Giroux28 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2009 thoughts about this?http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=4358260&top Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoAngleDangler 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2009 Longest thread title ever ^_^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted July 27, 2009 Shortened title.Considering the fact that there will soon be people in the HOF that did things far worse for the game than Rose did, it makes sense. I think his eligibility for the regular vote is nearly up, it may be up to the members committee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giroux28 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2009 aha sorry bout that wasnt payin attention when i made the titletotally agree with chadd on this one...he deserves to be in the HoF more then others in my opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketking 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2009 Its so far overdue that its laughable.Rose, for all his faults, was one of the very best hitters who ever played.He is also a Grade-A moron, but so what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sitzlejd 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2009 I've always thought he should be in, but my hometown probably makes me a little biased. I voted on ESPN earlier and it was 80/20 for reinstatement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsjunior1388 81 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Now that Rose has admitted guilt, in his book a couple years ago, the time is ripe. It amounts to a 20 year ban, which is justified, really. The question now is whether steroid users get into the hall. so far a lot of them are recieiving very few votes, including McGwire, if I remember correctly. As much as I was disgusted by the steroid era, I am still inclined to think guys like McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro and even Bonds deserve to be in the Hall. however if they were caught, it should say so on their plaques, cast in bronze forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giroux28 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Now that Rose has admitted guilt, in his book a couple years ago, the time is ripe. It amounts to a 20 year ban, which is justified, really. The question now is whether steroid users get into the hall. so far a lot of them are recieiving very few votes, including McGwire, if I remember correctly. As much as I was disgusted by the steroid era, I am still inclined to think guys like McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro and even Bonds deserve to be in the Hall. however if they were caught, it should say so on their plaques, cast in bronze forever.i agree with that but i also think that any records that a steroid user holds should have an asterisk next to it saying so in my honest opinion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sitzlejd 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 That's why Pete should be in IMO. He gambled as a manager and that is despicable. But he got all his numbers legitimately and that's something that Bonds, Palmeiro, Clemens, A-Rod, ManRam, McGwire and Sosa can't say, just to name a few. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric42434224 1 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 He should remain banned due to that haircut alone.No, but seriously, Charlie Hustle should be in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vision 0 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 He wouldn't be going in for what he did as a manager but as a player and, as a player, there are precious few that can hold a candle to him. I lived in the philly area when he came to the phillies and met him, granted I was a kid. He was extremely nice to me even though talking to me was taking away from his watching and betting on the horse races.Regardless, it's time to rescind the ban and let him into the HoF. One of the main issues, or so I've heard, is that nobody wants to be the one to overturn the decision of a man that died 8 days after handing down his ban.::m Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Race4LastPlace 31 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Apparently early thoughts on this were false though, and Selig's thoughts on Rose stay the same.ArticleIn Rose's original banishment in which he signed, it stated that his lifetime ban would be reviewed 'annually', so I still really doubt anything comes of this.Even if he was reinstated i have a hard time believing the members would allow him in, at least right away.Rose's fight to become in the HoF to me seems nothing more than a fight for his worth to grow. His autographs would be worth so much more if he became a famer. And Rose has been all about raking in cash from selling his name. I agree his numbers were extraordinary and a fantastic ballplayer, But he seems like a greedy jerk in all other aspects... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 Rose's fight to become in the HoF to me seems nothing more than a fight for his worth to grow. His autographs would be worth so much more if he became a famer. And Rose has been all about raking in cash from selling his name.He has signed so much stuff that his signature is virtually worthless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Race4LastPlace 31 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 Doesn't he set up shop a few blocks from the hall every year for autograph sessions?The guy is living off his signature now, and it still is selling.A radio jockey here had a dinner and chArity auction a few weeks ago. Don't remember what all he had, but do remeber a Carson Palmer signed game jersey, and a rose signed picture. The picture went easily for 3 or 4 times the jersey. They may not be worth as much anymore (at least until/if he gets in) but people are still paying for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sitzlejd 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 In his defense, I don't think it's that terrible for him to sell on his name so much. He can't work in baseball and that's all he knows. Granted, it's his fault that he can't work in baseball...My mom knows him pretty well b/c she works at a horse track in KY where he visits frequently. She's also really good friends with his best friend, a guy he met in the minors. He may sell his name but he's not greedy per se. He bought my mom's friend a car and he let me interview him in college for a project I was doing. We spent about 45 mins on the phone talking baseball and life in general. It actually was pretty funny cuz I was gambling a lot at the time and we were both watching the same NIT tourney game while we were talking... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epstud74 24 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 Pete Rose bled baseball and he was given the name "Charlie Hustle" for a reason. Betting on baseball is nothing compared to juicing and the effect of juicing on the game. Bonds and McGwire made a mockery of the true American game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites