players know who the leaders are without being told.

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McCabe#1    0

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The point of naming is to confer with officals??? Really? Then why is it always the leaders of the teams that are named captain? Why don't you they just rotate guys each year, each game if all it means is talking to the offical? Why do people make such a big deal about the naming of a captain? I would have a feeling Mark Messier, Scott Stevens, Jerome Inginla, etc would tell you it is more then just talking to the officils.

I agree that that is there on ice duty, but I think the role of captain stands for a whole lot more then just primary person to talk to the officials.

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Chadd    916

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I agree that that is there on ice duty, but I think the role of captain stands for a whole lot more then just primary person to talk to the officials.

You keep saying "I think...", just because you want something to be reality doesn't make it so. The reality is Luongo cannot fulfill the on-ice duties of a captain and those are the only duties specified by the NHL.

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Tailboard Jockey    25

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Rule 14 Captain of Team

a. One Captain shall be appointed by each Team, and he alone shall have the privilege of discussing with the Referee any questions relating to interpretation of rules which may arise during the progress of a game. He shall wear the letter "C", approximately three inches (3") in height and in contrasting color, in a conspicuous position on the front of his sweater.

In addition, if the permanent Captain is not on the ice, Alternate Captains (not more than two) shall be accorded the privileges of the Captain. Alternate Captains shall wear the letter "A" approximately three inches (3") in height and in contrasting color, in a conspicuous position on the front of their sweaters.

(NOTE) Only when the captain is not in uniform, the Coach shall have the right to designate three Alternate Captains. This must be done prior to the start of the game.

b. The Referee and Official Scorer shall be advised prior to the start of each game, the name of the Captain and the Alternate Captains of both Teams.

c. Only the Captain, when invited to do so by the Referee, shall have the privilege of discussing any point relating to the interpretation of rules. Any Captain or player who comes off the bench and makes any protest or intervention with the Officials for any purpose shall be assessed a minor penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct under Rule 41B - Abuse of Officials. Should this protest continue, he may be assessed a misconduct penalty, and if it further continues, a game misconduct penalty shall be warranted.

A complaint about a penalty is NOT a matter "relating to the interpretation of the rules" and a minor penalty shall be imposed against any Captain or other player making such a complaint.

d. No playing Coach or playing Manager or goalkeeper shall be permitted to act as Captain or Alternate Captain.

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JR Boucicaut    3804

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The point of naming is to confer with officals??? Really? Then why is it always the leaders of the teams that are named captain? Why don't you they just rotate guys each year, each game if all it means is talking to the offical? Why do people make such a big deal about the naming of a captain? I would have a feeling Mark Messier, Scott Stevens, Jerome Inginla, etc would tell you it is more then just talking to the officils.

I agree that that is there on ice duty, but I think the role of captain stands for a whole lot more then just primary person to talk to the officials.

Jaromir Jagr had the C on his jersey in NY. He conferred with officials. But he was NOT the leader of the team.

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Rustpot    1

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Well, according to the rulebook posted by tailboard.... if Luongo is dressed they can only have 2 A's on the team. But then Luongo can't be put on the scoresheet as captain, so there would be a spot open to write in another A.... but why not just make one of the other guys a C since they'll be permanently the 3 guys fulfilling the role? If Luongo doesn't get to wear the letter, talk to refs, or appear on the scoresheet as captain, then is he a captain at all? No.

Oh, that's right, GOALIES AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE CAPTAINS in the first place. Call him the leader and true captain all you want, but don't be silly and give 3 As and no C all season just to blow some air up his skirt.

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team50    20

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Sorry, in error I just assumed it was the same story I had already read on TSN.ca. What about playing coaches or managers (not that I think we'll see that in the NHL).

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Chadd    916

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Sorry, in error I just assumed it was the same story I had already read on TSN.ca. What about playing coaches or managers (not that I think we'll see that in the NHL).

I'm guessing you mean why couldn't they as the rule was posted above. My guess would be to prevent the referee from having to deal with a coach who happens to be a player. The captains job is to relay the information from the ref to the coach, allowing the coach to wear the C would force the ref to talk to the coach.

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