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Pros using 'flat' blades

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Have you heard of any pros using really flat rockers or combos? I am talking about either 13, 14, or even 15 flat, or 15-9, 13 - 7 type combos?

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Must mean skate blades, unless all this time there's been a stick-blade rocker measurement system and I'm the only dumbass who didn't figure it out.

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Skate blade or stick blade? If it is stick, check out Kovalev and Perron.

He's talking about skate blades, and those guys don't have what I would call a flat rocker on their blades.

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In one of the Blademaster ads in The Hockey News the Phoenix equimpent manager was saying that Olli Jokinen uses a 13 foot radius. I've heard somewhere that Forsberg uses 13 foot as well.

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According to this site

""Skate sharpening tends to go toward a more european

style of 5/8 - 1 inch hollow and 13 – 19 ft radius

rocker which gives reduced friction and more

effective skating""

ProSharp

Since European skaters are known for their shifty skating, the idea that a longer rocker is not good for agility would be argued by this site. Not sure I buy it, but what do I know LOL

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Skate blade or stick blade? If it is stick, check out Kovalev and Perron.

He's talking about skate blades, and those guys don't have what I would call a flat rocker on their blades.

Whoa you're right. When I wrote that I thought he was looking for players that had a ton of rocker on their sticks. Sorry for the confusion guys.

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According to this site

""Skate sharpening tends to go toward a more european

style of 5/8 - 1 inch hollow and 13 – 19 ft radius

rocker which gives reduced friction and more

effective skating""

ProSharp

Since European skaters are known for their shifty skating, the idea that a longer rocker is not good for agility would be argued by this site. Not sure I buy it, but what do I know LOL

there're 2 distinct issues being mixed up: hollow has less to do with agility, but more with personal preference & skating ability - arguably less hollow would results into more agility (by allowing easier transitions etc) for someone who is strong with their edges (but would obviously affect negatively someone who isn't a strong skater)

radius on the other hand is simply physics - if you have 19' radius there's just no way to be agile - all the turning radiuses would be equally as large.

case to point - on a 14' I can't even do crossovers inside on offence circle - after 2 strides I end up way out... with 9' it's obviously a non issue.

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I don't think there is any mix up. The article was just mentioning hollows along with the radius/rocker they say is a European style of skate sharpening. I added the post as info to the original question about flat rockers.

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In one of the Blademaster ads in The Hockey News the Phoenix equimpent manager was saying that Olli Jokinen uses a 13 foot radius. I've heard somewhere that Forsberg uses 13 foot as well.

Sorry for the confusion, its the damn accent, I should take a class.

When I skate out I have been on 13-7 for some time now. I am trying to find out if somebody has it even higher then that.

Forsberg totally makes sense. some of his older you vids show his push looking almost like a long track speed skater. Massive power.

Perhaps some of the Russians are using the higher blade radius, strides certainly look like that.

Not sure if I would completely agree with that statement. I beleive in using part of the blade, especially toes for turns, weight transfers, etc.

Anyone who has spent some time in goalie skates (30 radius or higher) can probably speak about trying not to lif their blades off the ice completely.

Just a thought. For the record, my goalie skates always had 30 radius and 2 inch hollow.

According to this site

""Skate sharpening tends to go toward a more european

style of 5/8 - 1 inch hollow and 13 – 19 ft radius

rocker which gives reduced friction and more

effective skating""

ProSharp

Since European skaters are known for their shifty skating, the idea that a longer rocker is not good for agility would be argued by this site. Not sure I buy it, but what do I know LOL

there're 2 distinct issues being mixed up: hollow has less to do with agility, but more with personal preference & skating ability - arguably less hollow would results into more agility (by allowing easier transitions etc) for someone who is strong with their edges (but would obviously affect negatively someone who isn't a strong skater)

radius on the other hand is simply physics - if you have 19' radius there's just no way to be agile - all the turning radiuses would be equally as large.

case to point - on a 14' I can't even do crossovers inside on offence circle - after 2 strides I end up way out... with 9' it's obviously a non issue.

Is it safe to say that we have not heard of anybody going higher then 13? Any bandy players out there?

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