CCHA Hockey team Budget

[dsjunior1388 81]

I am working on a rather large group project at Central Michigan University. My professor, a huge hockey fan, is having us write an anthology on whether a CCHA team would be viable here. Does anyone know where I can find a full budget breakdown for a CCHA or similar program, incuding travel costs, equipment costs, rink maintenance, etc.? This would be a tremendous help.

[prenny207 1]

I'm not sure if this will be public knowledge, but someone may have some insight on expenses and costs.

Here would be a recommendation though. Bowling Green (who would be a similar size school) is looking to drop their hockey program from what i've heard due to the extreme costs. If you could get their expenses, that would be a perfect example. They do not have the large Brand Sponsors like a UofM or MSU, but are CCHA. I think this would work perfectly for what your Prof is looking for.

Good Luck.

[metalwinger13 1]

i heard recently.. actually read.. that it costs atleast 1 million to run a D1 hockey team.. could be wrong.. heres the article i found it in and might be able to help ya

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/2508...tough-task.html

would be neat to see central with a team since they have ferris about a hour or so away, plus state and all the other CCHA teams close.. good luck with the group project

[in da crease 0]

I don't know if you will find a breakdown publicly available. But I can tell you, one CCHA team's budget in 2003 was 1.2m. I'm sure it's higher now. It would be worth contacting some state universities. Those figures should be public at state schools. Things to consider...

- Ice cost for practice, games, visiting teams practices, etc, assuming you rent an existing facility. Building would require 20-60m.

- Game travel cost for 20 players, coaches, trainers, equip managers. Some would need to fly (Omaha and Alaska for sure)

- recruiting costs - travel

- Salaries - Coach, 2 assistants, trainer, equipment manager, dir. of hockey ops, possible marketing.

- 18-22 scholarships

- Marketing

- Equipment

- Title IX expenses

BGSU decided not to drop hockey.

Also, you have to consider that you will need to operate as an independant for a period of time. The CCHA is no going to open their arms and let another school in "just because". With 12 teams in that conference, they can't just add a 13th. Operating as an independant will increase your travel costs.

[jrhky36 1]

wanye state dropped their program last year because of expenses. i think they paid around 500k for their mens program. as stated try contacting the alth. dept at some hockey school.

[epstud74 24]

Try the U of Minnesota for a team budget study. Not very many teams probably could match their budget and revenue dollars. North Dakota or Michigan perhaps..maybe Wisconsin.

[Gummer12 134]

Those schools' budgets are going to be a far cry from what CMU is going to be able to produce, and won't help with his argument to bring a team to CMU. Ferris, Lake State, or maybe even Western, yeah, I know, Western would be better sized schools for comparison...actually I know people at Western's Hockey org...Give Dion a call, you can find his info on their site. He's their head EQ guy, and can give you a great perspective of at least the EQ and traveling side of the budget. Don't forget Medical costs as well, with Athletic Trainer, and supplies and medicines. My 2 cents, CMU would probably be best looking at D2 or D3, and get in with Hope, Cornerstone, and the like. Do they have a Club team? If not, that might not be a bad way to start too, most if not all schools in MI have club teams in the ACHA. I know UM, MSU, WMU do for sure.

[metalwinger13 1]

Or maybe even get ahold of ferris since hockey is their only D1 sport

[dsjunior1388 81]

Those schools' budgets are going to be a far cry from what CMU is going to be able to produce, and won't help with his argument to bring a team to CMU. Ferris, Lake State, or maybe even Western, yeah, I know, Western would be better sized schools for comparison...actually I know people at Western's Hockey org...Give Dion a call, you can find his info on their site. He's their head EQ guy, and can give you a great perspective of at least the EQ and traveling side of the budget. Don't forget Medical costs as well, with Athletic Trainer, and supplies and medicines. My 2 cents, CMU would probably be best looking at D2 or D3, and get in with Hope, Cornerstone, and the like. Do they have a Club team? If not, that might not be a bad way to start too, most if not all schools in MI have club teams in the ACHA. I know UM, MSU, WMU do for sure.

yes they have a club team in the ACHA.

Let me remind you guys this is not a proposal to the school for a hockey team, it is an assignment for an English class, so discussing D2 or D3 is not relevant enough to the topic, which is specifically asking if CMU can support a Div. 1 team.

[Gummer12 134]

Would there be Tribal support?

[jrhky36 1]

what about support from a corparte sponsor. who has the shoe and jersy contract with cmu? they could possible provide support to the hockey program. ie addias (ccm, rbk) at u of m or nike (bauer) at state.

[B19Kress 0]

I know the Football team is New Balance, not sure on Basketball though...

I don't believe New Balance is with any of the hockey companies?

what about support from a corparte sponsor. who has the shoe and jersy contract with cmu? they could possible provide support to the hockey program. ie addias (ccm, rbk) at u of m or nike (bauer) at state.

[interpathway 9]

New Balance is with Warrior IIRC.

[Gummer12 134]

I know the Football team is New Balance, not sure on Basketball though...

I don't believe New Balance is with any of the hockey companies?

what about support from a corparte sponsor. who has the shoe and jersy contract with cmu? they could possible provide support to the hockey program. ie addias (ccm, rbk) at u ofm or nike (bauer) at state.

Warrior

[jrhky36 1]

I know the Football team is New Balance, not sure on Basketball though...

I don't believe New Balance is with any of the hockey companies?

what about support from a corparte sponsor. who has the shoe and jersy contract with cmu? they could possible provide support to the hockey program. ie addias (ccm, rbk) at u of m or nike (bauer) at state.

new balance owns warrior

[irishdman12 0]

This article might be a little helpful to you. It gives the budgets of a few D-1 programs.

Bemidji State article

Bemidji State: $359,238

Miami of Ohio: $327,723

Boston University: $310,630

Vermont: $254,162

[in da crease 0]

This article might be a little helpful to you. It gives the budgets of a few D-1 programs.

Bemidji State article

Bemidji State: $359,238

Miami of Ohio: $327,723

Boston University: $310,630

Vermont: $254,162

BU's hockey budget is 310K? Will that even cover Parker's salary?

[interpathway 9]

Hell no, haha. Something seems really off with those numbers...Considering alone that most of BUs players are on scholarship...Quick estimate...$25,000 a year times 20 players =$500,000....

[B19Kress 0]

Hell no, haha. Something seems really off with those numbers...Considering alone that most of BUs players are on scholarship...Quick estimate...$25,000 a year times 20 players =$500,000....

Yea like another "0" at the end

And I stand corrected on the New Balance / Warrior thing

[BackinAction 0]

Check out this site: http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstList.aspx

This where the article got the info. You can search any institution and pull up the revenue and expenses for each sport.

[shooter27 116]

Those numbers clearly don't take into account scholarship costs. They also probably don't take into account coaching and other salaries. If I had to guess it would probably be the equipment and travel expenses, maybe a couple othe miscellaneous expenses.

[BackinAction 0]

Agreed. Not sure what the factors are, but it revolves around Title IX which addresses the disparity in spending between women's and men's sports from a discrimination standpoint.

[dsjunior1388 81]

Hell no, haha. Something seems really off with those numbers...Considering alone that most of BUs players are on scholarship...Quick estimate...$25,000 a year times 20 players =$500,000....

Yea like another "0" at the end

And I stand corrected on the New Balance / Warrior thing

There is a rumor we are switching from New Balance to Adidas or Nike

[jrhky36 1]

This article might be a little helpful to you. It gives the budgets of a few D-1 programs.Bemidji State article

Bemidji State: $359,238 Miami of Ohio: $327,723 Boston University: $310,630 Vermont: $254,162

mens or womens?

[irishdman12 0]

it's allegedly men's. as people have pointed out, i didn't really stop to think if the numbers made sense before i posted. the article says they are from Equality in Athletics filings that each team is required to make. My guess would be that maybe it's a number that omits scholly and coach salary numbers...